4 hours ago, aubiefifty said:

dude just stop. you guys cornered the market on loons. hillary running a ped outfit in the basement of a pizza parlor? THAT is what loon means. nice try dude i but i see your LOONS in the paper every single day.dozens of them. i bet you want the us to engage in civil war as well. besides you are a trump lover. i can tell by the stench.

The Trump Derangement Syndrome is strong with this one....Trump.....Trump ......Trump. Do you need a "Safety Space" or an "Emotional Support Pet" to help with these mental issues? 

2 hours ago, aubiefifty said:

leftist loons? your side is trying to get a mentally handicapped person into office because they want the seat. they could care less how much they embarrass him or he embarrasses himself. you can throw loon out all you want but i got one word for ya.TRUMP. please make note i did not stutter................i bet you are dating mrs greene since her and her hubs split am i right?

Just another loon that post absolutely nothing of substance or facts. But lets compare since you brought it up:

2 hours ago, aubiefifty said:

leftist loons? your side is trying to get a mentally handicapped person into office because they want the seat. they could care less how much they embarrass him or he embarrasses himself. you can throw loon out all you want but i got one word for ya.TRUMP. please make note i did not stutter................i bet you are dating mrs greene since her and her hubs split am i right?

Another leftist loons post zero substance or facts! "Mentally handicapped", you do know Biden and Fetterman are Democrats?

1 hour ago, aubiefifty said:

Serious question: was Harsin ever given a chance to be successful (i.e. did he have enough buy-in and support at any point in time)?

It's 50/50, Harsin was seriously undermined by a booster/boosters with false accusations though a mouthpiece mod on another site that blindly regurgitate the lies publicly BUT he has done absolutely nothing to help himself.  The OL was Gus's downfall and will be Harsin also. Harsin had last season (and spring practice) to 100% know he had the worse OL in the SEC and maybe the entire country but did absolutely nothing to make it better through the transfer portal (maybe he couldn't attract them from all the bad press)

4 hours ago, homersapien said:

That's not what I said fool.

You have been comparing the cost of civil race riots to Trump supporters trying to hijack a legal election.

They have NOTHING in common and making such a comparison in an attempt to minimize an attempted overthrow by Trump is beyond insane. 

It's laughably stupid. 

You are delusional and grasping at anything to justify your twisted ideology. I will ask AGAIN: At what point did you become so unethical, immoral and loose every ounce of civility that you began to support murder and destruction of peoples personal property under the guise of "It's not about monetary damages"?

3 hours ago, homersapien said:

All of which has absolutely nothing to do with a POTUS refusing to accept the legal outcome of an election and inciting a riot consisting of his radical supporters to attack our capitol in a seditious attempt to overturn the certification of that election.

All you are doing is proving just how racist you are.

You clearly have some very serious mental issues and need professional help! In your twisted world, FACTS that you don't like or support your perverted ideology is racist, just pathetic and really sad! At what point did you become so unethical, immoral and loose every ounce of civility that you began to support murder and destruction of peoples personal property under the guise of "It's not about monetary damages"?

9 minutes ago, homersapien said:

It's not about monetary damages you fool.  It's about the nature and intent of the violence.

What's the price you put on our democracy?

BLM was started under a 100% false narrative, had absolutely nothing to do with "democracy" and all of their "leaders have proven to be complete self-enriching frauds! Less than 0.01% of "black men" are killed by a police officer (warranted or not) and 96.5% of ALL "black men" are killed at the hands of someone that is black, were is the REAL problem? Do you think "monetary damages" are important and relative to the HUNDREDS of small business owners that lost EVERYTHING they worked the whole live to achieve?

VIOLENCE: BLM riots 20+ murders, J6 (0) zero; ............ BLM riots 2,037 police officers assaulted, J6 140 police officers assaulted

12 hours ago, AURex said:

 

Harsin will serve out this season with Auburn and he will be fired.

Harsin has banked MILLIONS of dollars and will be due MILLIONS more after he is fired.

Harsin will hop on the first plane to Idaho, buy a million dollar home/estate, and spend the rest of his life in luxury hunting and fishing, never again stepping on a football sideline.

