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I’m trying to imagine him and saban having a beer after an Aflac commercial session. That’d be a spectator sport. Can you imagine an Iron Bowl? PPV worthy.

Single me out away. If what youre saying is that you don’t feel we can win recruiting extensively in any one state/geography so instead pick our battles and try to target in various areas. It’s reasonable and historically been our approach. Personally im not sure a top tier program can consistently sustain without “owning” a base geography (which imo has been one of our chronic problems) - it’s a mindset. Football isn’t basketball but Pearl “owns” Atlanta. It’s been trending for years. He targeted it. He did it (which also starved uga). AU was an afterthought before. I believe Deion (for example) could do the same and add other major areas. Maybe it’s naive or just testosterone, but it’s why I said we need a “disruptor”.

A proposed simple coaching candidate checklist. (*note - “visualize” - prior accomplishments, knowledge, reputation, and personal skill set establish possibility something could/would happen): 1)if you can “visualize” a coach disrupting the current sec order and winning 4* and 5* battles and assembling an upper echelon staff (ie they’d at least a prayer to take on Kirby and Saban mano y mano). Interview candidate. 2) If you can “visualize” a coach in front of a grand jury, NCAA, or in the tabloids - for god knows what. Don’t interview candidate. The actual interview tries to determine the realistic odds of “possible” actually happening. Its more complicated than this (political stuff, ect). But way down deep it really isn’t. With this checklist I’d suggest there are 3-4 names max. If you chose to ease the checklist - “being better”, “solid”, “8-9 game avg” and/or you dont mind having to use “personal redemption” 4 times to describe a candidate - the candidate list will get… longer. Thoughts?

I’m known for it. God I hope so.

If the primarily reason we fired Gus was that he could no longer compete with uga and bama, then I’m so lost in the woods by this logic. How would wasting years, totally destroying recruiting, and vaporizing $10s of millions - just to fall back to a “solid” candidate many will have to google - unite the fan base? It’s Groundhog Day. So Grimes is going to take on the Saban and Kirby machines? Dear lord.

Kirby has done well. But UGA was always a recruiting sleeping giant. Should have been dominant 30-40 yrs ago. And he brought with him pre baked recruiting relationships from bama. He could pivot immediately. No doubt hes much better than Richt and he’s starved us of Ga talent, but that’s as far as I’d go. If we got Deion - recruiting vs Kirby. Kinda like our chances. A lot.

Side note - And that worked out well for Lane….

Every self help book - is what you’re doing getting you what you want.

At an emotional level, we can’t compete with Jax st or (potentially) fsu. But at a competitive level - sec (the acc has …. Clemson, we have that every week), nastiest rivals, brightest spotlight, Pearl/Deion mania, and a major fixer upper with high end infrastructure - in sabans backyard. Again, put Bo (who he has major history with), Barkley, BP, AD, and a lawyer on a plane. My instincts are it can be done if we come up with other creative ways he can help the HCBUs. Ps he can do fsu in 8 years and close out there if he wants, AU is now

1st time I’ve been 100% right. In my life.

Not being argumentative but Saban wasn’t fired. The creepy way he quit still makes Dolphin fans nuts. And Kiffen was fired but it was primarily due to his dysfunctional relationship with Al Davis. He might have made it otherwise. Never will know.

Fair. I was suggesting it’s really 3 (depends on your point about trending up). Regardless, to do something that quickly means a candidate really doesn’t have time to build a big time reputation - our recruiting foot print Kirby/saban issue requires it. He needs to already have one.

When I look at the coaching lists that’s been evolving, as of now, I see only 3 viable candidates. IMO “viable”: the potential to directly take on UGA and Bama in recruiting/games, and not being a personal radioactive dumpster fire. In order: 1) Deion far and away has the highest ceiling to do this. Not even close. Kinetic as hell, winner, recruiting monster, strong connections. PR heaven, and culture change in 3 mins. But he is all about potential and the risks are obvious. And happy where he is. 2) Kiffen is proven, smart, quirky (feels like he’s coached at 35 fbs schools plus the Raiders, and should be 112 yrs old by now). His saga is legendary. I don’t know if he’s formidable enough to head butt saban and Kirby, but maybe. Happy where he is (whatever that means with Lane). 3) Rhule. Unusual resume and odd people are having to explain to some who he is (not huge name in our area) but has done an impressive turn around and coached at the highest level. His track record has holes, just got fired, and how he would recruit in our geography is pure speculation. Feels like he’d be outmatched by the uga, bama machines. But at least his background suggests he’d have a prayer. He’s very available. We fired Gus who had a decent (but fading) record primarily because of consistent uga and bama curb stompings (and uga’s gotten better since then). We either go friggin big (stop with the “we can’t get them”- just get them) or lower the goal/expectations. This fan base does not have 5 (3?) year patience. That’s proven.

The issue with Gus, whether youre a fire ‘em all yesterday type or a let’s be patient type, is that if you looked at trends and his ability to evolve his offense to a SEC that had caught up to 2013 - most peoples instincts were (not just the fire em all’s) that we had settled in the middle with no OL - and the only thing that would change in 3 yrs is that we’d be 3 yrs older. I like Gus and try to watch UCF games today, but given fan expectations (I won’t go there) and the weaponized geography we now recruit in. It wasn’t going to work. Same thing with most of the coaching names I’m seeing pop up now - proven, known, and reputable OR needing “redemption” coaches (not game changers)->UGA/Bama recruiting ->Gus 2.0

He never beat a ranked team and was hired straight to head coach in the nfl. Just say that 3 times. He either must be one hell of an interview or the owner is nuts. I judge all candidates primarily on whether 1) they could directly challenge (not annoy) saban or Kirby 2) they’re not a hot drama mess. Doubtful about first but respectful about how he cleaned up a Baylor train wreck.

