TitanTiger 21,040 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Parents should be solution, not problem, in scummy recruiting By Gregg Doyel CBSSports.com National Columnist College football recruiting is a scummy business. We all know that. But some seedy developments last week showed that it'll only get scummier -- that it has already become scummier -- because the solution has become part of the problem. Parents are the solution, or one possible solution. But they were a problem last week in three recruiting stories that involved -- as these things always seem to involve -- schools from the SEC... ...But it's hard to ignore this latest development in recruiting, the helicopter parents -- they hover, get it? -- who decide their kid ought to pick the parents' favorite school. If the kid wants to go there, all the better. Then again, who cares? Mom wants it, or Dad wants it, and they brought that kid into this world. If he doesn't pick the right school they can take him out. That must be what Brent Calloway was thinking when he signed with his dad's top choice, Alabama, over his own preference, Auburn. Calloway went with his dad's choice despite the fact that Alabama wanted him to play defense, and Calloway sees himself as Auburn saw him -- as a tailback. Calloway had other reasons to want Auburn. His adopted brother attends a school 20 minutes from Auburn, and he'd made friends with several Auburn recruits. Calloway was so set against Alabama that, when he picked Auburn last month, he signaled his choice by grabbing an Auburn hat instead of hats from two other schools -- neither of them Alabama. Alabama wasn't even a finalist, and then it was his choice on signing day. Why? Because his father -- sorry, his adopted father, a music minister who has a history of adopting future college athletes -- wanted him to honor a commitment he had made to Alabama more than a year earlier. His father went public with that, telling newspaper reporters that he expected his son to fulfill his commitment to Alabama. Ultimately Calloway did just that. He picked Alabama, because that's what his God-fearing father expected from him. Shame on the father, but shame somewhat on the son as well. It's your life, Brent Calloway. Try to live it that way... Click to read the rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bama My Heart 5 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Parents should be solution, not problem, in scummy recruiting By Gregg Doyel CBSSports.com National Columnist College football recruiting is a scummy business. We all know that. But some seedy developments last week showed that it'll only get scummier -- that it has already become scummier -- because the solution has become part of the problem. Parents are the solution, or one possible solution. But they were a problem last week in three recruiting stories that involved -- as these things always seem to involve -- schools from the SEC... ...But it's hard to ignore this latest development in recruiting, the helicopter parents -- they hover, get it? -- who decide their kid ought to pick the parents' favorite school. If the kid wants to go there, all the better. Then again, who cares? Mom wants it, or Dad wants it, and they brought that kid into this world. If he doesn't pick the right school they can take him out. That must be what Brent Calloway was thinking when he signed with his dad's top choice, Alabama, over his own preference, Auburn. Calloway went with his dad's choice despite the fact that Alabama wanted him to play defense, and Calloway sees himself as Auburn saw him -- as a tailback. Calloway had other reasons to want Auburn. His adopted brother attends a school 20 minutes from Auburn, and he'd made friends with several Auburn recruits. Calloway was so set against Alabama that, when he picked Auburn last month, he signaled his choice by grabbing an Auburn hat instead of hats from two other schools -- neither of them Alabama. Alabama wasn't even a finalist, and then it was his choice on signing day. Why? Because his father -- sorry, his adopted father, a music minister who has a history of adopting future college athletes -- wanted him to honor a commitment he had made to Alabama more than a year earlier. His father went public with that, telling newspaper reporters that he expected his son to fulfill his commitment to Alabama. Ultimately Calloway did just that. He picked Alabama, because that's what his God-fearing father expected from him. Shame on the father, but shame somewhat on the son as well. It's your life, Brent Calloway. Try to live it that way... Click to read the rest I'm sorry but some no reporter or anyone else is going to tell me how to raise my child, or how I direct them for future life. I believe that an adopted parent has the same legal responsibilites as a birth parent to their child. I think when you adopt a child, he/she is your child, and you shouldn't put the adopted in front of it. If the player is under 21 years of age the parent has to sign the LOI along with the player, so don't tell me that if I have to sign my name to something, that