After he's terminated, call me out if I am wrong. I'll gladly eat crow.

 

TODAY is the cross roads for AU's football program for the near future. If Harsin isn't fired today, AU will loose anther recruiting class, loose more ground with the top programs, comfortably rest in the Vandy levels of the SEC and set the program back another year. Firing him today gives the CHANCE of salvaging this recruiting class, offer renewed hope and send a clear message AU won't accept this performance and start looking ahead to the future.

22 hours ago, homersapien said:

It's not about monetary damages you fool.  It's about the nature and intent of the violence.

What's the price you put on our democracy?

Let's play your SELECTIVE twisted relational: (and omitted close to 2 Billion dollars in damage by BLM riots that was private people's personal property and their livelihood)

VIOLENCE: BLM riots 20+ murders, J6 (0) zero; ............ BLM riots 2,037 police officers assaulted, J6 140 police officers assaulted

5 hours ago, homersapien said:

Well speaking of a twisted, distorted world, it has been YOU who has been comparing the two completely unrelated events, and have been from the beginning.

You are trying to draw equivalence or association between two events what are totally unrelated to each other in participates, motivations and intent. 

It's insane.  The fact you keep making it, makes you look like a complete fool.    

Excuses, Excuses! So.........Is (0) ZERO murders worse than 20+? a few hours of rioting worse than 7 MONTHS leftist supported rioting? no small business were destroyed worse than hundreds in many cities? one federal building damaged much worse than 150+ in multiple cities? 1.5 million is damages much worse than close to 2 billion in damage? 140 officers assaulted worse than 2,037 assaulted in multiple cities? Please, share with the group more of your selective fake outrage only when a (D) isn't involved?

3 hours ago, icanthearyou said:

But, both wrongs were committed by the same side.

First, right wing groups infiltrated and, promoted violence during otherwise peaceful protests.

Second, right wing groups ransack the capitol and, blame BLM and Antifa.

Your post was pure garbage.

Only in your twisted wrapped distorted leftist world would you attempt to compare and justify that (0) ZERO murders are worse than 20+, a few hours of rioting is worse than 7 MONTHS leftist supported rioting, no small business were destroyed is worse than hundreds in many cities, one federal building damaged is much worse than 150+ in multiple cities, 1.5 million is damages is much worse than close to 2 billion in damage, 140 officers assaulted is worse than 2,037 assaulted in multiple cities

3 minutes ago, Mikey said:

What has that got to do with Hudson's success at his next school?

By the time one calculates the cumulative effect of 20 scholarship players jumping ship, there's no telling just how many wins walked away from our program. You can bet it was more than a few.

I see you've still till got the Gus Dissociative Disorder controlling your brain. If you're truly in Key West, several days of good salt water fishing might help you clear your thoughts and then you'll be able to move on.

Why are you now defecting to 20 scholarships? The SUBJECT is Hudson (stay focused), first: do you really think his grand total of 7 REC (that is assuming he even gets them) would have helped AU this year? Second: do you really think he would have even got the 7 targets with the worst OL in college football attempting to protect an inexperienced QB?

5 minutes ago, Mikey said:

That tends to happen when a player doesn't even dress out for the first several games.

Do you honestly think ANY WR would add any value to this offense with arguably the worst OL in college football? (your blind Gus protection is still on display) So, if he was still at AU he would have dressed more and had more catches?

On 7/13/2022 at 1:16 PM, icanthearyou said:

But, but,,,     the violent protesters are all Antifa and BLM.

 

https://www.justsecurity.org/70497/far-right-infiltrators-and-agitators-in-george-floyd-protests-indicators-of-white-supremacists/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/23/oregon-portland-pro-trump-protests-violence-texts

https://www.complex.com/life/2020/07/white-supremacists-infiltrated-black-lives-matter-protest-in-richmond-instigate-riots

But, but, but.....You are trying to defend the indefensible purely because of twisted ideology (two wrong doesn't make a right)

1 hour ago, ThurstontheWelshCorgi said:

4 receptions 121 yards 2 td's in a 70-13 win.

