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Alabama's 12 National Championships

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12 National Championships? … The Real Story

I just wanted to clear up a few misconceptions about Alabama’s claim to 12 national championships based on fact rather than bias. Credit is given where credit is due.

To clear up confusion, the word retroactive means they went back in time to award the championship.

‘TWELVE’ national championships is fraudulent, nothing but pure bunk ginned up by the SID Department. Here’s a rundown:

1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn’t exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another incredible retroactive NC.

The Associated Press Poll has been active since 1936. The AP took their final poll prior to bowl games from 1936 – 1964 and in 1966 and 1967. They took their final poll after the bowl games in 1965 and from 1968 – Current.

1926 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it!

1930 National Championship- The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system! He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933!

1934 National Championship- Alabama says they share this with two other teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus. Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first appeared in 1946!

1941 National Championship- This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year. Mississippi State won the SEC title..yet Bama claims a National title!

1961 National Championship- Finally a legitimate NC. .

1964 National Championship- While the AP did award the NC to Bama (10-1-0), Arkansas had the better record, 11-0. Alabama played Texas in their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl.

1965 National Championship- The AP gave this to Bama. That year there were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St 10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0.

1973 National Championship- AP puts Bama 4th after their bowl game loss. Bama claims a NC from the UPI poll that was taken before they met Notre Dame in the bowl game and lost. There were 3 teams with better records than Bama that year. The embarrassment of naming Alabama number one caused the UPI to name champions after bowl games. Yet Bammer has no shame in claiming it of course.

1978 National Championship- AP gives this to Alabama(11-1-0) even though USC (12-1-0) had the better record Guess who Alabama lost to that year? USC!!!!!!!!!. UPI gave the NC to USC.

1979 National Championship- Their second legitimate NC. Their first Unanimous NC.

1992 National Championship- Their third legitimate NC. Their second Unanimous NC.

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How many does AU have if we count all the mythical ones....in 2004 we were No. 1 according to the Golf Digest...

I live in Bham and the Bama fans are more than obnoxious.  it makes me sick

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How many does AU have if we count all the mythical ones....in 2004 we were No. 1 according to the Golf Digest...

I live in Bham and the Bama fans are more than obnoxious.   it makes me sick

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Using Bammer math we have 6.

1913

1914 (did not give up one single point that season)

1957

1983

1992

2004

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Regardless of what the facts are, bammers are strong enough in numbers to make the entire nation believe they have 12 nc's. Now the hardest pill to swallow will be Thursday night when they win their 7th.....8th......oh hell, I mean 13th nc. Take it for someone who has been down this road before, it will not be a smooth ride, but it is one we must endure regardless. We are Auburn!!! War Damn Eagle!!!! Their day is coming and when it does, I hope it is Gene Chizik and the Auburn Tigers that hands it to them.

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According to this using bammer logic 8..........i copied and pasted this from wikipedia.com

National champion teams

Eight Auburn teams have been awarded some form of "National Champions" title. The NCAA's website states that "the NCAA does not conduct a national championship in Division I-A football and is not involved in the selection process", but goes on to state that "a number of polling organizations provide a final ranking of Division I-A football teams at the end of each season". The NCAA website lists four Auburn squads that have been named National Champions by at least one organization.[12] The following is the complete list of Auburn teams ranked No. 1 and some of the organizations that recognized them as National Champion:[13]

Team Organization

1910 6–1 team Loren Maxwell

1913 undefeated 8–0 team Billingsley, James Howell, 1st-N-Goal

1914 undefeated 8–0–1 team James Howell

'1957 undefeated 10–0 team Associated Press, Billingsley, Fleming, Football Research, Helms, James Howell, Massey Ratings, National Championship Foundation, Nutshell Sports, Poling, Sagarin, Sorensen, Williamson, David Wilson

1958 undefeated 9–0–1 team Montgomery Full Season Championship

1983 11–1 team ARGH, Billingsley, DKC, Eck, FACT, Fleming, Football Research, James Howell, Massey Ratings, New York Times, Nutshell Sports, Sorensen, Sparks Achievement, David Wilson, 1st-N-Goal

1993 undefeated 11–0 team Harry Frye, National Championship Foundation, Nutshell Sports, Sparks Achievement, David Wilson

2004 undefeated 13–0 team Darryl W. Perry, EFI, FansPoll, GBE, Hank Trexler, M Cubed

The AP Poll did not begin selecting a champion until 1936 nor the AFCA Coaches Poll until 1950, so many national champion titles previous to those date were awarded retroactively. However during the 1910s, it is difficult to dispute the legitimacy of the Auburn titles. The undefeated 1913 and 1914 teams coached by Mike Donahue were some of the best defenses in Auburn history. In fact, the 1914 squad allowed zero points all season, outscoring opponents 193-0. The 1983 team featuring Bo Jackson went 11–1 and finished the season by beating Michigan in the Sugar Bowl. The undefeated 2004 squad (13–0) finished second in the AP and Coaches Top 25 polls, but the team was awarded the 2004 Fanspoll.com People's National Champion title.[14] Auburn University officially only claims the Associated Press (AP) National Championship of 1957[15] (although the school does acknowledge the 1913, 1983, 1993 and 2004 titles in their media guide).[16]

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