ShocksMyBrain 9,519 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 So I've been hearing and reading rumors that an episode of Real Sports is supposed to come out next month covering Auburn's recruitment. Supposedly it's going to contain something that makes Auburn's recruiting practices a little less favorable in the eyes of the NCAA. Can someone inform me how HBO has any information about Auburn's recruitment process that the NCAA is not aware of? I'd imagine if they held any information, they'd be required to turn it over to the NCAA as soon as they discovered anything. First time I saw anything about it was over on Auburneagle.com, and now a thread has popped up over on AUC. Finebaum just continuing to stir the pot and create ratings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNewby 27 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Well I know one thing for sure. I always turn to HBO for my news and sports information. Damn posers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoic-one 1,586 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Can someone inform me how HBO has any information about Auburn's recruitment process that the NCAA is not aware of? I'd imagine if they held any information, they'd be required to turn it over to the NCAA as soon as they discovered anything. The NCAA does not have the ability to compell anyone to disclose anything. I thought we covered this subject during the Cam fiasco. As for HBO, heard a bunch of rumors but nothing solid.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,781 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 It was said on the SportsCall radio show that HBO is planning a special on recruiting in general. There is no indication that it will focus on, or even mention Auburn. We'll just have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,137 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Gayer Evans pops off about 2 AU recruits from LA, @ their coach says AU didn't do anything wrong. News flashes today bout thUGA's QB breaking his ankle, in 2 places... it's a sprain? Reporting is less & less facts and more about breaking the story - first. First Cam, then Fairley, then 2 recruits... They keep tossin' mud, to see us flinch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSammyK 171 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Gayer Evans pops off about 2 AU recruits from LA, @ their coach says AU didn't do anything wrong. News flashes today bout thUGA's QB breaking his ankle, in 2 places... it's a sprain? Reporting is less & less facts and more about breaking the story - first. First Cam, then Fairley, then 2 recruits... They keep tossin' mud, to see us flinch. FWIW - a sprain is worse than a break 9 times out of 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUloggerhead 2,506 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Gayer Evans pops off about 2 AU recruits from LA, @ their coach says AU didn't do anything wrong. News flashes today bout thUGA's QB breaking his ankle, in 2 places... it's a sprain? Reporting is less & less facts and more about breaking the story - first. First Cam, then Fairley, then 2 recruits... They keep tossin' mud, to see us flinch. FWIW - a sprain is worse than a break 9 times out of 10. Ummm .... no. From personal experience: every time I've broken my ankle (and I've done it twice, btw) it's ALWAYS been worse than a sprain -- like as a minimum, 10 times worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburntiger1987 759 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I've had bad sprains in my life where i really screwed up my ligaments, doc even said he wished i just broke it because it'd be easier to fix. His direct words were your ankle will never be the same because the ligaments dont really heal well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigertail07 2 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I've had bad sprains in my life where i really screwed up my ligaments, doc even said he wished i just broke it because it'd be easier to fix. His direct words were your ankle will never be the same because the ligaments dont really heal well broken my ankle 3 times and sprained it numerous times before and a sprain is most def worse. you never fully get the stability back like you do after surgery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSammyK 171 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Gayer Evans pops off about 2 AU recruits from LA, @ their coach says AU didn't do anything wrong. News flashes today bout thUGA's QB breaking his ankle, in 2 places... it's a sprain? Reporting is less & less facts and more about breaking the story - first. First Cam, then Fairley, then 2 recruits... They keep tossin' mud, to see us flinch. FWIW - a sprain is worse than a break 9 times out of 10. Ummm .... no. From personal experience: every time I've broken my ankle (and I've done it twice, btw) it's ALWAYS been worse than a sprain -- like as a minimum, 10 times worse. Then you haven't had a 2nd or 3rd degree sprain. Ask any doctor or PT about the healing time between the two and mobility after healing. A break will actually heal more quickly and end up being stronger at the point of the break. A sprain on the other hand takes longer and will be less mobile because the ligament calcifies. The rehab is a lot more involved for a 2nd or 3rd degree sprain than it is for a break. And "from personal experience"... I grew up playing soccer and even played for two years on the AU club team. I've broken my right ankle three times and had a few 2nd degree sprains and one severe 3rd degree sprain. In fact, the last time I was seriously injured I managed to take care of two birds with one stone. Keeper came in heels up and I ended up with a break on my right ankle and a 3rd degree high ankle sprain on the left. Doctor put me in a tiny air cast for the break and an immobilizing up-to-the-knee boot for the sprain. I was putting weight on the break the next day but it took over a month to rehab the sprain. Look it up if you don't believe me - I'm not lying to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan4Auburn 1,626 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 So I've been hearing