Kobe was a loss for au for sure

Kobe has a grand total of 7 REC (4 against Temple last night) for the season. 

6 hours ago, homersapien said:

Yeah, Scientific American is known for publishing "radical leftist garbage".  You betcha.

You didn't even read it did you?

You are obviously not interested in "answers", which are readily available to anyone with the intelligence to understand the science.  Obviously you don't have that intelligence.

Bottom line, I don't care what you believe.  You can believe AGW is a hoax if you are determined to do so.  The rest of the world won't care and I - for one - am not going to waste any more of my time on ignorant fools like you.

What is the weather cults party line today: (please confirm the leftist loons worship today)

1. Evil man is destroying the ozone?

2. "Global Cooling" as the settle "Peer reviewed" worship at the first earth day?

3. Maybe "Global Warming" as the settle "Peer reviewed" worship at the first earth day?

4. Non-committal "Climate Change" as the settle "Peer reviewed" worship at the first earth day? (ie..general weather change as has happened through history)

6 hours ago, Leftfield said:

Please list these predictions.

1. 1967: Dire Famine Forecast By 1975
2. 1969: Everyone Will Disappear In a Cloud Of Blue Steam By 1989 (1969)
3. 1970: Ice Age By 2000
4. 1970: America Subject to Water Rationing By 1974 and Food Rationing By 1980
5. 1971: New Ice Age Coming By 2020 or 2030
6. 1972: New Ice Age By 2070
7. 1974: Space Satellites Show New Ice Age Coming Fast
8. 1974: Another Ice Age?
9. 1974: Ozone Depletion a ‘Great Peril to Life (data and graph)
10. 1976: Scientific Consensus Planet Cooling, Famines imminent
11. 1980: Acid Rain Kills Life In Lakes (additional link)
12. 1978: No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend (additional link)
13. 1988: Regional Droughts (that never happened) in 1990s
14. 1988: Temperatures in DC Will Hit Record Highs
15. 1988: Maldive Islands will Be Underwater by 2018 (they’re not)
16. 1989: Rising Sea Levels will Obliterate Nations if Nothing Done by 2000
17. 1989: New York City’s West Side Highway Underwater by 2019 (it’s not)
18. 2000: Children Won’t Know what Snow Is
19. 2002: Famine In 10 Years If We Don’t Give Up Eating Fish, Meat, and Dairy
20. 2004: Britain will Be Siberia by 2024
21. 2008: Arctic will Be Ice Free by 2018
22. 2008: Climate Genius Al Gore Predicts Ice-Free Arctic by 2013
23. 2009: Climate Genius Prince Charles Says we Have 96 Months to Save World
24. 2009: UK Prime Minister Says 50 Days to ‘Save The Planet From Catastrophe’
25. 2009: Climate Genius Al Gore Moves 2013 Prediction of Ice-Free Arctic to 2014
26. 2013: Arctic Ice-Free by 2015 (additional link)
27. 2014: Only 500 Days Before ‘Climate Chaos’
28. 1968: Overpopulation Will Spread Worldwide
29. 1970: World Will Use Up All its Natural Resources
30. 1966: Oil Gone in Ten Years
31. 1972: Oil Depleted in 20 Years
32. 1977: Department of Energy Says Oil will Peak in 1990s
33. 1980: Peak Oil In 2000
34. 1996: Peak Oil in 2020
35. 2002: Peak Oil in 2010
36. 2006: Super Hurricanes!
37. 2005 : Manhattan Underwater by 2015
38. 1970: Urban Citizens Will Require Gas Masks by 1985
39. 1970: Nitrogen buildup Will Make All Land Unusable
40. 1970: Decaying Pollution Will Kill all the Fish
41. 1970s: Killer Bees!

Update: I’ve added 9 additional failed predictions (via Real Climate Science) below to make it an even 50 for the number of failed eco-pocalyptic doomsday predictions over the last 50 years.