The most exciting player in NFL History | Deion Sanders Deion Sanders, football and baseball star, two-time Super Bowl winner, and member of the Professional and College Football Halls of Fame 4 min read Deion Sanders, football and baseball star, two-time Super Bowl winner, and member of the Professional and College Football Hall of Fame. Deion Luwynn Sanders was born on August 9, 1967 in Fort Myers, Florida. During his school years, he played basketball, baseball and football, having achieved some success in all sports. Sanders was later named one of the top 33 players in a century of high school football in the state. He graduated from high school in 1985 and was drafted by the Kansas City Royals baseball, but decided not to sign and went to college. In Florida's State Deion program, he has continued to demonstrate his versatility. In his first year, he won the conference championship with the college athletics team, and the baseball team he played as an outfielder finished fifth in the NCAA. In four seasons with Seminoles football, he played 44 games, making 14 interceptions, including 3 in Super Bowls. At the end of the 1988 season, Sanders won the Jim Thorpe award for best college football d-back. He also played superbly on antlers' returns, with a total of 1,429 yards in his career. Now number 2, under which Deion entered the field, is withdrawn from circulation at the university. In the 1989 Draft, Sanders was picked by Atlanta as a fifth overall. By that time, he had been a baseball player for the New York Yankees for a year. Deion made his Major League Baseball debut on May 31, 1989. In the fall, he entered the field for the first time in an NFL game, marking a touchdown on a pant return. Sanders' baseball career went on to include Atlanta Falcons, Cincinnati Bengals and San Francisco 49ers, peaking in the 1992 season, in which the Braves entered the World Series and lost to Toronto. Deion spent it with a leg injury, but was one of the best in the team. He played in football Atlanta until 1993. In this stretch of his career, Sanders made 24 interceptions and 10 touchdowns (three on defense, five on returns, and two on reception). In 1992, he had a chance to become the first-ever athlete to play in two leagues on the same day: after the Falcons in Miami, Deion flew to Pittsburgh for a baseball game, but Coach Braves didn't let him on the field. Before the start of the 1994 season, Sanders signed with San Francisco 49ers. He had a great regular season, winning the Defensive Player of the Year award and then winning Super Bowl XXIX. In the main match of the season against San Diego, Deion scored with an interception. In addition, he became the first athlete to play in the Super Bowl and World Series. After a super successful year, Sanders signed a seven-year, $35 million deals with Dallas, becoming the highest paid NFL Defesive player. Later in his book, he wrote that the Raiders offered him the best conditions, and he chose Cowboys because of the best chances of reaching the Super Bowl. Deion's calculation paid off: the 1995 season ended with a great victory for the team in Super Bowl XXX. For Dallas, this title was the third in four years. He played for the team until the end of the 1999 season. After that there was an unsuccessful year at the Redskins and a career pause that followed. In 2001, Sanders retired from his baseball career, and in 2004 returned to the football field: for two more seasons with the Ravens. He finally left in 2006. Deion Sanders' football career spanned fourteen seasons. During this time, he was eight times one of the Pro Bowl participants, eleven times he was included in the first All-Pro team in different positions. On his account are touchdowns made in six different ways: on interception, pant and kick-off returns, on reception and on the carry-out, as well as on the return of a matched fumble. Only Bill Dudley, who played in the 1940s, did this. In 2011, Sanders was inducted into the Professional Football Hall of Fame. He also serves on the 1990s All-Star Team (as a corner back and rebound specialist) and the NFL Centenary Team. After completing his career, Sanders remains a popular and media personality. He stared a lot in commercials and various television shows, works as an analyst for the NFL Network. In 2008, a reality show was broadcast, the main characters of which were Deion, his wife and their five children. He also has other interests: he has released two music albums and wrote a book, worked as a personal trainer for a number of players and even was an assistant to the head coach of the Dallas Fury of the women's NBA. From 2006 to 2008, Sanders co-owned the Austin Wranglers, which played in the arena-football league. https://www.nfl-therapy.com/2020/08/the-most-exciting-player-in-nfl-history.html?m=1 ————— I think for any generation he’s sort of…. known

I agree. Hurts my head. But my Dad loved Vienna Sausages and I’d black out if I even looked at them. We’re a diverse species.

Don’t be so sure😋

The failure rate of college colleges to nfl has gotta be around 80-90%. Maybe higher. Surprised owners keep trying (Jimmy Johnson syndrome). Usually they’ve proactively quit to preserve rep and go back to college gigs before they get axed. He was successful and It’s time for another coaching name to consider (and shred to pieces) thread - so yes, he”s in play!!

I’m a little surprised how little news or buzz came after Saturday’s thumping. Just some basic speculation and more doom and gloom stuff. I’m not sure what I was expecting but …. something.

Deion’s is going to make some of our fans uncomfortable. I personally love the energy and bravado (he might need to bring it down one notch) but I understand the pushback. However, I’d suggest that for young athletes/recruits and students - its kinda a proven approach and there are worse brands to have.

Possibly. He’s going to be a (probably the) major top target regardless, as all the end of season firings start. We’ll need to be aggressive, creative, and early. Or maybe I’m wrong and some of our other fans are right: Auburn is Auburn and we can get who ever we want, so we give Belichick a contract for $2m - and the rest of the country fights over freeze.

If you count a 3 and out without any turn overs as a click. Maybe.