kwagoner 214 Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 This is from a group on facebook. I think this covers sooooo many disputes and claims. I just wanted to clear up a few misconceptions about Alabama's claim to 12 national championships based on fact rather than bias. Credit is given where credit is due.To clear up confusion, the word retroactive means they went back in time to award the championship. 'TWELVE' national championships is fraudulent, nothing but pure bunk ginned up by the SID Department. Here's a rundown: 1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn't exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another incredible retroactive NC. The Associated Press Poll has been active since 1936. The AP took their final poll prior to bowl games from 1936 - 1964 and in 1966 and 1967. They took their final poll after the bowl games in 1965 and from 1968 - Current. 1926 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it! 1930 National Championship- The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system! He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933! 1934 National Championship- Alabama says they share this with two other teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus. Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first appeared in 1946! 1941 National Championship- This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year. Mississippi State won the SEC title..yet Bama claims a National title! 1961 National Championship- Finally a legitimate NC. . 1964 National Championship- While the AP did award the NC to Bama (10-1-0), Arkansas had the better record, 11-0. Alabama played Texas in their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl. 1965 National Championship- The AP gave this to Bama. That year there were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St 10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0. 1973 National Championship- AP puts Bama 4th after their bowl game loss. Bama claims a NC from the UPI poll that was taken before they met Notre Dame in the bowl game and lost. There were 3 teams with better records than Bama that year. The embarrassment of naming Alabama number one caused the UPI to name champions after bowl games. Yet Bammer has no shame in claiming it of course. 1978 National Championship- AP gives this to Alabama(11-1-0) even though USC (12-1-0) had the better record Guess who Alabama lost to that year? USC!!!!!!!!!. UPI gave the NC to USC. 1979 National Championship- Their second legitimate NC. Their first Unanimous NC. 1992 National Championship- Their third legitimate NC. Their second Unanimous NC. You can see why people ridicule Bama fans when they talk about 12 NCs. The early ones were awarded by individuals years after the games were played. These weren't consensus polls but NCs awarded by people that had their own formula for determining champions. Some NCs were given before bowl games that Bama lost. Using Alabama logic, Auburn could claim four national championships. But when Bammers brag they like to say they have twelve and Auburn has one. How silly. The NCAA recognizes 6 NCs for Bama and there are only two NCs that Bama has unanimously. You can't find an Auburn site claiming four national championships but there are plenty Bama sites claiming twelve. Debunking the Alabama National Championship myths. And for those who may disagree............ NCAA Wikipedia ESPN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssgaufan 0 Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 there was a comment made on one the espn ball games about last weeks / game, where they mentioned that had six national championships. I about hit the floor when I heard that, and I'm surprised that there wasn't some sort of trailer park riot after the bammers heard this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalensGhost 0 Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 I think this marks the eleventy-third time this information has been posted on this forum. It still hasn't sunk in. And won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otterinbham 0 Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 I think this marks the eleventy-third time this information has been posted on this forum. It still hasn't sunk in. And won't. If I won the lottery, I would buy a full-space ad in every newspaper in the state and post that writeup verbatim. And then watch the fur fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarTiger 3,909 Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 I think this marks the eleventy-third time this information has been posted on this forum. It still hasn't sunk in. And won't. of course it won't. haven't you heard, uat invented the game of football and can do no wrong. IN fact, they can do anything they want (legal or illegal) and because they are uat, its ok. Now, if others do it, then they should be flogged, but its ok for uat to do whatever they want, as long as they win. of course, the last time they got caught doing whatever they wanted, they still sucked so it doesn't always work out for them, but they continue to practice. Eventually they'll get it right again, and we'll see another 1993 season at uat. (if you know what i mean) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukeduke 8 Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 I think this marks the eleventy-third time this information has been posted on this forum. It still hasn't sunk in. And won't. If I won the lottery, I would buy a full-space ad in every newspaper in the state and post that writeup verbatim. And then watch the fur fly. I just won $5.50 in the Florida lottery, what kind of space can I buy for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyclawedtiger 206 Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 I've kept a copy of that in my car for a couple years now. When a bammer starts spouting off about "got 12" the first thing i do is to name the 12. They say they can't . I get a copy of this for them and tell them to name them now. The words that follow from them I can't print here. It's priceless. WDE!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwagoner 214 Posted October 18, 2007 Author Share Posted October 18, 2007 I think this marks the eleventy-third time this information has been posted on this forum. It still hasn't sunk in. And won't. GG, I'm somewhat new so I missed the first eleventy-two times. I think I'm make some shirts to pass out at the vs game. Front: Got Twelve? Back: No you don't. Then the original post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmnstr 0 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 I think this marks the eleventy-third time this information has been posted on this forum. It still hasn't sunk in. And won't. GG, I'm somewhat new so I missed the first eleventy-two times. I think I'm make some shirts to pass out at the vs game. Front: Got Twelve? Back: No you don't. Then the original post. whooooooooooooo caaaaaaaaaaaaares. the necks are going to claim them and even if they only have six, they have 5 more than us. this is a stupid argument, and we need to focus more on just beating them into the ground year-in and year-out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InDNo 0 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 DO NOT POST THIS ANYMORE. Every time you do, bammer claims another MNC. It is a self-defeating endeavor. InDNo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUChizad 0 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 I've seen it a billion times, and it'd be fine with me to see it a billion more. I'm holding out hope that maybe, just maybe, one day it will sink in to at least SOME uat fans. But what'll we do with that fancy restrawnt on the strip??? Rename it 6??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,499 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 You could do a search on this forum, or most other Auburn and Bama forums and it's been posted and reposted a zillion times. Locking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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