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The key is having 5 guys to choose from which gives 4 other factions of fans on here something to complain about. 

12 hours ago, rockfordpi said:

 

The University actively and constantly solicits donations from these people, they can't then turn around and punish them for wanting to have a say in what the University does with their millions.

But they can. If these big money donors truly love AU they would be fine with that. AU was placed on academic probation with the risk of losing accreditation for giving these people too much influence. It had nothing to do with the failure to provide a quality education. It was 100% related to the sports program.

The problem is we are still discussing the PTB after going through this in the not too distant past. AU got as close as a school can get to losing its accreditation because of influences and money issues within the athletics program. 

I appreciate every dime donated to support the programs. It needs to be clear your donation gets you nothing more than maybe great seats and a name on a building. 

Just now, Hank2020 said:

Certainly not all the players that transferred. Every team has on average 11 players transfer ( my guesstimating so may not be completely accurate number). We would have lost players no matter what especially with a new coach and different systems so we were going to lose some. The ones that left did not mention the work/expectations being too hard but that is exactly what the ones that stayed called them out on.

You are really close. It was an avg of 12.8 for every FBS and FCS team. 

8 minutes ago, Pat Fossum said:

Is Auburn really about to get rid of Harsin without cause? This has the potential to be the equivalent of the “death penalty” for this program. 

For those saying it isn’t PTB this time…please give us any reason why we should believe you because there is NOTHING out there that would point to them not being the reason.
 

The same guys who have pulled the strings for decades and ran a failed coup just a year ago are no longer? The guys who were angry that they had no say in the hiring of Harsin are suddenly fine after a losing season?

The same guys who crave power more than anything because they’ve got so much money it doesn’t bring them anymore happiness…don’t crave power anymore?

This is insanity. Somebody please make some sense. I don’t want likes, dislikes, trophies. Somebody please just make some damn sense of it.

There is no sense to make. The same basic group that put AU's accreditation in jeopardy 20 years ago is getting crap started all over again. You hit the nail on the head. They have all the money they want so they are only looking for power and for someone to stroke their ego. 

First and foremost we are all message board junkies. Not a dang one of us actually know what all is happening. Things are never as bad as we think they are and never as amazing as we believe. The coaching hire also brought a culture shock along with it. There is probably more of a chance that the expectations placed on players are higher than they were in the past versus the culture being toxic. Change isn't instant and will take some time regardless of who is running the program. 

The vast majority of us cannot imagine how many kids on every team are unhappy with where they signed. Add in a coaching change and it can get worse. The portal just gave them an easy out and they are taking advantage of it. My daughter is a college athlete. Through my time as one of her coaches I have gotten to know so many girls that are now playing in college. I also know several that quit during their first semester or absolutely hate where they are. There is a difference between the coaches they meet during recruiting vs the coaches they have when they get to campus. There is a tough transition so many go through balancing school and a sport while being away from home for the first time. 

Look at the portal and this isn't just an AU issue. There is an average of 12.8 players transferring from each DI program (129 FBS and 125 FCS). 

Sports Illustrated tweeted Wednesday that a record 3,000-plus FBS and FCS players have entered the transfer portal in the past two months. This week alone, 173 players have hit the portal, according to 247 Sports.

17 hours ago, AU9377 said:

The program is not a total rebuild.  A team that can play with anyone in the country is by its very definition not a total rebuild.

I would not say a total rebuild but you are moving from one set of offensive and defensive philosophies to another set. It does take some rebuilding to get the players you need to run the system.

AU-27

A&M- 20

6 minutes ago, AUcivE09 said:

All Braves fans now waiting for Bo's fiancé to announce she is pregnant!

Didn't the bammers say he had a secret kid? Should give a couple of years head start.

18 hours ago, AUx said:

FWIW - same here. Then i tried the rope or snake method with the Webber. Can go about 6 hours without worrying about it. I could not believe it actually worked and pork butt turned out awesome. Wanting to do brisket soon. Just use decent quality charcoal. I've almost pulled the trigger on electric and natural gas smokers many times. Seems like something breaks or doesn't work as advertised whenever I shell out more cash. If I did get a dedicated upright smoker, it would be electric.