I don't have a voice in the decision. I can't speak for other fans, but I have never abused a player that switches from Bama to any other school, but I just don't believe that we should talk about the parents making decisions for these guys. A lot of kids at 17 years of age are very immature and shouldn't be making this decision. Remember if they commit a crime, it's youthful offender and they get off, so you can't be an adult at 17 and also a child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,781 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Peaches is a foster parent, which means, adoptive or not, he's collecting a check from the State of Alabama for each of his "kids". He's fostered at least three that ended up on athletic scholarships to various colleges. He's doing nothing but cruising playgrounds for likely 9th and 10th grade prospects, picking the best player and hoping one of them hits it big so he can be their agent and collect some really big bucks in a few years. In the meantime, the checks every month ain't bad. Did you even read his reason for sequestering Brent until the kid caved in and signed with UAT? His publicly stated reason was because he thought Brent's best shot at the NFL was at linebacker, not runningback. Nothing mattered to Peaches except increasing Brent's likelihood of making to The League. The Brent Calloway case is a PERFECT EXAMPLE of why Doyle wrote that article. Peaches a sleezebag and a sorry excuse for a foster parent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarTiger 4,011 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Doyel is absolutely spot on with this. Where are thayer and schad and all those other hacks that felt the need to smear the newton family with zero proof? Wonder why they haven't chosen to jump on the stories here with Calloway and Kouandjio's family. Where are the accusations for these families? This is a classic double standard. However, there's a fine line in assisting your child in making a decision and forcing him to go where he doesn't want to go. The latter of which has happened in both of these cases. The family voted on where they wanted the kid to go, without giving a damn where the child wanted to be. Sorry but that's absolutely horrible parenting and a terrible example to be for a young man. So, where are the stories about the payoff's these families received for getting their kid to sign with the school THEY (not the player)wanted. Certainly they aren't waiting for proof. The Newton case proved they didn't need any proof to put a story in print. Sad thing is, there is likely major shenanigans going on with these two situations, yet nothing will likely ever get mentioned about it. These two situations look WAY more fishy to the casual observer than anything they've been reporting about the Newton family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenEyedGirl 6 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I don't see what this reporter said as telling anyone how to raise their children but parents should be there to guild and help but not demand where their precious child should go to school. At 17 kids should be allowed so make some decisions for themselves with guidance not pressure from the parents. It's not like this "kid" was trying to decide between Alabama and a school in a violence ridden city of Mexico. I hope things turn out well for this kid and CyKo also, but I also hope we stomp the crap out of UAT each year they are on the team (an many more also.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoic-one 1,586 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I'm sorry but some no reporter or anyone else is going to tell me how to raise my child, or how I direct them for future life. I believe that an adopted parent has the same legal responsibilites as a birth parent to their child. I think when you adopt a child, he/she is your child, and you shouldn't put the adopted in front of it. If the player is under 21 years of age the parent has to sign the LOI along with the player, so don't tell me that if I have to sign my name to something, that I don't have a voice in the decision. I can't speak for other fans, but I have never abused a player that switches from Bama to any other school, but I just don't believe that we should talk about the parents making decisions for these guys. A lot of kids at 17 years of age are very immature and shouldn't be making this decision. Remember if they commit a crime, it's youthful offender and they get off, so you can't be an adult at 17 and also a child. That's a really huge swing and miss at what the point of the article was, and the relevant facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bama My Heart 5 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Peaches is a foster parent, which means, adoptive or not, he's collecting a check from the State of Alabama for each of his "kids". He's fostered at least three that ended up on athletic scholarships to various colleges. He's doing nothing but cruising playgrounds for likely 9th and 10th grade prospects, picking