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On 2/26/2023 at 12:35 AM, WarEagle1982 said:

Yes.  Yellow Jackets.  Collis Campbell came out of there.

I played with Colis (how he spelled it). He was one year ahead of me. We went 8-2 and missed the playoffs, but something like 11 guys on that team played college ball somewhere. Colis was a monster, and our QB Rodney Jarmon signed with Bama but got into bad stuff and wound up coming home.

On 2/14/2023 at 11:26 AM, augolf1716 said:

The Muscle Shoals game was 69 I was hurt and couldn't play in the game. Yep that broke our winning steak of 44 games and still haunts my best friend to this day who fumbled to let them score the winning TD. He later went to Auburn on a Football scholarship.

And yes the stadium is like a small college and  was packed for games usually around 10,000 to 12,000 fans back then. We had some good teams

Kids from Russellville threw rocks at our bus after the game. That'd be 1981, we (Coffee) won, but they had a good team. Think they went to the semi-finals.

I didn't know all this about Gargis, but I went to every game in 1972 when Colbert County won the championship. I was just 7, so I don't remember all the road trips. That team, though, had Ozzie Newsome and Thad Flannigan. (My Mom taught there.)

Played against Crain. Rough night for us. I snapped a punt over our punter's head for a TD, and I was pissed. Next time we punted, he was returning, and I had a clean shot at him as the ball was coming down. I mean, his soul was about to leave his body. He panicked and dropped the ball. I got it on one bounce at about their 33, nothing but green grass in front of me. (Some of you know the problem already.) I only made it 12 yards: he tracked me down and absolutely destroyed me. Could barely breathe. And of course, the ref started walking the ball back to where I picked it up.

But seriously, in high school, he was no Wes Neighbors. Sheesh.

Sure that’s why he went to the fraternities. 👹

Three thoughts.

1 Tech dropped the regular series when it was clear Auburn and others had moved beyond them as a program 

2 I’m sure Auburn saw some benefit in playing in Atlanta for a long time

3 The schools have less in common than they once did

I blame ESPN for a lot. When the national coverage dwarfs local coverage, all that matters is horse races: who'll make the playoff, and who'll win the Heisman. It diminishes everyone and everything else. Mississippi State had a pretty terrific year this year, but it's kind of a downer because of what didn't happen. Vandy made a ton of progress, but again nobody cares.

Also, get off my lawn.

3 hours ago, icanthearyou said:

I highly respect your decision, your feelings.

I have always loved HF as an Xs and Os coach.  His talent is undeniable.

However, I have never been able to tell the difference between him using his religion for his own purposes and, his genuine following of the teaching of Jesus.  HF may be a better actor than his is football coach.  I can't tell and, that really bothers me.

I want to like and support HF but, I want to be sure I am not simply dropping all principle for the sake of "winning".  I have never wanted Auburn to be a win at any cost institution.  There is enough of that mentality in society now.  It is ultimately destructive.  It is not only immoral/unethical but, it is the very definition of stupid.

I think this is a very dangerous hire for Auburn and,,, the real danger may lie more in football success leading to a greater institutional failure that bleeds into an already compromised practice of "Christian" faith.

I do not want to impose upon you but, I would love to know more about your thoughts.  PM me if you wish to share.  And, I thank you for what you have already shared.

Splendid reply. Thank you.

36 minutes ago, Quietmaninthecorner said:

I understand that.   But rules are rules.  They work both ways.  

There are administrators, there are employees, and there are persons outside the organization. Different rules for each category.

12 hours ago, Zeek said:

Yup. That’s it. Definitely not smart but also not the bomb shell some were pushing.

I said this on another thread. The context is active legal action and federal investigation, and he's tampering with a complainant/potential witness. In most of the business world, definitely in my neck of the academic world, that's a fireable offense. It's certainly disqualifying for a hire.

2 minutes ago, Hank2020 said:

Probably a reach on the sumation about the Culture as you are not aware if their resonse to his actions. I agree with your comments about his repercussions in the business world (depending greatly on the business though).

Regarding the culture, it's well documented that Liberty mishandled a BUNCH of Title IX allegations. And it hired an athletic director directly implicated in a BUNCH of mishandled Title IX allegations. That's what I mean by culture.

6 minutes ago, The Freak said:

You don't know what he said.  It was not made public.  Again, there are plenty of warts on him, pick one that is actually true to point out.

The PM is public, for crying out loud.

25 minutes ago, CCTAU said:

If it were bad, show the texts. The only one I’ve seen so far is him supporting his friend. No crime there. No threats. No harassment. Just support. Is Freeze included in the lawsuit? 
 

I most likely would have just ignored her. But to each his own. Nothing illegal or even remotely <gasping> as you make it out to be. 

He is one of the most powerful men in a university, telling a former student who is among 20+ students conducting legal action against the university that she should basically shut up regarding the university's conduct in precisely the area spotlighted by the legal action. If you know an employment attorney or HR officer, run that by them.

