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Thank you Ellitor for making the poll and the info. I think you are right about Mosley, but here's hoping for him or Mayer.

Spot on. I had forgotten about Heron, but that may be the closest in recent history. I was going all the way back to Marquis Daniels and Jamison Brewer, but I still don't think it's the right comparison.

I wish there was a way to do a poll on here, but I am curious how you guys would rank the following potential portal targets that I've seen listed here. 247 has them listed at different positions, but they can all shoot and play the wing. AJ Green - - link to ESPN stats, profile Matthew Mayer - link to ESPN stats, profile Isiaih Mosley - link to ESPN stats, profile I'd probably rank them as Mosley, Mayer, Green. With Mosley getting the nod because he could play both the 2 & 3 where we would need more help if Flanigan doesn't return to peak form. Mayer would be a close 2nd due to his size, shooting & most importantly his D, but I think he'd take some minutes from Jaylin or potentially Cardwell if Traore played more 5. Green would obviously be a sharpshooter at the 2/wing, but he seems less athletic / D oriented from what I've seen.

This video should be pinned on this thread. I'm super excited about Traore and Broome, but they obviously have huge shoes to fill (pun intended). I feel like Westry has the chance to elevate our team in a similar way as Okoro, but in more of a Samir or Canty style. I'm not sure we've had anyone like Chance since......hmmm...I'm struggling to think of someone.

Unless you have a Kessler or Broome playing behind you. No, that's true. I didn't realize that he was that highly ranked. I am curious how much of that was him and how much of that was Baylor's system. So then I am not sure what he can to raise his draft stock other than shoot lights out from 3 plus better than average typical development at his stage. P.S. Where do you get your D rating stats? P.P.S. How do I get the option to edit posts? And to be a verified member? There is probably some FAQ that I haven't found yet.

Yeah, the scouts were saying that Phillips has a very high ceiling, but still needs quite a bit of development to reach that potential (projected more as a 2 and done than a 1 and done). So Mayer would likely lead to more wins right away, but it's likely Mayer would be a 1 and done.

I think Isiaih Mosley could be the best fit out there. He is a deadly 3 pt shooter, can create his own shot, and has the height to play the 2 or the 3. Just not sure about his D. But that may be the missing piece to improve his draft stock, so you'd think AU would be attractive from that point of view. The scouts seem to think Kansas has the inside track since he played with 3 of their players before college and he has a CB on 247 to Miss. State. But I wouldn't be surprised if he gets drafted given his shooting ability.

If he's OK with not playing 30+ minutes a game, I think he'd be a great fit after watching more video of him. He could help space the floor for KD, Green, Broome, and Traore. He also seems to make hustle plays and do some of the little things needed to win. Perhaps, Pearl's system could improve his D and draft stock and that would be the main attraction. I've heard the TarHeels really want him as well to replace Manek in the stretch 4 type role, so we'll see what happens.

I see. 247 had him listed as the No. 4 PG with 100% CB to Iowa State. But 9/15 from 3 in the NIT, 18.8 ppg for the year, and 2.5 apg, makes him sound more like a sharp-shooting SG. If he can play D, then it would be a good fit. But I am guessing he may want a spot with more playing time

AJ Green as in the point guard from UNI? I still think we need a 2/3 that can hit 3's. Perhaps a Matthew Mayer if he can play the 3, a Pete Nance from Northwestern that is 6'10', has 1 year left and made 45% of his 3's last year, or maybe a Malachi Smith (from Chattanooga). Also, players like Josh Minott, Patrick Baldwin Jr or Keion Brooks would likely be too good to pass up if they don't stay in the draft, but only Baldwin seems like a great outside shooter and he'd likely be a 1st rounder, so not sure he'll come back to college.

Yep, you were right. It sounds like it was just money. When asked why he chose the Vols.... "Just how they handle their business on the basketball side," he said of what stood out on his official visit....."

Well he did commit to Will Wade the 1st time around, so I am not surprised that money is a factor. Second, from what Hoke and others are saying, we don't have the highest offer, so if he picks AU then it will be about good money now and the best opportunity for later. And if Bruce wants him, then I'll be super excited to have him on board, because I think he's a great fit. Lastly, I don't blame him. Some of the scouts on 247 suggest that he has a top 10 ceiling, but that he still needs a lot of development, or in other words, he's not a lock to be a 1 and done type prospect like Jabari. Given that he's the last 5 star available and seems to be a better shooter with a higher upside than most SFs left in the portal, he has a lot of leverage. I'm guessing a lot of people would wait it out and see if they can get as much as possible from their 1st choice. And if their 1st choice isn't competitive, it would be hard to turn away a higher offer from a strong 2nd or 3rd choice, especially if you don't plan to stick around for more than 2 years.

A blurb today on 247 on Julian Phillips: Source: https://247sports.com/college/auburn/LongFormArticle/College-basketball-recruiting-rankings-247Sports-Adam-Finkelstein-players-higher-on-187416882/#187416882_2

It's interesting that they list Mayer as a SF. I thought he played more like a stretch 4, kind of like Manek at UNC. While that makes Mayer a very attractive transfer, it seems like he would potentially overlap in skill set with Jaylin and create even more of a logjam at the 4, but perhaps I am wrong. I've only seen Mayer play once. I'm also intrigued by Keion Brooks form Kentucky and am surprised that he is not ranked higher. But his 3 pt shooting numbers look low, so he's probably not the right fit for what we need at the 3. But he had an amazing game when UK routed Kansas earlier in the year and obviously has talent.