the best player and hoping one of them hits it big so he can be their agent and collect some really big bucks in a few years. In the meantime, the checks every month ain't bad. Did you even read his reason for sequestering Brent until the kid caved in and signed with UAT? His publicly stated reason was because he thought Brent's best shot at the NFL was at linebacker, not runningback. Nothing mattered to Peaches except increasing Brent's likelihood of making to The League. The Brent Calloway case is a PERFECT EXAMPLE of why Doyle wrote that article. Peaches a sleezebag and a sorry excuse for a foster parent. I'm just asking because I do not know. Is he a foster parent or is Brent his adopted child? There is a big difference, and with one he would be receiving no money from the state to take care of the child. Cecil Newton chose for Cam. Cam wanted to go to Mississippi State, said his heart was in Florida, but he seemed quite happy at Auburn. To be quite honest, I don't care where these kids went. I think all the production that was made over their signing was just a bit much. I honestly believe that CK has an ego problem and won't be all that we hope, and I wish he had chosen to go somewhere else out side of the SEC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 21,040 Posted February 8, 2011 Author Share Posted February 8, 2011 Cam indicated he wanted to go to MSU because of his prior relationship with Mullen. He never committed to them. He was never prevented from talking to them. He wasn't forced to cancel a planned trip to Starkville and instead visit Auburn. He didn't have his cell phone turned off when it was discovered he was communicating with MSU players while in Auburn. I could go on. But it's just intellectually lazy to equate the two situations. Brent was cut off from Auburn people and forced to visit Tuscaloosa instead of a planned unofficial to Auburn (even though he was an Auburn commit). None of these happened with Cam. I find it sad that two of your highest rated commits are ones you wouldn't have if the parents hadn't stepped in, one of which practically forced his kid to switch. Cyrus I can understand a little better. His parents are immigrants and don't always know who to trust or how football works and such. They liked the idea of the brothers being together to look after each other and are more familiar with the Alabama coaching staff. None of those considerations were in play for Brent. You just had a father hotbox his kid until he did what Daddy wanted. Nice parenting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoic-one 1,586 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I'm just asking because I do not know. Is he a foster parent or is Brent his adopted child? There is a big difference, and with one he would be receiving no money from the state to take care of the child. Cecil Newton chose for Cam. Cam wanted to go to Mississippi State, said his heart was in Florida, but he seemed quite happy at Auburn. To be quite honest, I don't care where these kids went. I think all the production that was made over their signing was just a bit much. I honestly believe that CK has an ego problem and won't be all that we hope, and I wish he had chosen to go somewhere else out side of the SEC. I'm pretty sure that he is a foster parent. As far as the Cam angle, that's apples and oranges (or peaches and something I guess ). Cam wasn't going back to UF either way, and he actually wanted his dad to help him decide. The bolded part of that last sentence is the point of the article. Cam said many times that he considered his fathers opinion very important and consulted him extensively, get the difference? Granted, Cam was older and probably more mature than your run of the mill HS recruit. As for the last part of your statement, well, meh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WarTiger 4,011 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Peaches is a foster parent, which means, adoptive or not, he's collecting a check from the State of Alabama for each of his "kids". He's fostered at least three that ended up on athletic scholarships to various colleges. He's doing nothing but cruising playgrounds for likely 9th and 10th grade prospects, picking the best player and hoping one of them hits it big so he can be their agent and collect some really big bucks in a few years. In the meantime, the checks every month ain't bad. Did you even read his reason for sequestering Brent until the kid caved in and signed with UAT? His publicly stated reason was because he thought Brent's best shot at the NFL was at linebacker, not runningback. Nothing mattered to Peaches except increasing Brent's likelihood of making to The League. The Brent Calloway case is a PERFECT EXAMPLE of why Doyle wrote that article. Peaches a sleezebag and a sorry excuse for a foster parent. I'm just asking because I do not know. Is he a foster parent or is Brent his adopted child? There is a big difference, and with one he would be receiving no money from the state to take care of the child. Cecil Newton chose for Cam. Cam wanted