AUgrad00 7 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Does shows like his not breed this type of behavior? He encourages knucklehead callers to call in. He did not run the guy. He does not have a call screener. He allows anyone on the air. If this guy is not allowed to call in and brag about this how do you know he does this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCWarEagle 0 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Finebaum is scummy, but it isn't his fault, it is the guy's fault. End of story. People are responsible for their own actions in this world and by placing some of the blame on Finebaum it seems that you are making an excuse for the guy. At least by being enough of an idiot to call in, it made catching him even easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duder 243 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 No way Finebaum shares the blame. He encourages stupid callers not stupid acts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyg 2 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 May be the worse take ive seen from AUgrad00. Thats like blaming video games for kids violence when a school shooting happens. Cant blame Finebaum who even though i hate his show and cant listen to it does but its purpose of stirring the pot of the fan bases is what the show is about with decent guest time to time. In no way would Finebaum I would hope promote this and If i was a betting man he will condemn the guy for being a 62 yr old man who made a terrible decision on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermike 3,661 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 No way Finebaum shares the blame. He encourages stupid callers not stupid acts. What he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUgrad00 7 Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 May be the worse take ive seen from AUgrad00. Thats like blaming video games for kids violence when a school shooting happens. Cant blame Finebaum who even though i hate his show and cant listen to it does but its purpose of stirring the pot of the fan bases is what the show is about with decent guest time to time. In no way would Finebaum I would hope promote this and If i was a betting man he will condemn the guy for being a 62 yr old man who made a terrible decision on his own. The point is Slimebaum is the ONLY person in this state that allows a sounding board for this kinda crap. He appeals to the lowest common denominator. He has benefited from this by virutue of the fact the caller called his show. If someone called his show tommorrow and says they defaced the Bear Bryant he would talke the call. DOES THIS NOT ENCOURAGE THIS TYBE OF BEHAVIOR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermike 3,661 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 May be the worse take ive seen from AUgrad00. Thats like blaming video games for kids violence when a school shooting happens. Cant blame Finebaum who even though i hate his show and cant listen to it does but its purpose of stirring the pot of the fan bases is what the show is about with decent guest time to time. In no way would Finebaum I would hope promote this and If i was a betting man he will condemn the guy for being a 62 yr old man who made a terrible decision on his own. The point is Slimebaum is the ONLY person in this state that allows a sounding board for this kinda crap. He appeals to the lowest common denominator. He has benefited from this by virutue of the fact the caller called his show. If someone called his show tommorrow and says they defaced the Bear Bryant he would talke the call. DOES THIS NOT ENCOURAGE THIS TYBE OF BEHAVIOR? If Finebaum benefits because the guy called his show to brag and show his ass big deal. Law enforcement also benefited by the call. They had a strong lead and a recorded confession. If the guy had kept his mouth shut and let nature take it's time killing the trees he would not have been caught, at least not this quickly. Finebaum is not the only sports call in show in the state. WJOX has almost 24 hours of call in shows. There is a sports station in Mobile as well. It's entertainment. It's just a shame stupid butt-hole wacko's like entertainment too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bama My Heart 5 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Does shows like his not breed this type of behavior? He encourages knucklehead callers to call in. He did not run the guy. He does not have a call screener. He allows anyone on the air. If this guy is not allowed to call in and brag about this how do you know he does this? Far be it for me to take up for him, but the day this guy called in saying that the day Coach Bryant died Auburn fans rolled Toomers, Paul went off on him, and told him that he had never heard that and just didn't believe it. I think that if he had believed the guy was telling the truth about what he did, Paul would have gotten more people involved and they would have caught him earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUgrad00 7 Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 Does shows like his not breed this type of behavior? He encourages knucklehead callers to call in. He did not run the guy. He does not have a call screener. He allows anyone on the air. If this guy is not allowed to call