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UAT won't order rings for Cheerleading National Champs


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Not only that, but the school won't let them put the script "A" on the ones they purchase for themselves because it's trademarked. Nice job, douchebags.

http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/article/20110129/NEWS/110129605/1007?Title=Cheerleaders-at-odds-with-UA-over-rings

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This is very upsetting. Most of you know that I cheered at Auburn on the first ever all girls cheerleading squad 2005-2006. That squad also turned out to be the last ever squad. We were supposed to compete, since the co-ed squad doesn't, however, the school wouldn't give us any money, they wouldn't buy us mats to practice on, and they wouldn't hire anyone to choreograph a routine. We even offered to have cheer camps during the summer to help raise money, but the university said no. We ended up not getting to compete, even though we were promised when we tried out that we would compete. Auburn wants the cheerleaders there to cheer at games.

Alabama has always had an excellent cheer squad. I went up to Tuscaloosa for stunt clinics and our squad went up there for summer camps. I think they should definitely get rings! And would love to see some of these people telling them no do some of the things the cheerleaders do in their routines. It takes a lot of hours, a lot of sweat and a lot of bruises/blood to get where they got. I hope they can get this figured out, if not it looks bad and some cheerleaders out of high school might change their mind as to where they go.

Congrats to Bama on the cheerleading National Championship! Hope you get those rings! You deserve it! :cheer: War Eagle!

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I don't understand this one.

Why not buy them rings? It's not a problem monetarily to reward them for their achievements. That amount of change could be found in Mal Moore's couch.

UA needs to step it the fudge up. This is low.

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While I understand the plight of the cheerleaders, you have to look at this from an administration standpoint. The administrators of UAt have been caught with their hands in the proverbial cookie jar so many times, they are afraid to make even a slightly questionable move right now. They simply cannot afford another NCAA infraction.

Just my .02, and sorry for the squad. It does suck to be champions in something, especially as grueling as cheerleading (sister did it for ten years, from 8th grade to college), and not be rewarded for it. :(

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I don't understand this one.

Why not buy them rings? It's not a problem monetarily to reward them for their achievements. That amount of change could be found in Mal Moore's couch.

UA needs to step it the fudge up. This is low.

At least let them buy their own. It floors me that they won't let them purchase their own with the artwork on it.

My dad passed away during the 2000 football season (the day of the Bama/Vandy game, as a matter of fact) and was a HUGE Alabama fan. We wanted to put an Alabama logo on his headstone but all of the ones they had available to order through the company doing the headstones were crappy looking. I wanted the new logo--the one with the elephant head over the "Alabama"--it was brand new at the time. I called and spoke with the licensing department. They told me that they had not yet released that trademark to anyone to be created. The young lady that I spoke with was very sweet and let me talk to the person over the department at the time. They were glad to release the trademark temporarily, under the condition that the mold was destroyed afterwards. I was impressed that they did that and it meant a lot to my family. It shocks me that they give some random 18 year old kid that calls and says "please" more benefits than their own cheerleaders that bust their ass for the school.

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While I understand the plight of the cheerleaders, you have to look at this from an administration standpoint. The administrators of UAt have been caught with their hands in the proverbial cookie jar so many times, they are afraid to make even a slightly questionable move right now. They simply cannot afford another NCAA infraction.

Just my .02, and sorry for the squad. It does suck to be champions in something, especially as grueling as cheerleading (sister did it for ten years, from 8th grade to college), and not be rewarded for it. :(

It's not an NCAA infraction of any sort to purchase NC rings for your cheerleading squad. And it's certainly not one to grant them the right to use the trademarked script "A" if they wish to purchase their own.

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Maybe the administration didn't want to have to buy the rock/paper/scissors champion a ring. Did they buy the bass fishing team rings? Maybe the texting champion wanted a 'ringtone' for a national championship.

Or what about a few years ago when the student from Bama won a national contest of something...in NYC. I can't remember what it was.

I really do think it came down to the dollars & cents of it all. :poke:

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At the risk of hijacking this thread ... maybe the reason the uat AD didn't authorize the rings is becasue cheerleading isn't really a "sport." --ducks--

Before anyone flies off the handle over that statement and tells me that cheerleaders sweat/bleed/suffer injuries/practice long hours/scarifice their free time/etc., understand that that doesn't make it a "sport." Consider that during a sporting event where cheerleaders perform, none of their exploits contribute directly to the scoring of or denying of points to win the game unlike the actions of the sporting participants themselves. It is an activity and -- admittedly a strenuous one.

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Perhaps, but they actually went to a competition and competed directly with other squads and won. I'd say it is pretty much a sport, as much as something like gymnastics or diving is.