to go to Mississippi State, said his heart was in Florida, but he seemed quite happy at Auburn. To be quite honest, I don't care where these kids went. I think all the production that was made over their signing was just a bit much. I honestly believe that CK has an ego problem and won't be all that we hope, and I wish he had chosen to go somewhere else out side of the SEC. That's not true. Cecil didn't choose anything for Cam. Cam asked for Cecil's guidance in helping him make the decision. NOT decide for him. Cam chose on his own volition to attend Auburn. Cam never committed to MSU only to conveniently change his mind later. Cam was never returning to florida either. Cam was never sequestered up to signing day. Cam never had his cell phone turned off to avoid contact with anybody. Cam was only interested in MSU because Mullen was there. Period. If not for Mullen, I'd seriously doubt MSU would have even been on Cam's Radar. You can't pick and choose erroneous statements that have never been proven and combine them with actual(minor) facts to make up your argument. It doesn't work that way. It would be wise in the future to actually know what you are talking about prior to posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 14,044 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Peaches is a foster parent, which means, adoptive or not, he's collecting a check from the State of Alabama for each of his "kids". He's fostered at least three that ended up on athletic scholarships to various colleges. He's doing nothing but cruising playgrounds for likely 9th and 10th grade prospects, picking the best player and hoping one of them hits it big so he can be their agent and collect some really big bucks in a few years. In the meantime, the checks every month ain't bad. Did you even read his reason for sequestering Brent until the kid caved in and signed with UAT? His publicly stated reason was because he thought Brent's best shot at the NFL was at linebacker, not runningback. Nothing mattered to Peaches except increasing Brent's likelihood of making to The League. The Brent Calloway case is a PERFECT EXAMPLE of why Doyle wrote that article. Peaches a sleezebag and a sorry excuse for a foster parent. I'm just asking because I do not know. Is he a foster parent or is Brent his adopted child? There is a big difference, and with one he would be receiving no money from the state to take care of the child. Cecil Newton chose for Cam. Cam wanted to go to Mississippi State, said his heart was in Florida, but he seemed quite happy at Auburn. To be quite honest, I don't care where these kids went. I think all the production that was made over their signing was just a bit much. I honestly believe that CK has an ego problem and won't be all that we hope, and I wish he had chosen to go somewhere else out side of the SEC. You apparently only know about Cam's recruitment from ESPN-- which means you're in the dark. Cam visited Auburn on his own and left saying "I'm on cloud nine." http://bleacherreport.com/articles/317515-five-star-juco-quarterback-chooses-auburn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,781 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Peaches is Calloway's foster parent. He gets paid to keep Brent, just like he gets/got paid for the other athletes he hand-picked from around North Alabama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDM4AU 337 Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I posted this article on facebook and this is the response I got from a bammer friend: Bama not a finalist for Calloway ? He was committed to them for a year before Troopa offered him god knows what> Was his gaurdian too involved...sure> But for any Aub to advertise an article like this after the Cecil saga is just plain funny> They are appalled that anyone would question Tha Tahd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebdawg 5 Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I don't think Bama did anything wrong in this case but at the same time I bet the NCAA is already asking some questions. Peaches is no longer under the radar now. They tore into Michael Oher and the Tuohy's and that was an actual family that loved each other. Just imagine what red flags this scumbag sets off. Like I say, I think Bama is in the clear but if the NCAA shows up Brent may never play a down in T-town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaredm2012 0 Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 I don't think Bama did anything wrong in this case but at the same time I bet the NCAA is already asking some questions. Peaches is no longer under the radar now. They tore into Michael Oher and the Tuohy's and that was an actual family that loved each other. Just imagine what red flags this scumbag sets off. Like I say, I think Bama is in the clear but if the NCAA shows up Brent may never play a down in T-town. In that case though, they were Ole Miss boosters I believe so the NCAA had reason to get involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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