Tigermike 3,046 Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 If you listen close to people they will usually tell you what they are all about. What their intentions are. What their ultimate goal is. For some time now I have been struggling with the question, why are the dems so adamantly against drilling? Well last night Harry Reid laid it all out plain and simple. Watch the video and you will learn something. YouTube This isn't Maxine Waters or Artur Davis. This isn’t some fringe character, some crazy uncle that they keep hid in the attic. This is one of the Democratic Party’s leadership explaining why he and his party will never allow for extensive increases in domestic supply for coal and oil, the two leading sources of energy in the US, along with natural gas. “Coal makes us sick. Oil makes us sick. It’s global warming. It’s ruining our country, it’s ruining our world. We’ve got to stop using fossil fuel.†That would be great, except that no other mass-market solutions exist. Even nuclear power would take several years to implement, and Reid and the dims oppose nuclear power. He wants wind and solar, even though neither have mass-production capabilities and we still haven’t solved the storage problem for alternative-sourced electricity. He thinks that we’d be better off without energy at all, rather than “making us sick†by producing coal and oil to meet current demands. Feel like living like the cave men? Feel like living in tents? Feel like living without air conditioning? Vote Democratic and watch your energy bills keep skyrocketing! For that matter, vote dimocrat and watch the price of everything continue to skyrocket. Or vote Republican and get a sane energy policy instead. They at least are talking about real alternatives and real change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,660 Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 It's all about forcing more americans to depend on the government, so that the government will have more control over the people. SOCIALISM. Pretty easy to see for some of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUman43 5 Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 Why is it the neocons never bother to mention the FACT that THEIR party controlled both the White House and the Congress for over 6 years BEFORE the Democrats finally earned a SLIM majority. (not enough to overturn Bush's vetos) Did Bush or the Republicans push for a national energy policy during that time? NO! They did NOTHING but grant giant tax breaks to the huge oil companies even though those companies, many of which have drilling rights to FEDERAL LANDS which they are NOT drilling on. Did Bush or the Republicans choose to lift the Off-Shore Drilling ban by Executive Order to ease the oil Crunch? NO! Instead, they blame the Democrats for blocking it although Bush could have granted it anyway. Is the off-shore drilling and ANWR going to ease the oil Crunch? NO! It will be ten years before we realize any benefit from that move and we don't have enough refineries to handle that amount of new crude oil anyhow. What Bush and the Republicans COULD have done is to appoint a blue ribbon committee or team of the finest minds in this country to adjourn somewhere and brainstorm the issues and try and find alternative sources or energy for the future as well as choose some effective policies to ease t he burden on the American worker and family man. Did he do this? NO! The political blame game goes on by a few and most people know it makes no sense and it's just Republican politics which isn't going to work again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaGrad03 0 Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 Why is it the neocons never bother to mention the FACT that THEIR party controlled both the White House and the Congress for over 6 years BEFORE the Democrats finally earned a SLIM majority. (not enough to overturn Bush's vetos) Did Bush or the Republicans push for a national energy policy during that time? NO! They did NOTHING but grant giant tax breaks to the huge oil companies even though those companies, many of which have drilling rights to FEDERAL LANDS which they are NOT drilling on. Did Bush or the Republicans choose to lift the Off-Shore Drilling ban by Executive Order to ease the oil Crunch? NO! Instead, they blame the Democrats for blocking it although Bush could have granted it anyway. Is the off-shore drilling and ANWR going to ease the oil Crunch? NO! It will be ten years before we realize any benefit from that move and we don't have enough refineries to handle that amount of new crude oil anyhow. What Bush and the Republicans COULD have done is to appoint a blue ribbon committee or team of the finest minds in this country to adjourn somewhere and brainstorm the issues and try and find alternative sources or energy for the future as well as choose some effective policies to ease t he burden on the American worker and family man. Did he do this? NO! The political blame game goes on by a few and most people know it makes no sense and it's just Republican politics which isn't going to work again. So if Obama is elected, we should fully expect to be back to $2 gas by Feb right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermike 3,046 Posted July 2, 2008 Author Share Posted July 2, 2008 Why is it the neocons never bother to mention the FACT that THEIR party controlled both the White House and the Congress for over 6 years BEFORE the Democrats finally earned a SLIM majority. (not enough to overturn Bush's vetos) Did Bush or the Republicans push for a national energy policy during that time? NO! They did NOTHING but grant giant tax breaks to the huge oil companies even though those companies, many of which have drilling rights to FEDERAL LANDS which they are NOT drilling on. Did Bush or the Republicans choose to lift the Off-Shore Drilling ban by Executive Order to ease the oil Crunch? NO! Instead, they