in and brag about this how do you know he does this? Far be it for me to take up for him, but the day this guy called in saying that the day Coach Bryant died Auburn fans rolled Toomers, Paul went off on him, and told him that he had never heard that and just didn't believe it. I think that if he had believed the guy was telling the truth about what he did, Paul would have gotten more people involved and they would have caught him earlier. All I am saying is I view him as an enabler. What I am getting as his he has not boundaries. Their is no guidelines for his callers. Why if you call his show do you NOT have a call screener who you have to explain what your call is about to? I mean in regards to your comments, any legit talk show host never allows the call you mention to EVEN get on the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCWarEagle 0 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Finebaum is not the only sounding board for this type of thing, he is just the most visable. Look at the comments of al.com, look at most message boards. Finebaum is definitely a pot-stirrer, but he actually is usually pretty careful to not incite or encourage anything detrimental to Auburn or Alabama. He likes people to talk and be worked-up because it gets him listeners and readers, but he doesn't seem to actually wish any harm on either university. I saw several interviews with him during the Cam Newton saga and I was surprised at how supportive of Auburn he was. Finebaum definitely is no saint and I may even agree that he encourages a somewhat toxic atmosphere around the rivalry, but like I said in my first post, at the end of the day people are responsible for their own actions. This was a 62 year old man that thought carefully about what he was going to do and purposely set out to do something harmful. The fact that he later bragged about it on Finebaum doesn't mean Finebaum made him do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSammyK 171 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 If Finebaum hadn't let the caller talk would Auburn have ever checked the soil? At least now the people in power can attempt to fix the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU alum 2 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Does shows like his not breed this type of behavior? He encourages knucklehead callers to call in. He did not run the guy. He does not have a call screener. He allows anyone on the air. If this guy is not allowed to call in and brag about this how do you know he does this? Far be it for me to take up for him, but the day this guy called in saying that the day Coach Bryant died Auburn fans rolled Toomers, Paul went off on him, and told him that he had never heard that and just didn't believe it. I think that if he had believed the guy was telling the truth about what he did, Paul would have gotten more people involved and they would have caught him earlier. All I am saying is I view him as an enabler. What I am getting as his he has not boundaries. Their is no guidelines for his callers. Why if you call his show do you NOT have a call screener who you have to explain what your call is about to? I mean in regards to your comments, any legit talk show host never allows the call you mention to EVEN get on the air. Paul Finebaum may be an enabler, of sorts, but thank God for that enabler. If this idiot had not called this in to a radio show, chances are he would not have been caught. I don't like PF either, but this is one time he was actually useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoic-one 1,586 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Paul Finebaum may be an enabler, of sorts, but thank God for that enabler. If this idiot had not called this in to a radio show, chances are he would not have been caught. I don't like PF either, but this is one time he was actually useful. to the useful idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUgrad00 7 Posted February 18, 2011 Author Share Posted February 18, 2011 Paul Finebaum may be an enabler, of sorts, but thank God for that enabler. If this idiot had not called this in to a radio show, chances are he would not have been caught. I don't like PF either, but this is one time he was actually useful. to the useful idiot .2011/2/17/2000484/does-tree-poisoning-spell-the-end-for-paul-finebaum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarEagle84 0 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Does shows like his not breed this type of behavior? He encourages knucklehead callers to call in. He did not run the guy. He does not have a call screener. He allows anyone on the air. If this guy is not allowed to call in and brag about this how do you know he does this? Far be it for me to take up for him, but the day this guy called in saying that the day Coach Bryant died Auburn fans rolled Toomers, Paul went off on him, and told him that he had never heard that and just didn't believe it. I think that if he had believed the guy was telling the truth about what he did, Paul would have gotten more people involved and they would have caught him earlier. All I am saying is I view him as an enabler. What I am getting as his he has not boundaries. Their is no guidelines for his callers. Why if you call his show do you NOT have a call screener who you have to explain what