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Perhaps, but they actually went to a competition and competed directly with other squads and won. I'd say it is pretty much a sport, as much as something like gymnastics or diving is.

I'll buy that ... sort of. But then is synchronized, choreagraped dance moves & stunts really "cheerleading?" What I mean is that what they do at competitiion events is nothing like what they do at football & basketball games.

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Perhaps, but they actually went to a competition and competed directly with other squads and won. I'd say it is pretty much a sport, as much as something like gymnastics or diving is.

I'll buy that ... sort of. But then is synchronized, choreagraped dance moves & stunts really "cheerleading?" What I mean is that what they do at competitiion events is nothing like what they do at football & basketball games.

Yeah if they had won after doing Rammer Jammer they would already be wearing their rings.

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At the risk of hijacking this thread ... maybe the reason the uat AD didn't authorize the rings is becasue cheerleading isn't really a "sport." --ducks--

Before anyone flies off the handle over that statement and tells me that cheerleaders sweat/bleed/suffer injuries/practice long hours/scarifice their free time/etc., understand that that doesn't make it a "sport." Consider that during a sporting event where cheerleaders perform, none of their exploits contribute directly to the scoring of or denying of points to win the game unlike the actions of the sporting participants themselves. It is an activity and -- admittedly a strenuous one.

That's correct. Cheerleading is not a sport and does not count as on under title nine rules. They should get the rings from UAT and with logos.

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I will admit, sideline cheering at sporting events is not a sport. But competitive cheerleading is as much a sport as gymnastics and diving is. Regardless, the cheerleading squad at Alabama is a university activity, that is financially supported by the university, just like Auburn. I'm pretty sure Alabama even offers scholarship money for their cheerleaders (Auburn does not...or didn't when I cheered). If it's anything like Auburn's cheerleading, they get bags, shoes, warmups, t-shirts, sweatshirts uniforms, pompoms, etc through the university. They are required to make certain grades and have X amount of hours in order to be eligible, heck, we even had to do random drug screening with the athletes! If you're going to treat the squad as an athletic team, then they should get rings just like any other athletic team.

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Perhaps, but they actually went to a competition and competed directly with other squads and won. I'd say it is pretty much a sport, as much as something like gymnastics or diving is.

I'll buy that ... sort of. But then is synchronized, choreagraped dance moves & stunts really "cheerleading?" What I mean is that what they do at competitiion events is nothing like what they do at football & basketball games.

Have you ever been to a cheer competition? They do cheer, they do get the crowd involved, they do stunts, they tumble and they do dance. I think they do all that at ballgames also with the exception of dance maybe. I'm actually okay with it not being considered a sport, but I have heard and read that it could be a part of the 2016 Rio Olympics.

Now, back on topic. UAT should be ashamed, I saw screw the script "A" and get a ring anyway.

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At the risk of hijacking this thread ... maybe the reason the uat AD didn't authorize the rings is becasue cheerleading isn't really a "sport." --ducks--

Before anyone flies off the handle over that statement and tells me that cheerleaders sweat/bleed/suffer injuries/practice long hours/scarifice their free time/etc., understand that that doesn't make it a "sport." Consider that during a sporting event where cheerleaders perform, none of their exploits contribute directly to the scoring of or denying of points to win the game unlike the actions of the sporting participants themselves. It is an activity and -- admittedly a strenuous one.

What they do at these competitions is a lot different from what you see at a game typically. Much more involved athletically and closer to gymnastics than what they do on the sidelines of a football game.

That said, even if the university wanted to be complete tightasses about it, they should at least let them use the script "A" for the rings they purchase themselves.

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I will admit, sideline cheering at sporting events is not a sport. But competitive cheerleading is as much a sport as gymnastics and diving is. Regardless, the cheerleading squad at Alabama is a university activity, that is financially supported by the university, just like Auburn. I'm pretty sure Alabama even offers scholarship money for their cheerleaders (Auburn does not...or didn't when I cheered). If it's anything like Auburn's cheerleading, they get bags, shoes, warmups, t-shirts, sweatshirts uniforms, pompoms, etc through the university. They are required to make certain grades and have X amount of hours in order to be eligible, heck, we even had to do random drug screening with the athletes! If you're going to treat the squad as an athletic team, then they should get rings just like any other athletic team.

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It is hard work!!! And they do deserve it..even if they buy there own they should not be prevented from putting the A on the ring..ofcourse I also think if I was Daniel Moore I would not do a dang thing for bama anymore either(In case you don't remember bama sued him to over the logo thing)

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Not only that, but the school won't let them put the script "A" on the ones they purchase for themselves because it's trademarked.

Why do the Atlanta Braves care???

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