42. 1975: The Cooling World and a Drastic Decline in Food Production
43. 1969: Worldwide Plague, Overwhelming Pollution, Ecological Catastrophe, Virtual Collapse of UK by End of 20th Century
44. 1972: Pending Depletion and Shortages of Gold, Tin, Oil, Natural Gas, Copper, Aluminum
45. 1970: Oceans Dead in a Decade, US Water Rationing by 1974, Food Rationing by 1980
46. 1988: World’s Leading Climate Expert Predicts Lower Manhattan Underwater by 2018
47. 2005: Fifty Million Climate Refugees by the Year 2020
48. 2000: Snowfalls Are Now a Thing of the Past
49.1989: UN Warns That Entire Nations Wiped Off the Face of the Earth by 2000 From Global Warming
50. 2011: Washington Post Predicted Cherry Blossoms Blooming in Winter

37 minutes ago, homersapien said:

Again, it's not my job to educate you. It's your job to educate yourself.  And you are clearly ignorant about AGW. 

And as I said earlier, (which you apparently didn't read):

"Rather than taking my time to educate you on every point, I am going to refer you to a single site that will do so, if only you are willing to learn the scientific facts and history instead of the propaganda you've been feeding on.

Did you go to the site I recommended?

https://skepticalscience.com/

Please note it specifically addresses all the myths and misconceptions of deniers such as yourself.  Also note that everything is referenced.

Finally, you are not interested in learning.  You need only to google "Gobal cooling controversy" to quickly obtain articles which explain (debunk) your first point (it wasn't a "question" it was an ignorant statement:

 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-the-global-cooling-story-came-to-be/

 

How the "Global Cooling" Story Came to Be

Nine paragraphs written for Newsweek in 1975 continue to trump 40 years of climate science. It is a record that has its author amazed

BOSTON – Temperatures have plunged to record lows on the East Coast, and once again Peter Gwynne is being heralded as a journalist ahead of his time. By some.

Gwynne was the science editor of Newsweek 39 years ago when he pulled together some interviews from scientists and wrote a nine-paragraph story about how the planet was getting cooler.

Ever since, Gwynne's "global cooling" story – and a similar Time Magazine piece – have been brandished gleefully by those who say it shows global warming is not happening, or at least that scientists – and often journalists – don't know what they are talking about.

Fox News loves to cite it. So does Rush Limbaugh. Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla., has quoted the story on the Senate floor.

Gwynne, now 72, is a bit chagrinned that from a long career of distinguished science and technology reporting, he is most remembered for this one story.

"I have, in fact, won prizes for science writing," he said, with just a whiff of annoyance, in an interview this week.

His April 28, 1975 piece has been used by Forbes as evidence of what the magazine called "The Fiction of Climate Science." It has been set to music on a YouTube video. It has popped up in a slew of finger-wagging blogs and websites dedicated to everything from climate denial to one puzzling circuit of logic entitled "Impeach Obama, McCain and Boehner Today."

From the latest crop:

Lou Dobbs on Fox News: "This cycle of science… if we go back to 1970, the fear then was global cooling. "

Rush Limbaugh: "I call [global warming] a hoax… A 1975 Newsweek cover was gonna talk about the ice age coming. So they're really confused how to play it."

Sean Hannity on Fox News: "If you go back to Time Magazine, they actually were proclaiming the next ice age is coming, now it's become global warming… How do you believe the same people that were predicting just a couple decades ago that the new ice age is coming?"

Donald J. Trump: "This very expensive global warming bull**** has got to stop. Our planet is freezing.…"

Most of the time, Gwynne, who still writes on technology and science from his home in Cape Cod, Mass., takes it good-naturedly.

"It's part of the game, once you get from science to politics, that's the way it's played," he said. "I just hope people don't think I think that way."

And still, Gwynne notes of his story, "I stand by it. It was accurate at the time."

The story observed – accurately – that there had been a gradual decrease in global average temperatures from about 1940, now believed to be a consequence of soot and aerosols that offered a partial shield to the earth as well as the gradual retreat of an abnormally warm interlude.

Some climatologists predicted the trend would continue, inching the earth toward the colder averages of the "Little Ice Age" from the 16th to 19th centuries.

