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  1. On 4/25/2024 at 1:43 PM, Mikey said:

    I firmly believe that any number of Wooden's teams would beat this year's U Conn, so we'll simply disagree.

    Obviously, you watched 72 UCLA beat Florida State (who finished 10th in the Final AP poll) by 5 points and are firm they would beat 24 UConn, who beat Purdue (who was consistently ranked in the Top 3 all season) by 15 points with a Center with a higher PPG (25.2) than Walton (21.1). 

    72 UCLA averaged giving up 64.3 PPG.

    24 UConn averaged giving up 63.4 PPG.

    Very similar, but UConn had to guard the 3-point shot. UCLA had the luxury not having to and could focus on guarding the paint.

    Purdue came in leading the Nation in 3-point percentage. UConn held them to 1-of-7 (14.3%). Other than Edey, they held the remainder of Purdue to 21 points and 10-of-36 (27.7%).

    To me, UConn’s length and intense defense would be the reason they would beat any team in CBB history.

  2. On 4/25/2024 at 8:15 AM, keeperoftheplains said:

    These conversations are fun thought exercises and no opinion can be proven. However, the notion that somehow the human body has evolved to become more athletic in the last 50 years is just availability bias.  The nutrition is better (in general), the equipment is better, and the medical care is much better.  But the athletes themselves?  Not so much.  One of the major reasons that modern basketball players appear to be able to do so many amazing things is because of the way the game is officiated (and by extension, coached).  When you're allowed to put your hand under the ball and move it around your handles look amazing.  A "step back jumper" was a turnover when I played.  I could go on and on.

    You don't get the sense of how good some of these teams of the past are by looking at old videos on YouTube.  The greatest college football team I ever witnessed with my own eyes was Nebraska 1995. If you ask someone younger than 40 I can almost guarantee you that will not be the answer they give. You know, because athletes.  So based on the basketball that I've watched since the 1970's, the 2024 UConn team is not in my top 5.  Your mileage may vary.

    I grew up watching Jabbar, Magic, Bird, Erving and every player from those points forward. Not youtube. The athlete from those years (the early 80s) played too stiff. 

    NBA players today are FAR more athletic than those guys, who by the way, are my idols. 

    95 Nebraska indeed was a Top 3 all-time CFB team.

     

  3. On 4/24/2024 at 6:48 PM, NCAubs said:

    If you think this UConn team was the best of all time, you should be banned. They were good and they ran through their s*** of a bracket and then beat a decent team for the championship but to crown them elite is laughable. 

    Banned for an opinion? Good thing you’re a nobody with zero power.

    They beat everyone placed in front of them, by the largest average margin of victory in the history of the tournament. No other team in history can claim it. They do.

     

  4. 18 hours ago, Mikey said:

    The elite level athletes could always compete in modern times. To think that Walton, Abdul-jabbar, Wilkes and so forth wouldn't excel in today's game isn't clear thinking. During Coach Wooden's remarkable run he had all elite players.

    Didn’t say that Walton couldn’t excel in a game against UConn. But his team as a whole wouldn’t get within 15 points of UConn. Edey’s team proved that.

  5. 6 hours ago, keeperoftheplains said:

    Wooden's 1972 team didn't lose a game and had a 30+ point margin of victory for the entire year. That team had Bill Walton and Jamaal Wilkes.

    Who beat powerhouse basketball program, FSU, for the title by 5 points. 

    Meanwhile UConn beat the two-time college bball POTY, 7’4” Edey and the #1 three-point percentage team in the nation by 15 points.

    Walton (1972) 21.1 PPG

    Edey (2024) 25.2 PPG

  6. 14 hours ago, NCAubs said:

    GOAT college team?   You lost all credibility with that.  

    14 hours ago, NCAubs said:

    GOAT?  I retract my statement about your credibility.  You’re an idiot.  

     

    Says the guy without another team in his elaborate retort.
     

    https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-basketball/news/uconn-ncaa-tournament-record-margin-victory-march-madness/ffbdf24c89ba3008151618db#:~:text=23.3%3A Average margin of victory,of 23.3 points per game.
     

