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I see Niebuhr posted an article 2 hours ago talking about a "change of plans" for Stidham.

Can anyone elaborate on what the article is saying?

14 minutes ago, AidiAU said:

I know I'm older and wiser (hah - now) than a college recruit, but I would be livid if a team blew me off for a few months and then made a push in the final hour. I would like to think JS or his family would share those sentiments if that situation were to occur.

Great minds...

57 minutes ago, AuburnArch13 said:

Sumlin/Mond having a change of heart seem to be our biggest threats.

I agree with you, but with Sumlin having never met Stidham face to face, I can't see A&M jumping back in it. Would Stidham meet with Sumlin if he reached out? Of course. But IMO, it's too late in the race and Gus/Lashlee have established too much of a relationship with him.

You can tell in Stidham's interview he has been much more mature about his recruitment vs. 2 years ago by being "blunt" and telling coaches up front "this is what I'm looking for." He has been weeding them out in the first phone call.

To have Sumlin come in full force these last 5 days after being absent throughout the entire process would have to draw several questions from Stidham.

18 minutes ago, Harp_AU2013 said:

Does anyone know if he has a trip planned to Gainsville before "next week" when he plans to announce?

This is the major question before the 12th.

1 hour ago, ellitor said:

Honestly I don't care as long as aTm stays out of it and Kendall Briles does not get a job before Stidham signs or enrolls.

I know Stidham's feelings would change, but I can't see A&M being so far out of this race for awhile, then launching themselves back in it just because they hired a QB Coach. Why would the hire of a QB Coach change Sumlin's mind about Stidham, esp given as you pointed out, he's never met Stidham face to face? I just do not see A&M getting back in it.

Just now, ellitor said:

Lol. A multitude of things could have made that noise. What's truly telling is his tone of voice. He did sound frustrated he had not heard from aTm much.

It sounded like a magazine or a letter hitting a table. Or possibly slapping his leg. Regardless, the timing immediately after he said it was most def frustration. And yes, the tone of his voice validated his frustration too.

4 minutes ago, tigerfangs said:

Seriously? He slaps something? 

Listen for yourself. 5:32 mark...

6 hours ago, ellitor said:

I would not put it past aTm though to try to quietly make an 11th hour run at Stidham, especially if Mond has already signed since he is an EE.

I can't imagine that happening. The Monds have been rumored to have given Sumlin his orders, thus why he's backed off. If A&M were to break that promise by signing both, it would no doubt be another QB sh!tstorm for A&M.

Plus in Stidham's own words yesterday in that interview about A&M, "I don't know what's been going on. I haven't really talked to them much lately." You can hear him slap something after he says it in frustration.

16 minutes ago, gr82b4au said:

I will say that if we don't land Stidham - it will be a huge loss and I think most Au fans will be extremely disappointed.

For me, it would be the biggest punch in the gut in recruiting ever. To have A&M THIS far in the rearview mirror at this stage was unfathomable one month ago.

He is 100% essential at making a legit SEC Championship run next season. Without him, IMO, our chances drop below 50%. It is that drastic.

8 minutes ago, Auburn2Eugene said:

To each his own I suppose. To me,  it appeared he was forcing passes too much in 2014. To me it appeared  they (Gus, Lashlee, and Marshall) were trying to force Marshall to be more of a passer.

This is why I didn't say he regressed. I said he appeared to regress. I knew his stats improved,  but it looked forced to me. Look, I'm not taking anything away from Marshall. He was phenomenal.

Cool. And you're entitled to your opinion that he appeared to regress.

My opinion is that he progressed. Part of that was due to the addition of Duke Williams making sick catches. Part of it was due to defenses scheming on the ZR. Part of it was due to the losses of Robinson, Kozan, Mason and Prosch and that unstoppable running game. I watched Marshall become more accurate and deliberate with his passes in 2014. I'm sure part of it was scheme from the coaches, putting Williams in the slot, and making quick, deliberate slant passes a strength that season. Many of those slants were knocked down by defensive linemen, which kept his stats from being even higher.

It just so happened Marshall had the arm strength to make those passes, thus ALL of his passing stats improved (minus one more INT). Regardless if it was coaching scheme, taking advantage of Duke Williams underneath and Sammie Coates deep, taking what the defense was giving them or Marshall's arm strength or a combination of them all, Marshall progressed in the passing game in 2014.

29 minutes ago, Auburn2Eugene said:

I just hope we aren't putting all of our eggs in one basket and making coaching decisions based on the preferences of a kid who may or may not sign. 

I highly doubt we are. If we can bring Kendal aboard, great. If not, I still think we sign Stidham.

