GreenTiger

6 hours ago, AUSCalum87 said:

Have no idea. I just don’t understand the background check process in the first place when it comes to this. You would think before you even get them on campus or visit with a prospect the first thing you would do is to make sure you have the same major as the prospect has or the recruit is making good grades, but it happens more often than not, and it seems the Auburn basketball staff continuously gets blindsided by these guys. It doesn’t make sense honestly.

Academic department leaders (Deans, Department Chairs etc) are who hold the power and in many instances are the last to be included in conversations by the athletic directors and coaches. At least that was my experience in higher ed 

Outside of recruiting some high school players CHF failed last year. I’ve never been more disinterested in Auburn football before last season. Whether realistic expectations or not 7 wins with “his guys” is in my view is another failed season. 

1 hour ago, AU-24 said:

I see, so privilege made him number three in the Heisman Trophy voting, the number two all-time passing yards leader in NCAA history and the overall number 12 pick in the NFL draft. It was all privilege. 

Are you actually trying to argue that Bo’s upbringing had equal opportunities for advancement and development as his peers on the field??? 

Coaches and the systems they create for their team matter. They matter a lot. 

Good for Bo! Hope he does well in a very competitive league. 

I hope AU admin and current staff look at this and see how they can improve and get our players in to the first round of the draft. 

5 hours ago, cbo said:

There is no loyalty on either side. I get if you don't like that. Just remember it goes both ways. 

Folks need to be reminded of this. It’s been a lopsided business up until recently. 

I have hard time believing that at this point the portal has someone more productive than Fair. Consideration with WR leaving should be given towards the lack of QB production and the promised time given to the big money TF . 

Miss some Fiddy. 

3 hours ago, Zeek said:

Hard for him when he didn't know whether or not he would get to play last year and our play calling was abhorrent. I agree he needs to step it up but there were a lot of excuses for his performance last year.

Seemed to perform fine as a TF and backup. He’s had 3 years in the system. 

11 minutes ago, Mikey said:

Either running backs Cobb or Alston leaving would be a kick in the teeth. Battie or Jackson, not so much.

Personally would prefer to keep Cobb, Alston and Battie. JH just didn’t take the next step last year as many thought he would 

38 minutes ago, keeperoftheplains said:

I don't like players "taking their talents to South Beach" when they encounter adversity.  Call me old school.  Call me out of touch.  Call me a cab.  I'll own any of those labels and more.

Damn! Have you never made a decision that would probably give you more opportunities in life??? 

8 hours ago, AuCivilEng1 said:

He’s definitely allowed to tell his story. But I don’t understand the value in telling the world, you didn’t even want to go to Auburn. Seems like the kind of thing that could be omitted in the story. 

He said he wanted the best path toward a BCS appearance and Auburn had a heavy senior team. I didnt take it as he didn’t want to go 

7 hours ago, WillMunny said:

And hopefully Tre will come back now.

Should be some extra $$$ for him now 

4 hours ago, gravejd said:

Bruce is struggling hard to manage the roster in the NIL era. Hope he can figure it out. Brand new team each year stinks. 

I’m not sure that is entirely true. Maybe true with PGs but Bruce has got some high quality transfers as of late 

I’m encouraged by the receiving room and its improvement. Lewis could get a lot of targets given Cam will get a lot of attention from the defense 

The uphill climb continues. Hopefully Cam doesn’t transfer and CHF takes a big step forward in his ability to coach 

Well that was fun! 

Meh. 

41 minutes ago, JuscAUse! said:

Saban hasn't quit complaining about it . He just quit because of it. 

I don’t know him and so I’m not sure why he retired. Whining or not… It did appear that he was effective at putting a solid staff together as @cbo mentions as a valuable piece to success and why I made my point attached to his statement. Thanks for the response! 

8 hours ago, cbo said:

Maybe the real advantage will go to the coach who quits whining about it and focuses on effective management of his large staff and budget. 

Bingo! Saban was brilliant at creating the analyst rehabilitation program at UA.  

12 hours ago, aucom96 said:

You're dodging. Is there a significant monetary value to what college athletes were getting pre-NIL to play major sports? Obviously, they placed value on it or the sport would not have thrived from lack of participation. It isn't college football's fault that the NFL and to a lesser extent, NBA don't have the instant out of school developmental employment that baseball has. 

They can profit off their likeness now. Good. But the door has been left wide open to something that will benefit no one. I don't really care how much time you've spent working with student athletes. When the scholarships are no longer there and the booster money starts drying up from diminishing returns at these schools, I can promise you what they used to have won't seem so valueless anymore. 

Not dodging. And if you stopped repeating yourself and read my previous posts you would know that 

Brian Harsin still getting paid by Auburn 

I gave your post the sad emoji because it is sad to see Auburn athletics overall remain mediocre. 

2 hours ago, aucom96 said:

What does "boomers" have to do with anything? Does a college tuition have a monetary value? Yes or no? Does food, board, training, coaching, national broadcast exposure plus a lot of other monetary benefits disclosed and undisclosed have monetary value? 

Now they get to fully participate in a "business". Part of that "business" is a product that people want to invest in and consume. The more this wild west show continues in college football, that product IS GOING to become less attractive and that will effect the money available both from boosters and those wanting to spend money for these player's likeness. It has nothing to do with boomers and it has nothing to do with your position with a university. 

Well clearly you have spent a lot of time working with student athletes and fully understand their position and what they place value on. 

8 hours ago, aucom96 said:

I think there's this prevailing attitude of fat cats versus poor, innocent athletes and that was never true.

Were you a D1 athlete? But to counter a portion of your argument… there is another prevailing attitude that somehow there were these generous “benefits” to having a athletic scholarship and while it’s easy for a bunch of boomers to believe that it doesn’t seem to resonate with those actually experiencing the “benefits”. Side note… I was a college professor/ department chair at a small university for 15 years and have worked with hundreds of student athletes. 

18 hours ago, aucom96 said:

The players benefitted from a transaction where they got a free education of considerable value, free training, facilities, food, room and board also of considerable value and a forum to showcase their abilities to a professional industry at no charge to them. All of the above is still expected in addition to professional level pay with no contracts, terms or conditions. Eventually, either these players are going to find themselves in a professional employment infrastructure or we're going to continue this chaotic state we're in now, which over time, will result in bad football, lack of parity, reduced fan interest and subsequently, less pay available to these players. The golden goose will die and they can ply their trade with the Birmingham Stallions or their city semi-pro team for minimum wage. 

Regardless, the product that gave us NIL will ultimately be destroyed by NIL. 

Yes. Players benefited. No debate. But clearly the players and the courts did not see the transaction as fair. Does this have negative implications for the sport??? Of course. Did the former system have issues??? Absolutely. 

Were the former transactional benefits limited and lop sided???? Absolutely and it needed addressing. Are the current changes fair and have they fixed the problems??? Probably depends on who you ask