and reading rumors that an episode of Real Sports is supposed to come out next month covering Auburn's recruitment. Supposedly it's going to contain something that makes Auburn's recruiting practices a little less favorable in the eyes of the NCAA. Can someone inform me how HBO has any information about Auburn's recruitment process that the NCAA is not aware of? I'd imagine if they held any information, they'd be required to turn it over to the NCAA as soon as they discovered anything. First time I saw anything about it was over on Auburneagle.com, and now a thread has popped up over on AUC. Finebaum just continuing to stir the pot and create ratings? Well to answer your question, just read on a board (ITAT) that HBO's source on Auburn will be Stanely McClover with claims that Gran gave him benefits in his recruiting. No idea if the guy is correct or not, so put that in the rumors book and leave it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,137 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Gayer Evans pops off about 2 AU recruits from LA, @ their coach says AU didn't do anything wrong. News flashes today bout thUGA's QB breaking his ankle, in 2 places... it's a sprain? Reporting is less & less facts and more about breaking the story - first. First Cam, then Fairley, then 2 recruits... They keep tossin' mud, to see us flinch. FWIW - a sprain is worse than a break 9 times out of 10. Never broke my ankles, but sprained them on several occasions. Not fun, not even a little. But as it was initially reported, Murray broke his ankle in 2 places. I've not seen a doctor's report, but I don't think I'd choose that over a simple sprain. Not sure how severe it is, but it sounds worse to say 'break' than sprain, imo. My main point was, they ran w/ a unconfirmed version of the story, simply to get it out first. Also, why all this secrecy as to what he was doing? What's up w/ that ? Just come out and say he was playing soccer or something. Any chance he was doing something organized,beyond their allotted hours, like Michigan got caught for doing ? Just askin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSVTIGER 5 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 So I've been hearing and reading rumors that an episode of Real Sports is supposed to come out next month covering Auburn's recruitment. Supposedly it's going to contain something that makes Auburn's recruiting practices a little less favorable in the eyes of the NCAA. Can someone inform me how HBO has any information about Auburn's recruitment process that the NCAA is not aware of? I'd imagine if they held any information, they'd be required to turn it over to the NCAA as soon as they discovered anything. First time I saw anything about it was over on Auburneagle.com, and now a thread has popped up over on AUC. Finebaum just continuing to stir the pot and create ratings? Well to answer your question, just read on a board (ITAT) that HBO's source on Auburn will be Stanely McClover with claims that Gran gave him benefits in his recruiting. No idea if the guy is correct or not, so put that in the rumors book and leave it there. So even if something did go on between McGolver and Gran, that was 8-years ago, involving a coach who is no longer there. That being said, I always thought that Eddie Gran was considered a pretty upstanding kind of guy - doesn't sound like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 9,519 Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 If the McClover rumor is true, then we can't be punished. 4 year statute of limitations regarding NCAA violations no matter how severe the infraction. That said, this will only harm Auburn's reputation and people will be "certain" Auburn paid for Cam. Even though there's zero evidence that would support that claim. Supposedly this episode is going to cover various other schools in the SEC. I wonder why we haven't heard any other names of coaches and players involved in such shady dealings.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgr4lfe 220 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 If the McClover rumor is true, then we can't be punished. 4 year statute of limitations regarding NCAA violations no matter how severe the infraction. That said, this will only harm Auburn's reputation and people will be "certain" Auburn paid for Cam. Even though there's zero evidence that would support that claim. Supposedly this episode is going to cover various other schools in the SEC. I wonder why we haven't heard any other names of coaches and players involved in such shady dealings.... B/c AUBURN is the team at the top of the pedestal right now, and everybody wants to take a swing to see if they can knock the giant down!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSVTIGER 5 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I heard that Alabama also gets drug through the mud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcctTiger 0 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Click Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 9,519 Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 Click Me So is that article worth reading? He starts with: Strictly rumor at this point, let's see if it develops. Again, not confirmed. Only rumor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcctTiger 0 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Click Me So is that article worth reading? He starts with: Strictly rumor at this point, let's see if it develops. Again, not confirmed. Only rumor. Is this thread worth 2 pages...nothing but rumors and speculation in it...why not post a link with the same???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 9,519 Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 Because if it's already been covered within the thread, reading that link would be redundant and a waste of time. So, I'll ask again, is it really worth reading? Is there anything touched on there that hasn't already been mentioned here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcctTiger 0 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Because if it's already been covered within the thread, reading that link would be redundant and a waste of time. So, I'll ask again, is it really worth reading? Is there anything touched on there that hasn't already been mentioned here? You made the point the article was not worth posting because of the first sentence, "Strictly rumor at this point, let's see if it develops. Again, not confirmed. Only rumor." Not because it was redundant...if you read the article...it rehashes one of your speculations as well as adds a few points about things not discussed in this thread...so yes there is information in this article that is NOT discussed in this thread...particularly related rival universities... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 9,519 Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 That's all I was asking. Thank you, I'll check it out in a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duder 241 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 We have already been tried and convicted in the court of media, this won't do anything that hasnt already happened. McClover is a name I haven't heard in a while. I never thought Gran would be involved in anything. As for break/sprain--yes a sprain is worse because stability is grossly compromised. However, the statement that stability is never the same is horribly false. I've had several high grade sprains in my life. I'm currently a barefoot runner and trail runner--both of which require great stability. It takes longer to fully heal than a break but if you work it, your body will adapt. We are not as frail as Fleet Feet would have you believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUloggerhead 2,506 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Then you haven't had a 2nd or 3rd degree sprain. Ask any doctor or PT about the healing time between the two and mobility after healing. A break will actually heal more quickly and end up being stronger at the point of the break. A sprain on the other hand takes longer and will be less mobile because the ligament calcifies. The rehab is a lot more involved for a 2nd or 3rd degree sprain than it is for a break. And "from personal experience"... I grew up playing soccer and even played for two years on the AU club team. I've broken my right ankle three times and had a few 2nd degree sprains and one severe 3rd degree sprain. In fact, the last time I was seriously injured I managed to take care of two birds with one stone. Keeper came in heels up and I ended up with a break on my right ankle and a 3rd degree high ankle sprain on the left. Doctor put me in a tiny air cast for the break and an immobilizing up-to-the-knee boot for the sprain. I was putting weight on the break the next day but it took over a month to rehab the sprain. Look it up if you don't believe me - I'm not lying to you. There are many different fractures which would constitute a "break." From what you described as your ankle break: "putting weight on it the next day" all I can say is then it wasn't anything like the break I sustained -- fractured both the tibia & fibula just above the ankle at age 15 playing JV football at my HS. I was in a full length cast for 3.5 months and then a knee-high walking cast for another month. The tibia is the main load-bearing bone of the lower leg. Break it, and there is no walking on it the next day. I don't need a doctor to tell me about it and I don't need to "look it up." So from my perspective, breaking my ankle was 10 times worse than spraining it. And I did that enough times too -- even putting me on crutches a couple of times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duder 241 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Then you haven't had a 2nd or 3rd degree sprain. Ask any doctor or PT about the healing time between the two and mobility after healing. A break will actually heal more quickly and end up being stronger at the point of the break. A sprain on the other hand takes longer and will be less mobile because the ligament calcifies. The rehab is a lot more involved for a 2nd or 3rd degree sprain than it is for a break. And "from personal experience"... I grew up playing soccer and even played for two years on the AU club team. I've broken my right ankle three times and had a few 2nd degree sprains and one severe 3rd degree sprain. In fact, the last time I was seriously injured I managed to take care of two birds with one stone. Keeper came in heels up and I ended up with a break on my right ankle and a 3rd degree high ankle sprain on the left. Doctor put me in a tiny air cast for the break and an immobilizing up-to-the-knee boot for the sprain. I was putting weight on the break the next day but it took over a month to rehab the sprain. Look it up if you don't believe me - I'm not lying to you. There are many different fractures which would constitute a "break." From what you described as your ankle break: "putting weight on it the next day" all I can say is then it wasn't anything like the break I sustained -- fractured both the tibia & fibula just above the ankle at age 15 playing JV football at my HS. I was in a full length cast for 3.5 months and then a knee-high walking cast for another month. The tibia is the main load-bearing bone of the lower leg. Break it, and there is no walking on it the next day. I don't need a doctor to tell me about it and I don't need to "look it up." So from my perspective, breaking my ankle was 10 times worse than spraining it. And I did that enough times too -- even putting me on crutches a couple of times. In your case, you are 100% correct. That's quite a rough injury, certainly more than your "run of the mill" broken ankle. I had a "knee" surgery that involved sawing off the tibial tubercle (the little "knob" under your knee cap) and shifting it over. I was completely non-weight bearing for 6 weeks, 100% immobilized via brace for 4 weeks (I think). It was a pain like no other that I've experienced and it was not completely broken--I can both empathize and not imagine. Did you enjoy your girly little calf? After all that immobilization there had to be some. I had some crazy atrophy after just six weeks. Generally speaking, breaks are easier to heal--you clearly experienced one of the exceptions to that rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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