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The thing about going undefeated is that the team's potential is unknown. If a team goes undefeated in 13 games, you have no real basis of knowing how long that team could go without a loss, whereas when a team has a loss, you do have that predictive basis. With a 12-1 team, you can say, "that's a 92% win percentage so over a hundred games, they'd probably lose 8." But with a team that is 13-0, you're still at 100% after 100 games. That's why you respect the undefeated record -- deference to potential. Even if FSU gets shellacked in its bowl game, the committee has made a mistake.

Raise your hand if you had to remember who we were playing today and when you checked you immediately thought, "Oh nice, we're gonna be 7-4." [Raises hand]

I'm not able to watch the game (maybe not such a bad thing). Is there any chance we win this?

If the guys overlooked this weekend's game, I can't say I'm surprised. I looked at the schedule this morning and thought, "Oh good, we're gonna be 7-4."

I'd like to see us pull out a profoundly undeserved win due to some combination of the other team's boneheaded mistakes and our own dumb luck.

Say, it's the ten year anniversary of the last time a reigning back-to-back champion paid JH a visit...

Well, unless we end up beating them. Then they are amazing.

Basically like saying "I hope not stopping for a drink at that oasis doesn't come back to haunt me" when you're lost in the desert.

Hello my old friend 'heading into the 4th quarter with a chance.'

Come on Peyton...be the thorne in the bulldog's paw. I'll see myself out...

Taking bets on whether we have more failed third down conversions than pass attempts.

UM has more yards and first downs in this game. Just not the right ones.

Fair, I don't know exactly how many L1s occured under Nutt v Freeze, but it's widely reported that many were under Freeze. As for your second point, you may have me mixed up with someone else as I never made the argument Freeze cant recruit without cheating. There is someone on here slinging mud at every coach in the SEC/country during the Freeze OM era, saying they all have violated the same NCAA laws Freeze has. I simply asked for evidence for these claims, which he has declined to provide.

You're right, one violation for him for failing to oversee a program that got hit with 15 Level 1 violations. And now that he's showed up to AU an admin on this site is baselessly accusing others including our own former HC Gus of the same poor conduct.

Thank you and yes of course you are welcome to make baseless accusations against others in an attempt to normalize Hugh's multiple violations.

Thank you for the clarification. That brings me back to my original question: Do you have any tangible basis for your accusation that Gus and the others you mention violated NCAA legislation as Hugh did, or are you just assuming?

It's a very simple deduction.

First of all, you said in defense of Hugh that he was "doing the exact same things all his SEC rivals were doing to find success." One cannot read this without coming to the conclusion that you are referring to Gus and every other SEC head coach at the time of Hugh's tenure at OM. The first sentence in the report you quote above reads, "the head coach also violated NCAA head coach responsibility legislation because he failed to monitor his program's activities..." This says in no uncertain terms that Hugh violated NCAA legislation. So when one puts it all together, you've accused Gus of violating the same NCAA rules that Hugh did.

I fully understand that coaches at all levels violate the rules in a myriad of ways. That doesn't mean every coach has violated every rule that Hugh Freeze was found to have violated.

Thanks for the detailed response. Though it may seem like a minor quibble, I want to clarify that I did not use the word "cheating" as you've implied. You can read my post where I asked, "is there tangible evidence that all of his SEC rivals were also violating the same NCAA clauses he was? Was Auburn doing this also?", and to which you replied with an apparently emphatic, "Yes." Given Gus's tenure at AU overlapped with Hugh's at OM you've accused Gus (not to mention every other coach in the conference/country) of committing these same infractions. Gus has his weaknesses as coach but this is the first accusation I've heard of him violating NCAA rules. Are you basing it on anything specific?

If it's a serious accusation, then yes it's a serious question.

I promise I'm not being snarky but is there tangible evidence that all of his SEC rivals were also violating the same NCAA clauses he was? Was Auburn doing this also?

Because he did it at Ole Miss, which is a historical cellar dweller.

I don't think that's the appendage people are worried about.

There's the Gus Bus, the Lane Train, and now...the Hugh Pew? Wait, that's not gonna work...