I picked up an Oklahoma Joe's Bronco barrel smoker. Fill the basket up and light one side and I have ran it 12 hours and basically not touched anything. Really impressed by temp control on a none electric. Once you figure out the air flow setting for the temp you want it basically handles the rest by itself. 

AU by 10. 37-27. 

Something is clicking with the team now. We saw things against Ark we had not seen. The passing game opened up and hit big plays. We actually got pressure on the QB. I think the same things are in play here but there is also an added factor. Corral is a superstar and one of the best in the country. I heard someone talking yesterday and they mentioned his numbers when under pressure and he basically completes about 35% of his passes. I may have misheard but it was said that getting pressure on him is the way to stop their offense.

Using a spy and having the line get after him will be a huge part of this game. 

One play stands out to me that would not have needed up like it did with Nix in the past. On the scramble TD pass against LSU he stopped and set his feet before he threw the ball at the last possible second. Last season he would have slung it while in mid air jumping out of bounds.

Mine loved Fan Fest when they were younger. Their list of must do were Tiger Walk, Pep rally, Fan Fest, Eagle flight, Toomer's lemonade, and Little Italy pizza. Yes there are better places to eat but for kids you really can't beat it if you kids love pizza like 90% of them do.

2 hours ago, gr82be said:

Did not watch anything but the end of both. This one was a closer finish but surely there is no way we can't score with first and goal at the one foot line with under a minute to win the game. You'd actually have to try hard not to score from there to screw that up. Seems our red zone issues plague us even in video games. 

 

My first thought was Gus was back calling plays. First and goal at the 1 foot line and we pass?

2 hours ago, autiger88 said:

Well he refused to answer if he was vaccinated or not I guess we will find out by December 8th🤷

We will not find out. The lawsuits are ready to go as soon as the rule coming from OSHA is actually approved. The mandate will be stayed until everything works through the courts. By that time we will be dealing with another virus in 2031. 

3 minutes ago, e808 said:

Actually regarding Gus it was only Georgia IMO.  Auburn pretty much beat the hell out of LSU at home and I don’t believe Auburn lost to TAMU at college station. Alabama was almost every other year. The frustrating things was the dudes sprinkled in there.

I agree with you. I give Gus props for being a good man and running the program as cleanly as any around. We really didn't have many embarrassing moments off the field. The lack of consistency was my issue with him. I also can't understand why he got away from what got him to AU in the first place. After Marshall left he tried to continually move away from the read option and hurry up. He didn't have to have a Marshall type to run it and honestly Nix with our backs the last couple of years could have ran it well. The scheme helped hide some of our deficiencies. The game as a whole is moving toward RPO's and he could have been on the front side of this. 

1 hour ago, Hank2020 said:

No, I don’t think that is what Bammers most believe. A high percentage of Bammers believe it is the school and Saban will hand off to the next dynasty guy ( probably Sweeney).

I don't think Sweeney comes. He is/will be the considered the greatest coach in the history of Clemson. He is only a couple of years away from being their winningest coach of all time and it will take him 13-14 less years than it did the current #1. Regardless of whether he played at uat or not why would you leave a place where you are the legend to go to another and replace the actual legend? ACC to SEC? If anything his job gets easier once Saban is gone because its one less team he has to worry about. 

6 minutes ago, woodford said:

Definitely possible. Age will catch up if it hasn’t already. The smart Bammers (oxy moron) know they’re on the back end if not the end of the dynasty. 

And I definitely do not see him pulling a Bowden or Paterno and running the program in the ground. He won't accept not being able to compete at the highest level so I don't see him allowing a string of 8-4 type seasons where they are out of contention by November. If he coached anywhere but there I would be a big fan because he truly is a good leader. 

30 minutes ago, bootskii said:

College football is always about what have you done for me lately as most people have goldfish memories now a days. 

Great thought. Honestly how would bama message boards look if they lost to AU and then were beat by UGA in the SEC championship game and wind up with three losses. Instantly the gumps would be questioning whether Saban has lost it and needs to retire. 

16 hours ago, Mikey said:

Unless 47 drops the TD pass just like he dropped the previous one.

