WarTiger 3,913 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 The NCAA is going to doing some experimental rules changes for the NIT this post season. This is basically how they do the women's game now (except the women play 4 quarters now). They are discussing taking the men's game to 4 quarters as well. http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2017-02-13/college-basketball-experimental-rules-approved-2017-nit College basketball: Experimental rules approved for 2017 NIT Team fouls to reset after 10 minutes in each half Greg Johnson | NCAA.com Last Updated - Feb 13, 2017 11:03 EST Contact | Archive | RSS The NCAA Playing Rules Oversight Panel has approved experimental rules that will reset team fouls to zero at the end of 10-minute segments of each half in the upcoming 2017 NIT postseason tournament. The panel also approved experimental rules that will reset the shot clock to 20 seconds instead of 30 seconds at times when the ball is inbounded in the front court during games in the NIT. In the experimental rule regarding resetting the team fouls, the one-and-one free throw bonus will not occur. Instead, teams will shoot two free throws in the following examples: • Each team is limited to a team total of four personal and technical fouls (excluding administrative technical fouls) during each 10-minute segment of each half.• The first 10-minute segment of each half will begin when the ball becomes live to begin the half and will end when the game clock reads 10:00. The second segment will begin when the game clock reads 9:59 and ends when the half ends.• When a team has reached the four-foul limitation, all subsequent personal and technical fouls (excluding administrative technical fouls) will be penalized by two free throw attempts.• Each team’s foul total will reset to zero when any 10-minute segment has ended.• The rules regarding penalties for fouls in the act of shooting, flagrant fouls or technical fouls will not be affected by this experimental rule and will always result in two free throws unless the rules specifically say otherwise.• In any overtime period, when a team has reached a total of three personal and technical fouls (excluding administrative technical fouls), all subsequent personal and technical fouls will be penalized by two free throw attempts. The NCAA Men’s Basketball Rules Committee has heard discussion in the college basketball community about possibly changing games to four 10-minute quarters instead of two 20-minute halves. One of the main reasons for contemplating the possible change is to allow for the team fouls to be reset to zero at the end of each 10-minute quarter. The committee believes resetting the team fouls to zero at the 9:59 mark of each half may have the same effect as resetting the team fouls to zero at the end of each quarter, while at the same time allowing for men’s college basketball to retain the unique format of two 20-minute halves. In the other experimental rule, the shot clock will remain the same as when play was interrupted or reset to 20 seconds, whichever is greater, at any time any of the following occurs: • A personal foul by the defense, which results in no free throws, and the ball is inbounded in the front court.• Any technical foul assessed against the defense, and the ball is inbounded in the front court.• The game is stopped for a bleeding player or blood on a uniform and the ball is inbounded in the front court. The NCAA Men’s Basketball Rules Committee wants to see if resetting the shot clock to 20 seconds when the offensive team is taking the ball out of bounds in the front court will increase the number of possessions for each team over the course of a full game, which may also increase scoring. Experimenting with these rules changes during the 31 games played in the 2017 NIT will provide valuable information for the Men’s Basketball Rules Committee to review during its May 2017 meeting. The committee will allow other postseason tournaments to use the experimental rules as well if the tournaments agree to gather the appropriate data for review by the committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 WT....do you have any sense of what the changes might do to the elapsed time of games? I did not notice an change in time outs...but figure the break at the quarter would take the place of at least one time out. As for the games themselves....seems they are getting longer now ...many running past the 2 hours allowed for TV...and the MSU game ran almost 2 1/2 hours last week though that was unusual.. Also....any discussion about going to 6 PFs to keep the starters in the game longer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarTiger 3,913 Posted February 14, 2017 Author Share Posted February 14, 2017 As far as I know there hasn't been any discussion at all in going to 6 PF per player. The only thing they are really doing here is getting the team foul count to reset after each 10 minute session. This is the beginning to gather data to see if they should move the men's game to 4 quarters like they did the women's game 2 years ago. In the womens game there is no longer a bonus situation. After the 5th foul in each quarter the teams shoot 2 free throws. The games can be made shorter by doing 2 things. 1. limit the number of commercial breaks/media timeouts. 2. Let the players play and decide the game instead of having the officials make so many calls that had no affect on advantage/disadvantage. A hand on a players waist at half court should not be an automatic foul. Quit calling the ticky tack stuff and let the players play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,111 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 7 hours ago, WarTiger said: As far as I know there hasn't been any discussion at all in going to 6 PF per player. The only thing they are really doing here is getting the team foul count to reset after each 10 minute session. This is the beginning to gather data to see if they should move the men's game to 4 quarters like they did the women's game 2 years ago. In the womens game there is no longer a bonus situation. After the 5th foul in each quarter the teams shoot 2 free throws. The games can be made shorter by doing 2 things. 1. limit the number of commercial breaks/media timeouts. 2. Let the players play and decide the game instead of having the officials make so many calls that had no affect on advantage/disadvantage. A hand on a players waist at half court should not be an automatic foul. Quit calling the ticky tack stuff and let the players play the game. And this has shortened the game by about 5 to 6 minutes on average because there is 1 less commercial break each half in the women's game. There are 3 set commercial breaks in each half of the women's game: near or under the 5 minute mark of each quarter & the quarter break from the 1st to 2nd & 3rd to 4th quarters, basically around every 5 game minutes. The men's game has commercial breaks around every 4 game minutes with under 16, 12, 8, 4 tv timeouts each half. I personally like the quarter system quite a bit better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 2 hours ago, ellitor said: And this has shortened the game by about 5 to 6 minutes on average because there is 1 less commercial break each half in the women's game. There are 3 set commercial breaks in each half of the women's game: near or under the 5 minute mark of each quarter & the quarter break from the 1st to 2nd & 3rd to 4th quarters, basically around every 5 game minutes. The men's game has commercial breaks around every 4 game minutes with under 16, 12, 8, 4 tv timeouts each half. I personally like the quarter system quite a bit better. I'm neutral on the quarter system but anything that reduces the number of commercial breaks or shortens them.....and shortens the total time for a game is good. And I expect the TV folks have a point of view....they love the commercial breaks but probably don't like having so many games that run beyond 2 hours forcing them to use alternative channels to cover their programming. Would not be surprised if they did not have major input on the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehighfan 1,240 Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Well, seeing as Auburn has trouble with the rules already in place I don't know how quick they could pick up these new rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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