blame the Democrats for blocking it although Bush could have granted it anyway. Is the off-shore drilling and ANWR going to ease the oil Crunch? NO! It will be ten years before we realize any benefit from that move and we don't have enough refineries to handle that amount of new crude oil anyhow. What Bush and the Republicans COULD have done is to appoint a blue ribbon committee or team of the finest minds in this country to adjourn somewhere and brainstorm the issues and try and find alternative sources or energy for the future as well as choose some effective policies to ease t he burden on the American worker and family man. Did he do this? NO! The political blame game goes on by a few and most people know it makes no sense and it's just Republican politics which isn't going to work again. As rants go Shug, that one was nothing to be really proud of. But in no way did it address the dimocrat agenda espoused by Harry Reid. Did it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinCrimson 61 Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 Neither party has yet to produce a "sane energy policy." No real reason for them too, either. If they solved the world's problems, what would they bitch about? Honestly. There's a strong side of me that thinks that neither party is concerned about anything but getting elected. And I say that as a usual Democratic voter, too. I agree with them on most issues, but efficiency hasn't exactly been their strong point. Same applies to the GOP. Energy policy isn't the only instance of this. Take the abortion issue. They've had their opportunities to appoint anti-Roe justices, but have stubbed their toe each time. For the Democrats, they trotted out the most polarizing figure possible to promote a universal healthcare system. Years and years have passed, and you still have Republican voters making a decision based purely on abortion rights and Democrats driven by the idea of universal healthcare. Call me a tinfoil hat wearer, but my idea makes sense if you think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermike 3,046 Posted July 2, 2008 Author Share Posted July 2, 2008 Coal and oil may be making us sick...but this "do nothing Democrat Congress" is killing us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinCrimson 61 Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 Don't let the tree in front of you blind you from seeing the forest, Mike. I think you're a good guy and enjoy discussing politics with you, but your latest post in this thread amounts to nothing more than blind loyalism. Six years they were given the presidency and control of both the House and Senate. They did nothing. 18 months and the narrow Democratic majority should be capable of rounding up enough votes to overcome the oppositional President's veto? Look, I know Reid's comments were fiction and recognize that he's a dope of a majority leader, but the blame can't be shifted away to a group with little control. Giving Harry Reid a new title and Barbara Boxer a gavel isn't going to solve the world's environmental problems, especially when you understand that any meaningful legislation they support will likely be vetoed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermike 3,046 Posted July 2, 2008 Author Share Posted July 2, 2008 Don't let the tree in front of you blind you from seeing the forest, Mike. I think you're a good guy and enjoy discussing politics with you, but your latest post in this thread amounts to nothing more than blind loyalism. Six years they were given the presidency and control of both the House and Senate. They did nothing. 18 months and the narrow Democratic majority should be capable of rounding up enough votes to overcome the oppositional President's veto? Look, I know Reid's comments were fiction and recognize that he's a dope of a majority leader, but the blame can't be shifted away to a group with little control. Giving Harry Reid a new title and Barbara Boxer a gavel isn't going to solve the world's environmental problems, especially when you understand that any meaningful legislation they support will likely be vetoed. What legislation have they presented that would have led to a national energy policy? No where have you read me say our problems are only because of one party. The dims initiated the coastal no drill policy and have had enough in congress to keep it in effect. W ever had the balls to make off shore drilling a high priority. Slick Willie was never interested in an energy policy (unless it was a power nap before or after Monica.) The dims are adamantly set against any new off shore drilling. They are adamantly against drilling in ANWR. They are adamantly against any drilling from the Alabama - Florida line all the way up to the top of Maine. The Left coast? Off limits - NO DRILLING. Blame the Republicans all you want but the dims have absolutely no plan other than NO DRILLING. So if you like the dims plan get ready to shell out the $$$$$$$ because the price of gas and oil will never go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaGrad03 0 Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 I love how people say "republicans did nothing"...uh gas prices are a relatively new problem. It wasn't a "crisis" when gas was $2. I don't care what congress has, or hasn't done in the past. It's where they're willing to go now that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinCrimson 61 Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 Well, when you do nothing except blame "Slick Willie", the "dims", Monica, and tout a 30 second clip from a Senator as the official "party policy", it's hard for me to believe otherwise. You already implied that the blame should be placed on the powerless, Democratic Congress. I actually agree and disagree with different portions of both parties' ideas on this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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