6 minutes ago, ClaytonAU said:

Appreciate the level headed post and I agree with you. 

NP. The majority of my posts are level-headed. I call all facets of AU football how I see em, good, bad or ugly, regardless if the board agrees with em or not.

IF we land Stidham, "most" here will do back flips. "Some" will continue to toot White's horn.

IF we don't land Stidham, "most" will continue to toot White's horn.

That's just how it is.

3 minutes ago, Potatooooooes!! said:

I don't know that learning from Gus and Rhett is much of a selling point IMO 

Never said they were a selling point to Kendal. In fact, the biggest selling point for Kendal to AU in any capacity is because of Art's relationship with Gus.

16 minutes ago, Auburn2Eugene said:

Key word *appeared*

No appear to it. Neither did he regress. He progressed.

15 minutes ago, ClaytonAU said:

So you literally posted an article about Gus meeting with ART Briles... not Kendall... which is who I'm talking about. Am I missing something? 

So zero chance Gus met Kendal nor Art talked about Kendal. All Gus came back with was Art info only. Nothing else?

33 minutes ago, ClaytonAU said:

Gus proved at Tulsa and Arky that he could be successful as an OC. Gus was familiar with Rhett as he has been with Gus his whole coaching career with the exception of his one year with Samford. Neither of your examples are similar to Kendall as my argument was that we don't know whether it's Kendall or his dad that is running the offense. 

Of course Gus was familiar with Rhett for several years, but he had never given the play-calling responsibilities to him until 2015.

My point is Chizik got Gus from Tulsa on the strength of his #1 ranked offense, a program that can easily run up scores on the AAC. Chizik took a big chance on him in "some" people's eyes. We were laughed at and criticized for hiring a "high school coach" by everyone...even our own fans.

It (the risk) wouldn't be much different this time with Kendal, esp if he was brought in as a QB Coach because Rhett appears cemented as OC for 2017. Worst case in that scenario is Rhett leaves in 2018 and Kendal is promoted to OC. Kendal will have learned from his dad, Gus and Rhett.

Young guys have to start somewhere and learn from someone(s).

3 minutes ago, ClaytonAU said:

Fresh ideas that we have no idea whether he actually has because he's worked under his Dad for two years. But alrighty. 

https://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2016/02/auburn_gus_malzahn_meets_with_art_briles.html

You may not have an idea, but I'm betting Gus does.

1 minute ago, ellitor said:

Let's try not to incite an argument.

Fine. Where was this statement several pages back?

14 minutes ago, Auburn2Eugene said:

Nick's interceptions dropped,  but again extreme lack of passing especially in 2013. He even appeared to regress in 2014.

Marshall's passing progressed from 2013 to 2014.

2013: 143.17 efficiency, 59.4% completion percentage, 14 TDs

2014: 151.09 efficiency, 60.8% completion percentage, 20 TDs

9 minutes ago, ClaytonAU said:

So we want to hire a guy who's only been working as an OC for two years... exclusively under his Pops... but want to get rid of Rhett

Chizik hired Gus after 3 years as an OC.

Gus hired Rhett after 1 year as an OC in the Southern Conference.

Obviously, I need to post more.

Just now, WarDamnEagleWDE said:

HAHA! YOU SEE THIS? THIS IS BLOOD! Great promo from 2/20/1988! Almost got Flair banned on WTBS and Jim Crockett's wrestling license yanked.

Sorry...back on topic..........

4 minutes ago, ellitor said:

My reaction to you saying that...

Mine was.....

3 minutes ago, ellitor said:

If he is hired as a 10th on field assistant he would likely QB coach not consultant which pays more.

Right I know. I was replying to WDE's "AU could pay good $, like uat does, for consulting positions"

I can't see Kendal settling for a consultant position.

2 minutes ago, WarDamnEagleWDE said:

Sark is going to be looking for another job soon. Word is he was drunk at the SECCG last Saturday. 

Shocker.

But wait...my bammer buds told me Kiffin is gone and Sark is taking over.

Sorry...back on topic...........

1 minute ago, WarDamnEagleWDE said:

Gus isn't going to get rid of Rhett unless Rhett has another job. 

Agreed. After all the Lashlee rumors died a week ago, no way now, esp with Lashlee leading the charge w Stidham.

My hope now, and has been for months, is Gus finds a spot for Kendal. QB Coach would be perfect for everyone involved.

Just now, WarDamnEagleWDE said:

Would have to be QB and Co-OC. With Baylor now getting their permanent HC I'd say we should find out soon enough.

And AU could pay good $, like uat does, for consulting positions.   

Sark only makes 35K at bammer as an offensive consultant.