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Just a simple question and I'm not knocking anyone, but I keep reading Auburn posters questioning why we're going after some recruits and not others.  And saying we're taking too many at one position, etc.  In other words kind of second-guessing.

I never go to any Bama's boards and was wondering for those who do, do Bama posters do the same as Auburn posters, or do they simply accept the fact Saban & his coaches do not make mistakes in recruiting.

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Just a simple question and I'm not knocking anyone, but I keep reading Auburn posters questioning why we're going after some recruits and not others.  And saying we're taking too many at one position, etc.  In other words kind of second-guessing.

I never go to any Bama's boards and was wondering for those who do, do Bama posters do the same as Auburn posters, or do they simply accept the fact Saban & his coaches do not make mistakes in recruiting.

Most of them are too busy bent over waiting on Lord Saybinz next move to question anything he is doing.

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Bammers may or may not, but I think that is part of the fun coming on the boards and being pseudo analysts. I am sure we all trust our coaching staff they have done a marvelous job. I will always concede to our coaches and yes even they will sometimes get it wrong for whatever reason (in otherwords it may just be the desire and drive of the player not the talent. Some kids just can't adjust to college level ball). However, when many become avid recruiting watchers or even researchers following all the news, looking at profiles, reading hometown articles of the players, etc. We want to throw our 2 cents out there for what its worth and having fun thinking we are part of the process.

Our coaches have a clear plan in mind and some opinions on a board is not going to sway them and the same fans offering that opinion will stand behind our coaches with fierce loyalty. War Eagle!!!

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It's fun to try and read into our coaches recruiting strategy and compare that to your own expectations.  Here's what I think the ideal plan is every year.... recruit a full team.  That's 22 players (plus kickers every 3rd year or so).  If we expect to sign the allowable 28 in February then I think we know how 22 of those letters are going to be distributed.  That leaves 3 extra positions to recruit that probably go to prospects we can't turn down no matter what the numbers are at their position... think Kris Frost.  The remaining 3 commits should go to guys who are set up for pre-arranged greyshirts.  What's throwing me off this year is the large number of safety/corners, the potential for two extra defensive tackles and the large group of wide/slot receivers.  Like many of you I thought we might skimp on receivers.  I'm interested to see how this all plays out.

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A lot of Bama fans were secomd guessing taking Ely.

That's the reason I asked the question.  I saw he was only rated a 3* and was wondering if the Bama recruiting watchers questioned this decision.  I know most all Bama fans and the state media do not question anything Saban does and was curious.  Thanks for answering my question.

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UAT is only getting those players Chizik doesn't want now...

AU is dominating the state...weeman & co. have to go outside AL to recruit now...evidence = a 3* QB...

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  All this talk, is just that, talk. We ask questions , but the coaches know far better what the team needs. Trust em , cause what we say ain't gonna help or hurt. Thats why they are the coaches ,and we're ....not .WDE

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UAT is only getting those players Chizik doesn't want now...

AU is dominating the state...weeman & co. have to go outside AL to recruit now...evidence = a 3* QB...

:rolleyes:

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UAT is only getting those players Chizik doesn't want now...

AU is dominating the state...weeman & co. have to go outside AL to recruit now...evidence = a 3* QB...

I think we've done much better in-state since Chizik and co. have arrived, but Bama is going to get their fair share. We were pretty hot on Brent Calloway, LaMichael Fanning and Danny Woodson Jr. for a while. It's much more balanced now -- we got JaBrian Niles, Jonathan Rose and Reese Dismukes, among others Bama wanted. They get some guys we want. That's how it goes.

And their 3 star QB is actually a 4 star on Rivals, so I'm not sure where that is coming from.

I'm really happy with our recruiting efforts -- I think we're doing a great job, especially in-state. That'll be important for next year, with the deep 2012 class. Bama's always going to get their fair share -- but now it's a fair fight.

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UAT is only getting those players Chizik doesn't want now...

AU is dominating the state...weeman & co. have to go outside AL to recruit now...evidence = a 3* QB...

LMAO!!

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UAT is only getting those players Chizik doesn't want now...

AU is dominating the state...weeman & co. have to go outside AL to recruit now...evidence = a 3* QB...

:laugh::thumbsup:

You got your 'swagger' back, walker77!

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UAT is only getting those players Chizik doesn't want now...

AU is dominating the state...weeman & co. have to go outside AL to recruit now...evidence = a 3* QB...

I think we've done much better in-state since Chizik and co. have arrived, but Bama is going to get their fair share. We were pretty hot on Brent Calloway, LaMichael Fanning and Danny Woodson Jr. for a while. It's much more balanced now -- we got JaBrian Niles, Jonathan Rose and Reese Dismukes, among others Bama wanted. They get some guys we want. That's how it goes.

And their 3 star QB is actually a 4 star on Rivals, so I'm not sure where that is coming from.