 

All this ya-ya and yet, Bo Nix had the highest grade of any player with over five snaps. (80.3), which was also Hunter's grade. The top defensive player was Z. Puckett with 73.5.

I saw more dropped passes by AU receivers than I did in all the rest of the games I watched combined. This team needs to step it up, but the pass catchers are the lowest performers and they need to step up a lot more than other positions, including the QB.

Have you not figured out yet you cannot have an opinion on Nix and the offense unless he is blamed for all issues? He always throws too hard, too soft, too far, too fast. We have a stable full of actual 4 and 5* receivers but shouldn't expect them to catch a pass that hits them in the hands. I mean they only play in the SEC which is basically one level under the NFL. Why should we expect them to actually be able to catch a football? 

24 minutes ago, McLoofus said:

Lol at there being no middle ground between "just flipping it out there" and trying to break Worm's wrists. Regardless, there wasn't much danger of a defender getting in front of it at all. And yes, exactly, a perfect pass would have led Worm in addition to having some touch on it.

This conversation is awful.

You act like that was the only one. He had multiple drops and I'm not counting the ones Nix hit him in the back with to avoid a sack. 

44 minutes ago, cole256 said:

See? No you don't have to play in the SEC to understand the velocity of a ball on a delayed screen matters. You don't have to play in the SEC to understand just how difficult it is to turn on one side over the shoulder and then try to turn to the other at the last minute because of a bad throw and catch it.....you do have to have experience it though to understand.

You see if you just watch it and say well it hit the hands.....you don't understand it took unbelievable coordination to make that happen, the actual getting hands on it.

It's no different than people who complain about missing a lay up, or missing a dunk, or dribbling a ball.....if you watch it.....yeah how can you miss that? Yet you see professionals do it every day. Because there are factors that if you haven't done it you just don't know. 

And I don't care if it hurts feelings or not it's reality of life. I'm not a professional mechanic, but my grandfather was and sorry I'm going to be more knowledgeable about stuff I was taught than a person that never worked on things before. Even though we are both not certified mechanics. As much as you love to argue it's surprising you'd throw such a weak argument out.

Oh and you don't know me, I didn't play football out of choice. But make no mistake if you want to know I was easily a D1 level athlete. Nobody that knows me would dispute it. I've competed with a large list of D1 athletes and worked out with them, and now have help mentor a few. Could care less how you don't like it but I know what's the more difficult things to do in the game

Doing a double over the shoulder full speed adjustment it's much harder than a one hand catch. Easy. If you haven't ever done it just looking at the ball hit your hands you may not know that. 

 

 

The vast majority of these balls hit them in the hands and should have been caught period. They didn't require any adjustment they were just dropped. If they are not diving or having to change sides at the last second there is no excuse. Just like any other part of life there is no excuse for failure on a basic fundamental portion of your job. 

I was also not a college athlete by choice. My choice was to not go to the couple of DII's as an invited walk-on to play baseball because at the time I had a school I was in love with and made a decision based on that. Definitely wasn't good enough for the old teams at USA. That being said just because I have been there doesn't mean I accepted excuses from my daughter or her teammates we coached for not making routine plays. Winners make routine plays or work until the point they can. Winners make difficult plays a 50/50 proposition. Winners make insane plays possible. By focusing on the routine the tougher stuff naturally followed. Not accepting the excuses above is probably a big reason why 10 out of the 12 girls we had way back in 8U-10U are college athletes now. 

42 minutes ago, McLoofus said:

Yes it was. It was still catchable, but unnecessarily difficult to catch. Even Aaron Murray- a quarterback- said it was a bad throw.

*****

To the people who say "if it hits you in the hands you're supposed to catch it", it's fine for you- as a fan- to say that. Because that is a thing that fans say. Nobody in football says that, because it's not true. But feel free to wave your hands around and scream that you're a fan who doesn't actually know much about the sport. That's your right, as a fan. 

Ask Murray what happens if Nix takes anything off that ball. If he just flips it out there ti is a pick six and best case Shiver's catches it and gets rocked for a loss. The ball had to beat the defender there and give him room to start running.

Dead on. If the receivers can miraculously learn to catch this week we will make a run at ATL. Harsin should be at the intermural fields finding guys with hands.