AURaptor 1,126 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 1984 Newsweek Poll: Walter Mondale beating Ronald Reagan by 18 points red state ^ Posted on Wednesday, June 25, 2008 22:01:10 by maccaca There's a little gem of Newsweek's embarrasing polling history buried under the perpetual poll sucker Howard Fineman's latest piece. http://www.newsweek.com/id/143258/output/print But nothing like in 1984. That was the most embarrassing example of the latter kind of survey. It predates PSR but remains seared into our institutional memory. The day the Democratic convention ended in San Francisco in 1984, the Newsweek poll showed Walter Mondale 18 points ahead of President Ronald Reagan. Mondale ended up getting clobbered, 49 states to one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin5 20 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 In 1984 Alabama beat Auburn, A lot has change since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,126 Posted June 26, 2008 Author Share Posted June 26, 2008 Wtf does the Iron Bowl have to do w/ Presidential elections ? Or opinion polls geared to MAKE news, not report it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,661 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I got hammered yesterday for making "excuses" relating to past history. Somet things never change. It's JUNE!!!!! Not November. A lot will happen between now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autiger4life 3 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Wtf does the Iron Bowl have to do w/ Presidential elections ? Or opinion polls geared to MAKE news, not report it ? About as much to do with it as a poll from 1984 to polling today. Polling methods have changed a lot in 24 years, not to mention it was taken right after the convention which always gives you a bump and even more of a bump 20 years ago because the conventions were more important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,126 Posted June 26, 2008 Author Share Posted June 26, 2008 Wtf does the Iron Bowl have to do w/ Presidential elections ? Or opinion polls geared to MAKE news, not report it ? About as much to do with it as a poll from 1984 to polling today. Polling methods have changed a lot in 24 years, not to mention it was taken right after the convention which always gives you a bump and even more of a bump 20 years ago because the conventions were more important. No, polls are polls, and they'll get Obama as wrong as they did Mondale. WDE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autiger4life 3 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 No, polls are polls, and they'll get Obama as wrong as they did Mondale. Oh polls are polls? Well let me take a quick poll real quick. Yup that is wierd, here is the results for if we elected a president now: Obama: 75% Ron Paul: 25% Polls are Polls. I can't believe that McCain won't get any votes. Honestly man, polls are polls, they can be changed, manipulated, skewed, and polling methods have changed a good bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin5 20 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I'm glad autiger4life understands. But point taken Raptor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnaldoabru 11 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 I got hammered yesterday for making "excuses" relating to past history. Somet things never change. It's JUNE!!!!! Not November. A lot will happen between now and then. Like a terrotist attack McCain's people keep hoping for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autiger4life 3 Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Like a terrotist attack McCain's people keep hoping for. I hope that was sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,126 Posted June 26, 2008 Author Share Posted June 26, 2008 I got hammered yesterday for making "excuses" relating to past history. Somet things never change. It's JUNE!!!!! Not November. A lot will happen between now and then. Like a terrotist attack McCain's people keep hoping for. Actually, Hillary said a terrorist attack would help McCain first. Nice try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger88 934 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 Polls are meaningless at this point. Even polls taken immediately before elections are often greatly flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAG-91 1,483 Posted June 27, 2008 Share Posted June 27, 2008 ...and you have to make the basic assumption that the people are actually telling the truth when they answer a question and that the poll is obtained using appropriate sampling techniques. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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