your call is about to? I mean in regards to your comments, any legit talk show host never allows the call you mention to EVEN get on the air. And I suppose you're among those that think Rush Limbaugh is to blame for the murderer in Arizona. Idiotic logic. Finebaum may never refer to his call screener on air, but I guarantee he has one. You can't run a show like that without one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumps 3,706 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 We sure do need football season to get here. Many of the topics being discussed now are useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creed 1,770 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 So a guy with a bullhorn and an agenda shouldn't be charged with inciting a riot even though he doesn't participate in the aftermath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumps 3,706 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 So a guy with a bullhorn and an agenda shouldn't be charged with inciting a riot even though he doesn't participate in the aftermath. Do you really think that Finebaum (who I think is a miserable P.O.S.) tried to incite people to destroy things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creed 1,770 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 So a guy with a bullhorn and an agenda shouldn't be charged with inciting a riot even though he doesn't participate in the aftermath. Do you really think that Finebaum (who I think is a miserable P.O.S.) tried to incite people to destroy things? No...but thought I'd throw it out there.... However, he does invite individuals with views that stir up the non-stable listeners to his show. Who knows what kind of ideas those non-stable folks come up with afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mec814 0 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 So a guy with a bullhorn and an agenda shouldn't be charged with inciting a riot even though he doesn't participate in the aftermath. Do you really think that Finebaum (who I think is a miserable P.O.S.) tried to incite people to destroy things? No...but thought I'd throw it out there.... However, he does invite individuals with views that stir up the non-stable listeners to his show. Who knows what kind of ideas those non-stable folks come up with afterwards. You can't blame finebaum without blaming the people who pay for his airtime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarEagle84 0 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 So a guy with a bullhorn and an agenda shouldn't be charged with inciting a riot even though he doesn't participate in the aftermath. Do you really think that Finebaum (who I think is a miserable P.O.S.) tried to incite people to destroy things? No...but thought I'd throw it out there.... However, he does invite individuals with views that stir up the non-stable listeners to his show. Who knows what kind of ideas those non-stable folks come up with afterwards. Giving people a forum in which to verbalize their grievances actually goes a long way in PREVENTING them from acting out in other ways. I've listened to maybe 30 total minutes of Finebaum in my lifetime, and from what little I've heard and what I know about the radio industry, I seriously doubt he's doing anything even close to inciting people to act up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_tiger 5 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 So a guy with a bullhorn and an agenda shouldn't be charged with inciting a riot even though he doesn't participate in the aftermath. Do you really think that Finebaum (who I think is a miserable P.O.S.) tried to incite people to destroy things? No...but thought I'd throw it out there.... However, he does invite individuals with views that stir up the non-stable listeners to his show. Who knows what kind of ideas those non-stable folks come up with afterwards. Giving people a forum in which to verbalize their grievances actually goes a long way in PREVENTING them from acting out in other ways. I've listened to maybe 30 total minutes of Finebaum in my lifetime, and from what little I've heard and what I know about the radio industry, I seriously doubt he's doing anything even close to inciting people to act up. The difference being that callers that misrepresent and/or outright lie about events (Toomers being rolled in 1983 for PB death) without being rebuffed by PF are viewed by some fringe elements as being credible. Yesterday a caller (UAt “fan”) called in and said that some Auburn fan(s) poured acid on the grass outside BDS in a "28-27" configuration. That is an outright lie. We know it. We have seen the pictures. It was seeded in winter rye grass, not acid. However PF never disputed the caller's statement, so I'm sure there are people out in his audience that actually believe that the grass was vandalized by some Auburn fans using acid. PF allows crazies, on both sides, to vomit on the airwaves. Not only does he allow this Jerry Springer-type atmosphere; he, in my opinion, foments the Alabama-Auburn rivalry for the benefit of his radio program's ratings. What we have seen is the result, in my opinion, of months of PF lathering up the Alabama fan base over Auburn's successful season and the Cam Netwon saga. Just my opinion. WDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarTiger 4,011 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 If anything, him calling in to that show hurts his defense. He basically proved by calling in that he was completely in control of his actions and knew exactly what he was doing. When Finebaum questioned him about the legality of it, he flippantly responded: "do you think I care" This call should be enough on its own to destroy any potential insanity defense he tries to use during his trial. As far as screening calls go for a radio talk show, it really helps very little. If a caller wants to put something out there, they are gonna say whatever they need to do get passed the screener to get on the air. This is likely what he did and once on the air, he spouts off whatever he intended to say to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarEagle84 0 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 So a guy with a bullhorn and an agenda shouldn't be charged with inciting a riot even though he doesn't participate in the aftermath. Do you really think that Finebaum (who I think is a miserable P.O.S.) tried to incite people to destroy things? No...but thought I'd throw it out there.... However, he does invite individuals with views that stir up the non-stable listeners to his show. Who knows what kind of ideas those non-stable folks come up with afterwards. Giving people a forum in which to verbalize their grievances actually goes a long way in PREVENTING them from acting out in other ways. I've listened to maybe 30 total minutes of Finebaum in my lifetime, and from what little I've heard and what I know about the radio industry, I seriously doubt he's doing anything even close to inciting people to act up. The difference being that callers that misrepresent and/or outright lie about events (Toomers being rolled in 1983 for PB death) without being rebuffed by PF are viewed by some fringe elements as being credible. Yesterday a caller (UAt “fan”) called in and said that some Auburn fan(s) poured acid on the grass outside BDS in a "28-27" configuration. That is an outright lie. We know it. We have seen the pictures. It was seeded in winter rye grass, not acid. However PF never disputed the caller's statement, so I'm sure there are people out in his audience that actually believe that the grass was vandalized by some Auburn fans using acid. PF allows crazies, on both sides, to vomit on the airwaves. Not only does he allow this Jerry Springer-type atmosphere; he, in my opinion, foments the Alabama-Auburn rivalry for the benefit of his radio program's ratings. What we have seen is the result, in my opinion, of months of PF lathering up the Alabama fan base over Auburn's successful season and the Cam Netwon saga. Just my opinion. WDE Like I said, I don't listen to Finebaum, so I can't speak to the general tenor of the show, but I did hear the replay of "Al in Dadeville", and PF most definitely did rebut the rolling Toomer's at Bear's death claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_tiger 5 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 So a guy with a bullhorn and an agenda shouldn't be charged with inciting a riot even though he doesn't participate in the aftermath. Do you really think that Finebaum (who I think is a miserable P.O.S.) tried to incite people to destroy things? No...but thought I'd throw it out there.... However, he does invite individuals with views that stir up the non-stable listeners to his show. Who knows what kind of ideas those non-stable folks come up with afterwards. Giving people a forum in which to verbalize their grievances actually goes a long way in PREVENTING them from acting out in other ways. I've listened to maybe 30 total minutes of Finebaum in my lifetime, and from what little I've heard and what I know about the radio industry, I seriously doubt he's doing anything even close to inciting people to act up. The difference being that callers that misrepresent and/or outright lie about events (Toomers being rolled in 1983 for PB death) without being rebuffed by PF are viewed by some fringe elements as being credible. Yesterday a caller (UAt “fan”) called in and said that some Auburn fan(s) poured acid on the grass outside BDS in a "28-27" configuration. That is an outright lie. We know it. We have seen the pictures. It was seeded in winter rye grass, not acid. However PF never disputed the caller's statement, so I'm sure there are people out in his audience that actually believe that the grass was vandalized by some Auburn fans using acid. PF allows crazies, on both sides, to vomit on the airwaves. Not only does he allow this Jerry Springer-type atmosphere; he, in my opinion, foments the Alabama-Auburn rivalry for the benefit of his radio program's ratings. What we have seen is the result, in my opinion, of months of PF lathering up the Alabama fan base over Auburn's successful season and the Cam Netwon saga. Just my opinion. WDE Like I said, I don't listen to Finebaum, so I can't speak to the general tenor of the show, but I did hear the replay of "Al in Dadeville", and PF most definitely did rebut the rolling Toomer's at Bear's death claim. I would say it was more of a "coy-faux incredulous" response by PF... certainly not a "it did not happen, period'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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