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34 minutes ago, homersapien said:

(I don't think Nola was around to witness - and remember it.)

“Segregation now... segregation tomorrow... segregation forever!”

"States Rights!"

 

Though not perfect - capitalism does indirectly assist with improving this. Haley caught hell for removing the confederate symbol from SC but she did it for job and population growth. BMW and tech firms had expressed reluctance to further grow there without its removal.  Companies hate controversy and bad pub.  If an area doesn’t have access to good paying jobs with an opportunity for promotion - talent inevitably moves where there is. So if an area insists on being repressive because that’s how it’s been for a hundred years - enjoy a diminishing population and working at the Dairy Queen.

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19 hours ago, auburnatl1 said:

Though not perfect - capitalism does indirectly assist with improving this. Haley caught hell for removing the confederate symbol from SC but she did it for job and population growth. BMW and tech firms had expressed reluctance to further grow there without its removal.  Companies hate controversy and bad pub.  If an area doesn’t have access to good paying jobs with an opportunity for promotion - talent inevitably moves where there is. So if an area insists on being repressive because that’s how it’s been for a hundred years - enjoy a diminishing population and working at the Dairy Queen.

That is a profound observation.  Thanks for bringing it up.

From a partisan (progressive) perspective, it is encouraging to note how progressive attitudes/movements can effect change even outside of the political/legislative arena. One could say that "political correctness" can produce a societal benefit.

It also brings to mind the iconic saying: "The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice".

It's not an insignificant benefit of free market capitalism, which can encourage positive societal change as well as economic growth.  I suppose you could look at it as the "flip side" of boycotting as a political statement.

 

 

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1 hour ago, homersapien said:

That is a profound observation.  Thanks for bringing it up.

From a partisan (progressive) perspective, it is encouraging to note how progressive attitudes/movements can effect change even outside of the political/legislative arena. One could say that "political correctness" can produce a societal benefit.

It also brings to mind the iconic saying: "The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice".

It's not an insignificant benefit of free market capitalism, which can encourage positive societal change as well as economic growth.  I suppose you could look at it as the "flip side" of boycotting as a political statement.

 

 

Capitalism ultimately has several downsides from a progressive perspective. The biggest being the disparity of income between executives and the workforce. However, for all its “fair” faults - as an economic system that is purely consumer demand driven, it tends to support/follow most societal initiatives.

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20 hours ago, auburnatl1 said:

Capitalism ultimately has several downsides from a progressive perspective. The biggest being the disparity of income between executives and the workforce. However, for all its “fair” faults - as an economic system that is purely consumer demand driven, it tends to support/follow most societal initiatives.

Well, to this progressive, the biggest downside of capitalism - as a system - is that it's essentially founded on a primary amoral objective - making a profit. 

As such, it doesn't independently account for "external" costs - to the environment or societal benefit - in doing so. The fact it produces the benefits it does is just as incidental as the fact it can cause irreparable harm to ecosystems and species.

But to your point, those considerations ultimately rely on the people who practice it, not the system itself.  (I suppose capitalism is somewhat analogous to religion in that respect.) 

Regardless, Praise Adam Smith!  :bow:;D

 

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