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11 minutes ago, TitanTiger said:

I didn't "stop" at two bad examples.  I gave the relevant ones.  How good Ole Miss was three years before he arrived really doesn't matter when the two most recent seasons they were a combined 6-18 overall and 0-16 in the SEC.

And no one said he did things that had never been done before.  We are saying that 1) it's very hard to win big there and 2) getting to 10 wins there is almost a monumental feat.  It hadn't happened but one other time since Vaught retired for the first time in 1970.  In the last 48 years of Ole Miss football since Vaught left the second time, they've had non-winning seasons 26 of them.  

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Ole Miss was ever a powerhouse. I'm just saying Houston Nutt was 1 win away from doing the monumental feat twice in four years. Yes, the wheels fell off extraordinarily fast and HF picked it back up but the story just isn't that black and white in my opinion. Either way, I think now that the laughing emoji posters have started targeting me again I'm bailing out. Thanks for moderating the forum as always @TitanTiger

2 minutes ago, Warnugget said:

Like I said, talk away. Tell us how Matt Luke is relevant. Nobody is going to stop you.

I understand that wins is literally the only thing that matters to a lot of you. It only matters what he did while there, not what he left behind. That's fine. Oh, don't let me forget to add this: 🤣 and a 😂 and maybe a 😆

9 minutes ago, Warnugget said:

If you think that Matt Luke is relevant, then by all means, talk away. 😂

So we can discuss Freeze bringing a program back up from the ashes, but not him leaving them in ashes. Gotcha. Let's pump that sunshine baby!

1 minute ago, Zinzan said:

Look, there are good things and bad things to look at in regards to Hugh Freeze. The OP here specifically asked why he should be excited about the hire. Can’t ya’ll naysayers just let the things to be excited by stand without trying to shoot them down? There are plenty of other threads that are themed to shoot the man down. 
 

Looking at the positive, I’m expecting QB development, an improved passing game, an offensive identity, better OL recruiting, and more effort from the HC in recruiting across the board. I expect if defenses load the box and make our QB beat them, we won’t be as helpless as we have been the past couple seasons. 
 

OP asked for discussions outside of sunshine pumpers regarding HF's record and here you are requesting we do the exact opposite.

19 minutes ago, Warnugget said:

Because nobody is talking about why we should hire Houston Nutt. We’re talking about what Freeze did at Ole Miss after what he inherited. If HF had started at Ole Miss 2 years earlier then this would be a relevant conversation. As it stands, he inherited a team that hadn’t won an SEC game in 2 years. 

He's bringing up the record of Ole Miss prior to Hugh Freeze. Houston Nutt was the coach of Ole Miss prior to Hugh Freeze. That's why he's being brought up. Hey, by the way, if we want to talk about what coaches were left with, we wanna talk about the guy that came after Hugh Freeze or nah?

14 minutes ago, TitanTiger said:

Because that's not the team he inherited.  The wheels had come off and the program was in a death spiral.  Whatever Nutt achieved before, the plain fact of the matter is they went 4-8 in 2010 and 2-10 in 2011.  They went 0-8 both years in the SEC.  On what planet, given those facts, would success three years ago be relevant?

Well, you were talking in historical terms and stopped at the two bad examples. People are wanting to act like HF accomplished something never before seen at Ole Miss, yet just two seasons before he was hired it happened. 

Just now, TitanTiger said:

Couldn't be much worse than the OM team he inherited.  That program hadn't won an SEC game in 2 seasons prior to him arriving and went 4-8 and 2-10 overall in those years.  That was a total crap roster and he didn't have the transfer portal to help.

Why do you always exclude the two years they won 9 games during Nutt's tenure before Freeze?

1 minute ago, TitanTiger said:

By year four he took a program that hadn't won a conference game in two straight seasons to a 10 win season and within a fluke 4th and 25 play of playing in the SEC title game.  I don't think people appreciate how hard it is to do that at a place like Ole Miss.

Also, that Memphis team went 9-4 that year and was ranked as high as 13th at one point.  Arkansas was 8-5 and won 6 of their last 7 games, including beating us, Ole Miss and 9th ranked LSU (the latter two both on the road).  Neither of those teams were pushovers and the Arkansas game they lost by a fluke.

If we're going on moral victories, then I agree, he's had a hell of run.

1 minute ago, Eagle Eye 7 said:

Let me give you one important statistic . He beat Nick Saben in his prime at Alabama in back to back years. Almost unheard of. 🤔

And there it is.

Just now, bishoptf said:

LOL you mean like what Saban and UAT has been doing for years and nothing was done about it...I mean thats one of the things I like about him, he was doing NIL before NIL was a thing...call it what you want but if you think NO other SEC teams were doing that well then nothing I can say....

So going on the "everyone was doing it" .... what did HF accomplish with it? A 10 win season that includes losses to unraked Memphis and unranked Arkansas.

2 hours ago, Quietmaninthecorner said:

With his daughter around all the time,  it will really put a damper on any temptations.   She can handle the job, but  I think she is there to keep an eye on him.

Well if that doesn't sound pathetic lol

In the four seasons prior to HF being hired, Ole Miss won 9 games 2 times and was ranked as high as #4. Nutt's last season was terrible, but so was HF's before he was.... ya know.... told to go away.

How is Freeze going to see Caddy's Twitter message to him since Freeze had to give up his Twitter access? Totally normal!

58 minutes ago, CentralFLtiger said:

If he screws this up he is toast. 

He wouldn't be the only one.

Baggage aside, why are so many people here convinced he's going to come to AU and win? Sure, he recruited well at OM but then he got busted paying them. Paying is legal now so what else does he have to offer?

6 hours ago, abw0004 said:

Users who have donated to the forum to keep it public and free to use are given access to another side of the forum where you see the insiders' posts.  Less drama as well.  That's why you see a lot of the tenured posters not post on this side of the forum anymore and only stay on that side.

 

Ah, well that actually explains a lot about the forum these days. Thank you @abw0004

There are only a couple of coaches who can match the excitement of Caddy. So chances are the next guy is going to come off like a wet noodle.

2 hours ago, abw0004 said:

This was already said on the other side of the forum but needs to be said here to prevent people from running crazy with it:  The stuff about the Board is not true.

What is the other side of the forum?

26 minutes ago, jj3jordan said:

Why would anybody let their daughter play football at Auburn?

Can she check receivers and make an accurate back shoulder pass? If so sign her up.

OM: "do you agree to sign the extension?"

LK: "Yes"

OM: "Great here it is"

LK: "Eh I'll sign it soon"

5 minutes ago, ToomersRevenge said:

Are you being just this obtuse for a reason?

Yes. They've been trolling people like we're on Twitter since yesterday afternoon. So you'll waste your time if you get involved in these conversations.

He'd be risking a lot coming back next year. Depending on the HC, portal pickups, and continued improvement from Hunter, Tank could find his name slipping next season. Best cash in while you can.

1 minute ago, WFE12 said:

It’s the part about it being a name that surprises many that’s interesting 

Oh boy with AU's recent history it could be literally anyone lol who is UNLV's running back coach?

Well this has gotten ugly

6 minutes ago, WFE12 said:

From Hoke at On3

“I spoke to a source tonight with knowledge of how Cohen operates that said, "if Freeze is not announced in the AM, then I’m afraid it may be a name that surprises many."
 

I kinda think that's a given at this point?