"When I wrote this story I did not see it as a blockbuster," Gwynne recalled. "It was just an intriguing piece about what a certain group in a certain niche of climatology was thinking."

And, revisionist lore aside, it was hardly a cover story. It was a one-page article on page 64. It was, Gwynne concedes, written with a bit of over-ventilated style that sometimes marked the magazine's prose: "There are ominous signs the earth's weather patterns have begun to change dramatically..." the piece begins, and warns of a possible "dramatic decline in food production."

"Newsweek being Newsweek, we might have pushed the envelope a little bit more than I would have wanted," Gwynne offered.

But the story was tantalizing enough that other variations – somewhat more nuanced – were written by the New York Times and National Geographic, among others. The theory picked up support from some pretty reputable scientists: the late, esteemed Stephen Schneider of Stanford endorsed a book on the issue.

But there also was a small but growing counter-theory that carbon dioxide and other pollutants accompanying the Industrial Age were creating a warming belt in the atmosphere, and by about 1980 it was clear that the earth's average temperature was headed upward.

Even today, "there is some degree of uncertainty about natural variability," acknowledged Mark McCaffrey, programs and policy director of the National Center for Science Education based in Oakland, Calif. "If it weren't for the fact that humans had become a force of nature, we would be slipping back into an ice age, according to orbital cycles."

But earth's glacial rhythms are "being overridden by human activities, especially burning fossil fuels," McCaffrey noted. The stories about global cooling "are convenient for people to trot out and wave around," he said, but they miss the point:

"What's clear is we are a force of nature. Human activity – the burning of fossil fuels and land change – is having a massive influence. We are in the midst of this giant geoengineering experiment."

And, Gwynne protested: "I wrote this in 1975!"

Born in England, Gwynne has written for a slew of American and foreign outlets. He left Newsweek in 1981, he ran Technology Review at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, covered space for High Technology, worked for The Scientist in Washington, moved to Hong Kong to run Asia Technology for Dow Jones, and returned to the United States to freelance in 1994.

He remains the North American correspondent for Physics World, based in England, from which perspective he views the "weird and wonderful" American relationship with science. "It's been American science and scientists – particularly NASA – that showed the climate is changing," he noted. Yet, unlike in most of Europe, American politicians remain divided over climate science.

The unsavory afterlife of his 1975 story clearly has not soured his journalistic fervor. "I've been able to write for a lot of different audiences, physicists, engineers and the general public," Gwynne said. "I've been willing to accept that some of that is misused and misinterpreted."

By and large, he added, the U.S. science press has done "a pretty good job" of covering climate change. But "the political press doesn't check. It tends to do 'on the one hand, on the other hand.' A lot of reporters simply will not go into issues like global warming with any understanding that the sides are not equal."

Journalists should not ignore climate deniers, he cautioned. "You have to give all sides a fair hearing." But that does not mean they have to be treated equally "if they don't have the data." To do so, he said, is false balance "that leaves readers out on a limb."

"Your job as a journalist is to give each side its best shot," said Gwynne. Even if the ammunition is four decades old.

This article originally appeared at The Daily Climate, the climate change news source published by Environmental Health Sciences, a non-profit media company.

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Obviously you have no real interest in educating yourself to the facts.  You would rather cherry pick from the universe of bull**** to support your (pre-determined) political view on anything and everything.

Speaking of which, where have you been over the last couple of decades?  Denialism is so passe'.   That ship sailed long ago.  You hardly even hear about anyone denying AGW at this point.  You are in the same company of morons who actually believe the crap from QAnon.

Everyone is ignorant about one subject or another.  There's no shame in ignorance.  What you should be ashamed of is making no effort to educate yourself. 

You are choosing to remain ignorant, so why should I make any effort to educate you when you're not willing to be educated?  It's a total waste of my time. 

And, STILL didn't answer the questions. Typical leftist loon copy/paste radical leftist garbage! There have been 41 major "Weather Cult" prediction in the last 50 years and every single one has been WRONG, Why?

On 10/3/2022 at 10:35 AM, icanthearyou said:

I think that is a highly debatable assertion.