     

    UConn's historically dominant NCAA Tournament, by the numbers

    23.3: Average margin of victory, the most in NCAA Tournament history

    UConn was hardly challenged in the 2024 NCAA Tournament. It set a March Madness record, winning by an average of 23.3 points per game.

    That passed Rick Pitino's 1996 Kentucky national championship team, who won each tournament game by an average of 21.1 points per contest. Those Wildcats had nine future NBA players, headlined by Tony Delk, Antoine Walker, and Walter McCarty.

    140: Total margin of victory, the most in NCAA Tournament history

    As you would assume, UConn also had the largest total margin of victory in NCAA Tournament history. The Huskies won six games by a combined 140 points, also passing 1996 Kentucky (+129).

     

  7. 5 minutes ago, MCPeePants said:

    They did lose to Kansas, Creighton, Seton Hall...

     

    4 minutes ago, keeperoftheplains said:

    These conversations are never ending because the response is always "A team from 19XX would never compete with todays athletes".  I'll just say that there were teams in the past that were much more impressive against their competition than UConn this year.  Take your pick from one of Wooden's teams with Walton or Jabbar.  Smith's team with Jordan.  UNLV with Larry Johnson and on and on.

     

    2024 UConn owns the largest margin of victory in NCAA Tourney history. There is no fact, stat or player(s) from another historical team that can trump that fact. They own it. They are arguably the GOAT.

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  8. 22 minutes ago, keeperoftheplains said:

    Maybe so.  I'll come back here and eat crow if someone posts a draft projection that has Sears going in the first round (by any site that doesn't have roll **** on the page).

    There’s a sh*t ton of PGs in the draft, so won’t go 1st. IF Sears sticks to the draft, someone is going to get a steal in the 2nd round.

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  9. 54 minutes ago, keeperoftheplains said:

    Sears is nowhere near the first round. He is small for the NBA and not super athletic. There's always someone that will say "well what about XYZ?".  I'm not saying that Sears can't make a roster in the NBA but no GM is going to spend first round money on him.  Sears might be the next Chris Paul but I really doubt it.

    My guess is that Captain Douchebag will empty the bank to keep him at UAT.

    The “XYZ” comp has been Brunson, who’s averaging 28.7 PPG this season. Sears is 6’1”. Brunson and Steph Curry are 6’2”. How is that too small?

    I could be completely wrong, but I believe Sears will make a big impact in the NBA before he’s done. He proved against UConn and everyone else he can score 20+ points on anyone.

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  10. 3 hours ago, keeperoftheplains said:

    If AH stays at pg and Sears returns then he'll see the floor a lot less than he did at AU.

    Considering that Sears played every single minute of the first AU/UA matchup, he’d get zero in that scenario. 

    What’s the latest on Sears? Seems he’d be a fool not to leave. Is he not a projected 1st rounder?

  11. On 4/12/2024 at 1:12 PM, CCTAU said:

    The good thing is if his three is off, he has a pretty quick move to the basket.

    Which we haven't had on a consistent basis at the PG since Harper. That was the first thing in his game I noticed.

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  12. On 4/12/2024 at 6:17 PM, ScotsAU said:

    He chose to go to Florida at first because we seemed to be more interested in Kodi Burns. I’m sure that was a factor when he was looking to come back to D1.

    IIRC, Cam winning the job at the conclusion of Spring practice was the only time in the Gus years that a new QB was announced at the conclusion of spring practice. The others were announced in August.

    Def a foregone conclusion it was Cam’s job to lose on 12/31/2009. 

  13. On 4/12/2024 at 3:59 PM, keeperoftheplains said:

    I always thought that Cam looked somewhat underwhelmed after the BCS championship game.  I thought it was because his was injured in the game.  In light of the information in this interview, it appears that he was just glad that it was over.  More relief than elation.

    A little of both. Plus he badly wanted to score the game-winner the play prior to Byrum’s kick. He tried bulling ahead, but the play-call was a kneel-down, thus the OL didn’t block. I was elated Byrum made the kick, but in retro, wish Dyer or Cam would have won it. I believe Cam would have won it had the play-call been a QB sneak. 

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