I'm really happy with our recruiting efforts -- I think we're doing a great job, especially in-state. That'll be important for next year, with the deep 2012 class. Bama's always going to get their fair share -- but now it's a fair fight.

I agree wit everything.  Nice post.

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Some of Ely's talent is due to ALL of the talent that surrounds him at Tampa Plant, its crazy. He should not be a 4 star anywhere , IMO. A three star at most.

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Just a simple question and I'm not knocking anyone, but I keep reading Auburn posters questioning why we're going after some recruits and not others.  And saying we're taking too many at one position, etc.  In other words kind of second-guessing.

I never go to any Bama's boards and was wondering for those who do, do Bama posters do the same as Auburn posters, or do they simply accept the fact Saban & his coaches do not make mistakes in recruiting.

You are assuming that Bammers can read and operate a computer.  :aufb:

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Just a simple question and I'm not knocking anyone, but I keep reading Auburn posters questioning why we're going after some recruits and not others.  And saying we're taking too many at one position, etc.  In other words kind of second-guessing.

I never go to any Bama's boards and was wondering for those who do, do Bama posters do the same as Auburn posters, or do they simply accept the fact Saban & his coaches do not make mistakes in recruiting.

You are assuming that Bammers can read and operate a computer.  :aufb:

Good point. I mean, hey, they are quite literally the most ignorant, inbred fanbase in the nation.

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UAT is only getting those players Chizik doesn't want now...

AU is dominating the state...weeman & co. have to go outside AL to recruit now...evidence = a 3* QB...

Maybe that's because there isnt a single good QB in Alabama in this year's class

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UAT is only getting those players Chizik doesn't want now...

AU is dominating the state...weeman & co. have to go outside AL to recruit now...evidence = a 3* QB...

Maybe that's because there isnt a single good QB in Alabama in this year's class

Bingo, don't kill the obsessed ua people with facts.

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UAT is only getting those players Chizik doesn't want now...

AU is dominating the state...weeman & co. have to go outside AL to recruit now...evidence = a 3* QB...

For those of you who haven't caught on, this is intended as a mockery of the exact things UAT fans have posted about our recruiting.... :)

:pcprobs: Frankly I don't care who/what they recruit...and I am not UAT obsessed!!!!

But I can assure you that if there was a top QB in state we would be in the mix, regardless of weeman...

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I lived in Louisiana during the Satan regime and I can't help but make the comparison between then and now.  Right after LSu won their NC you could not walk outside of your home without hearing how might Lsu is and no one can touch them with their diminutive sized coach with the Buford Pusser character ego.  Satan was going to become the next leader of the Acadian and Creole nations, but he could not stand the heat and ran out of the kitchen.  There was something about parents calling him up and complaining about their boys playing time during the games and he was not coaching Pee Wee football, so he left.  Who is going to become the next Mrs. Randle for the turds?  Time will tell.

CGC is a big time football program coach.  He knows what he is doing and the coaches who have joined him on the staff know it as well or they would not have accepted the terms of their respective contracts.  Rome was not built in a day, so we need a little more time for this staff to gather the full compliment of talent to put a NC caliber team together, but it is evident that the proper actions are being executed.  The talent and character that is being recruited to AUBURN for our football program is exciting to watch.  The 2011 Class is already shaping up to be built upon some quality young men.  Due to this fact, I don't care what Satan is doing across the state, because CGC and Co. are getting it done in AUBURN where it matters most to me.

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Filling my immediate needs would supersede the perceived battle with the rival every time, because my team talent is far more important than what a group of reporters care to write about to sell magazines and advertising.

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My next statement will be absolutely misunderstood:

We are about one year behind Alabama.

If you notice where we were when Chizik came in versus when Saban went to Bama, we are almost a year behind them right now and our classes will be very similar to what they have only one year later.  The big difference is that they were in better shape roster balance-wise.  We are lopsided in several positions, linebackers and offensive line are the two big ones, with seniors and little depth.  Our coaches are essentially having to start over and build the program on an unbalanced foundation, it can be done, it just takes longer.

Two years ago, Bama took a very balanced class that was loaded at every position and really emphasized both lines.  Last year they took a good class but really went after dbs.  Last year we took a very balanced class that had about 10 to 12 linemen and good balance overall.  This year we are really hammering on dbs.  A one year offset.

As far as board posters questioning Saban, yeah they do and then just hide behind him knowing everything and being the end all.

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I prefer to see the coaches balance the recruiting across all positions, but I am sure that they take into account the talent available versus future needs of the team at any given time.  No one can predict injuries or early departures other than the academic casualties.

I would have to agree with you that Bama has a year or two head start on AUBURN given the drop off in talent that seemed to creep up on AUBURN after the 2006 season.  We have some good talent, but the depth of talent was the deeper issue.

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My next statement will be absolutely misunderstood:

We are about one year behind Alabama.

I agree 100%...given 1 or 2 more classes and playing field is level in depth and quality

= AU historically beats UAT when both teams are loaded

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