In fact, it suggests he's part of the problem, a culture that doesn't take women's safety seriously. If it happened in the business world, he might lose his job and he'd struggle to find employment elsewhere.

14 minutes ago, MustardSeed said:

The girl that has accused him of contacting her in an attempt to silence her rape accusations has reached out to Auburn and has apparently had several meetings with federal investigators. Let’s stop calling it just “an accusation” as though it’s just some passing minor event on social media. The feds are literally looking into Hugh Freeze

https://www.outkick.com/hugh-freeze-auburn-coach-hire-liberty-chelsea-andrews-sexual-assault-email/

If you're up on the thread, you know these DMs are precisely the reason I believe Auburn should not consider Freeze. That said, nothing in the story indicates that federal investigators are looking into Freeze personally.

1 hour ago, woodford said:

I'll be honest with you man, I could not give two you know what's what ESPN, or any other corporate news company reports or thinks about a private, Baptist university in the state of Texas. They destroyed Briles' career and dragged Baylor (and every person attached to the school mostly innocent folks) because they are everything your average media member hates.

 

Shawn Oakman was innocent too. You think Schlabach and every other hack journalist who tried to destroy his career have apologized to him? Those people are scum of the earth.

I guess it's fine if you don't believe Baylor's law firm, or ESPN, or the NCAA. But then how do you decide what you do believe? I mean, it's hard to take an opinion seriously that's based on nothing that's available to us all.

44 minutes ago, woodford said:

Briles was exonerated. I'd love for Auburn to hire him.

Explain what this means. To my understanding, Briles was not exonerated at all. As I posted above, the 2021 NCAA report is damning.

5 minutes ago, Win4AU said:

I thought this to myself but it makes sense. Liberty is rehab for coaches.  I never dug into everything that happened but I think Briles and the player who were accused of sexual misconduct at Baylor were later cleared of wrong doing?  If true that’s better than Auburn’s potential new hire.

There's been a lot of allegations about Briles' termination. But I wonder if you're referring to the NCAA decision not to discipline him? 2021 reporting....

https://nypost.com/2021/08/11/ncaa-not-punishing-baylor-coach-art-briles-for-sexual-assault-allegations/

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“In each instance, when the head coach received information from a staff member regarding potential criminal conduct by a football student-athlete, he did not report the information and did not personally look any further into the matter,” the panel said. “His incurious attitude toward potential criminal conduct by his student-athletes was deeply troubling to the panel.

“As one panel member observed at the hearing when questioning the head coach’s lack of response to this information, ‘a lot of these things that we’re talking about, they’re not NCAA rules violations . . . (or) university policy violations. They’re felonies. (W)e’re talking about rapes and physical assaults,’” according to the report. “The head coach failed to meet even the most basic expectations of how a person should react to the kind of conduct at issue in this case. Furthermore, as a campus leader, the head coach is held to an even higher standard. He completely failed to meet this standard.”

It’s not about the Ole Miss violations. That’s strike one.

It’s not about the escort service, though damn. That’s strike two.

It’s not even about your daughters. The man sent a DM to a Liberty student he did not know, one of over 20 complainants in Title IX legal action against the university, basically to tell her she should shut up. You cannot have that kind of bad judgment, and bad morals, in a university. A huge strike three.

AND IT WAS THIS SUMMER.

If Liberty had any kind of integrity, which it obviously does not, he would have been disciplined severely. If I did something like that, I’d be fired in a minute—and I have tenure.

11 minutes ago, Quietmaninthecorner said:

so do all the elite coaches in the SEC.   Can he bring in more better staff and coaches than the current top 3 or 4 Head Coaches in the sec already have? 

The honest answer is, you won’t get”better,” but I’m sure he’d get as good.

If it’s Freeze, I’m done. As a professor elsewhere, I don’t want anybody like that on campus. 
 

Overlooked with Deion: he hires a terrific staff. It’s not just recruiting.

On 11/7/2022 at 4:50 PM, keywest said:

Not NO but hell NO! If we strike out on the top 3 of Kiffin, Freeze and Sanders (which I seriously doubt happens), I take a second tier chance on Jamey Chadwell

On 11/18/2022 at 11:30 AM, Mikey said:

6-5 in his one year there, after he took over a team that had losing seasons in the prior three years. Previous to that, Dye was highly successful at East Carolina. He beat several major college teams in his time there. Dye was a very good candidate, not some pie in the sky gamble.

This is a true and helpful comment. But no one thought Pat Dye was a sure thing.

Didn't I start a thread earlier? I'd consider it settling, but Rhett Lashlee.

And before anybody piles on even more, what was Pat Dye's record at Wyoming before he came to Auburn?

We played so many guys Saturday in part due to injuries.

Zac too

Wonderful spirit

Sweet win

Oh dear at QB