I have both "home owners" and "Flood" on a coastal Florida island, How is this debatable? 

On 10/2/2022 at 11:46 AM, icanthearyou said:

The structures built on the coast are essentially uninsurable.  We are all subsidizing the individuals who own these properties. 

WRONG AGAIN!

2 hours ago, homersapien said:

So much ignorance, so little time.

(And it's not like these myths and fallacies haven't already been addressed many times on this forum. )

It's obvious you get your information from political and/or "deniers".

Rather than taking my time to educate you on every point, I am going to refer you to a single site that will do so, if only you are willing to learn the scientific facts and history instead of the propaganda you've been feeding on.

Please note it specifically addresses all the myths and misconceptions of deniers such as yourself.  Also note that everything is referenced.

https://skepticalscience.com/

 

Yet, YOU DIDN'T answer one question? Enlighten the group by answering any of the questions with FACTS?

12 minutes ago, homersapien said:

Well let me explain since you don't get it.

The BLM riots resulted from a few grass root demonstrations - of which there were thousands - got out of hand.  It's nothing new to this country there have been many such violent reactions in the past.  

And even though most of the country had empathy for justifiable reaction against blatant racially-motivated violence, particularly from LEOs, very few people supported any consequential violence. (So that part of your little chart is a blatant lie.)

On the other hand,  The Jan 6. riot was perpetuated by hundreds - if not thousands - of hard core Trump supporters accepting and reacting to his lie that the election was stolen from him.  It was a clearly illegal and seditious act of violence against our legislature for the express purpose of preventing the lawful transfer of power, a tradition that is the foundation of our - and any other - democracy.

It was a direct attack or our democracy and our country.

To make a direct comparison between such disparate events only illustrates just how thoughtless and ignorant you are.

Typical deflection of the FACTS!!!!! The BLM was 100% coordinated, organized and supported by radical leftist and Democrats, the loss of life and destruction was CLEARLY pointed out! Most of the country was outraged by the nightly destruction witness and the complete lawlessness, you are living in a very small bubble

19 minutes ago, I_M4_AU said:

As Brandon would say; come on man; 

Late on the night of July 18, 1969, a black Oldsmobile driven by U.S. Senator Edward Kennedy plunged off the Dike Bridge on the tiny island of Chappaquiddick, off Martha’s Vineyard, landing upside down in the tidal Poucha Pond. The 37-year-old Kennedy survived the crash, but the young woman riding with him in the car didn’t. Though newspaper headlines at the time identified her simply as a “blonde,” she was 28-year-old Mary Jo Kopechne, a respected political operative who had worked on the presidential campaign of Senator Kennedy’s brother, Robert Kennedy.

Kennedy later claimed he dove repeatedly “into the strong and murky current” to try and find Kopechne before making his way back to the cottage. He then drove back to the scene with his cousin, Joseph Gargan, and aide Paul Markham, who both tried in vain to reach Kopechne. But rather than report the accident to the police at that time, Kennedy returned to his hotel in Edgartown. As a result, Mary Jo Kopechne remained underwater for some nine hours until her body was recovered the next morning.  

https://www.history.com/news/ted-kennedy-chappaquiddick-incident-what-really-happened-facts

 

Additionally, he called the family lawyer MANY hours before contacting the police, facts to leftist loons are completely irrelevant if it doesn't support their twisted ideology!

Just now, keywest said:

Barney Franks says that isn't anything.................I got caught in a car on the streets of Washington DC at night with a male prostitute and the leftist loons still voted for me 

Marion Barry say hold on................I got caught smoking crack in a hotel room with a crackhead prostitute and the leftist loons still voted for me too!

6 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

he had an accident that cost a life. and people say he abandoned her right? no one was there so how would anyone know? go polish your gogo boots........

Barney Franks says that isn't anything.................I got caught in a car on the streets of Washington DC at night with a male prostitute and the leftist loons still voted for me 

4 minutes ago, aubiefifty said:

he had an accident that cost a life. and people say he abandoned her right? no one was there so how would anyone know? go polish your gogo boots........

The timeline is WELL KNOWN, keep making excuses!