Not sure. Mosley seems like the most likely candidate of that list due to his size and could probably play the 2 & 3. But after looking at his stats, I see why he may be a NBA draft pick. Obviously Phillips would be ideal at the 3, but I also think that Westry could play the 3 at times based on his skill set, so a person that could play both the 2 and 3 even if they were a more natural 2 may be a good fit if we don't get Phillips IMO.

We've had great success when we get the No.1 rated recruit in GA, so I'm putting Isaiah Collier on the top of the list to replace Zep after he graduates. Ja'Kobe Walter (same school as Phillips) and Justin Edwards also look the part. And it sounds like Wesley Yates is high on our board, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's a bit underrated.

same, but here is what 247 is saying and I didn't realize that he may stay in the draft. https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/LongFormArticle/College-basketball-transfer-portal-Emoni-Bates-Tyrese-Hunter-Matthew-Mayer-top-dozen-available-187243166/#187243166_5 Latest buzz: After spending the last couple of season lighting up the Missouri Valley, shooting guard Isiaih Mosley is another who has also entered the NBA Draft. Because of his ability to connect from deep and his penchant for making tough, contested shots he just may have an NBA future. However, there are questions on that level about the competition Mosley’s gotten his numbers against and his overall athleticism. He could erase many doubts with a return to school. You have to keep an eye on Kansas here. The Jayhawks have had a lot of success with players from Mosley’s summer program MoKan Elite and just won a National Championship with three of the program’s players – Christian Braun, Dajuan Harris and Ochai Agbaji – in their starting lineup and Mosley played in high school with Harris. That doesn’t mean the Jayhawks are a lock though and others like Duke, Kansas State, Louisville, Mississippi State, Oklahoma, Texas are all looking to get involved.

Likely on Traore. And there are a few shooters remaining on this transfer portal list from yesterday that I am sure that BP and crew are aware of: https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/ranking-top-25-transfers-for-2022-lsu-lands-murray-state-center-kj-williams-as-matt-mcmahon-keeps-building/ 4. Isiaih Mosley ; Old school: Missouri State - 6'5" ; 42% from 3 last year. 11. Malachi Smith ; Old school: Chattanooga , 6'4" ; 40% from 3 last year; 38% from 3 for career 17. Antoine Davis; Old school: Detroit-Mercy - 6'1" ; 24 ppg & 38% from 3 last year 18. Teddy Allen ; Old school: New Mexico State - 6'6" ; 19 ppg & 33% from 3 last year (he was at 37% the year before) 19. A.J. Green; Old school: Northern Iowa - 3 pt specialst ; 6'4" ~38% from 3 last year

I think positive predictions are still pending on who we get in the portal in terms of WRs and OL. Obviously having a couple more WRs that are threats in addition to our TEs would hopefully open things up a bit for the run game even if there are not upgrades on the OL.

It's interesting to look back at this after landing Traore and Broome. I didn't know either of those names at the end of the tourney but am stoked about both. So check on numbers 2 & 3. I do think that 1) Jaylin and Green will shoot much better this year, 2) Westry will be a better shooter than Cambridge, and 3) am curious to see how Traore shoots from 3. Hopefully we get Phillips and our spacing and shooting improves via number 4. If we don't get Phillips, then hopefully we can find another wing that is a knock down shooter. But we'll see what Bruce can do.

but was your source his dentist? or just a dental hygienist?

Good points. I think both Wendell & Zep can be 35+% shooters and I'm hoping Chance is at that level. I get the impression that he is more of a distributor and shooter than Okoro was. 247 compares him to Rodney Hood which would be closer to a scoring point guard or shooting guard. https://247sports.com/player/chance-westry-46093860/. KD is always going to be streaky, but hopefully, he can be better than last year. As long as people have to guard him beyond the 3 pt line, he'll should continue to improve overall. His shooting dropped so significantly at one point last year that it makes me think it was partially due to injury.

Agree to disagree on the Okoro-lite. I'm not sure how many TOs Okoro had, but I don't think Flanigan would have been getting some fringe 2nd round draft buzz if he didn't show some skill and grit in other areas (e.g., defense & rebounding), although I agree that 3.3 TOs is bad. Flan was also playing point or point forward at times, which can increase TOs and obviously he didn't look anything like an Okoro-lite last year and still had the TOs which is worrisome. And thanks for the intel from Hoke. If it's mainly about identity & rhythm, then perhaps starting out on the bench and playing with the 2nd group will help him find his rhythm & confidence again with less pressure to live up to that past fringe draft hype.

In all fairness, Flanigan was the best player on the team for multiple games a couple years ago, played multiple different positions, impacted the game even when he wasn't scoring, and had some draft buzz. He seemed like an Okoro-lite at that point. It's hard to know how much of success and subsequent drop-off was due to having a lot of usage on a bad team vs. loss of strength, confidence & mobility due to the injury. It also could have been partially due to team makeup & spacing. Sharife, Thor, and our 3 pt. specialists obviously gave him different spacing and opportunities than KD, Jabari & Kessler. To me, he looked smaller (strength wise), moved slower, and seemed less confident last year. But I still hold out hope that he'll be an impact player / fringe NBA draft pick if he can get back to that Okoro-lite level of play. I know he still had issues with turnovers and I thought 2 years ago that it had to do with him trying to play point before Sharife arrived, but perhaps you're right on that concern. And if so he needs to clean that up if he wants minutes IMO.

Agreed. That's why I was assuming it may be Jaylin starting based on how he was shooting in the NCAA tourney. If Traore is the better shooter, then I don't see how you can have him on the bench very long even if he plays some time at the 5 along side Jaylin.