aujeff11 6,243 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, bigbird said: Two coaches have refuted your point. Just admit what the board already knows, you talk out if your ass 90% of the time. You'll feel so much better once you do. You're such a clown. Just keep moving those goalpost, jeffy. Don’t think you understand the concept of moving goalposts because my position has never changed. As for the “rest of the board” stuff...I’m sorry if I caught you in your feelings. It’s okay to have a good cry!! I promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,522 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 On 8/15/2019 at 5:30 AM, bigbird said: Because potential vs actual is a trying concept for fans. On 8/15/2019 at 5:39 AM, aujeff11 said: Coe + Brown + Davidson ___________ actual On 8/15/2019 at 6:00 AM, bigbird said: Wrong. Like I said, a trying concept. Until they play this year and until they finish as one of the best DL in the country, then it's all potential. 2018: Auburn has one of the best DL in the country. Unrealized potential 2018: Pre-season rank #3 2019: Auburn has one of the best DL in the country. Potential 2019: Pre-season #8 On 8/16/2019 at 12:19 PM, toddc said: Kevin Steele doesn’t get caught up in the hype. As a veteran coach, he’s not programmed that way. So, when he hears people talking about Auburn’s defensive line being the best in the country and the Tigers being expected to field a top-tier defense this season, the fourth-year defensive coordinator just shakes his head. Sure, he knows what the defense is bringing back to the fold this year — five experienced starters in the secondary, three potential early-round NFL Draft picks along the defensive line and a supremely athletic linebacker corps — but all that external prognosticating is based off last year’s production and projecting it to this year’s potential. “Obviously, part of the process, part of the standard is this is a new football team,” Steele said. “Everybody always says that’s last year, so how does anybody know what we are? They’ve never seen this defense. We, as coaches, are just now seeing, so to project what this defense is, I know the pundits need — that’s part of preseason hype; that’s part of what makes college football great. It’s going to happen, but the truth of the matter is we haven’t proven anything…. (but) we have an opportunity before us to be very good at what we do.” Now Steele says the same thing and you continue to argue. It's what you do, we get it. It does makes you look like a clown though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aujeff11 6,243 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, bigbird said: Now Steele says the same thing and you continue to argue. It's what you do, we get it. It does makes you look like a clown though. Would you expect coach speak to sound any differently? Steele is also talking about the whole defense, not just the defensive line. If anything, you’re the one moving the goalposts. As for the clown stuff, you can keep doubling down on it but it’s water on a duck’s back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,522 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, aujeff11 said: Would you expect coach speak to sound any differently? Steele is also talking about the whole defense, not just the defensive line. If anything, you’re the one moving the goalposts. And now it's about coach speak. What he said isn't an opinion and it's not coach speak. It is a fact. Everything we bring back is being projected to be great based on last year's actual performances. This year they have great potential but haven't done anything to be considered great...yet. Nothing but a clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aujeff11 6,243 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, bigbird said: Everything we bring back is being projected to be great based on last year's actual performances I don’t know about all our returning pieces being great. We have the depth to where even modest improvement can show up as well. When we have so much experience coming back, it’s okay to assume players are not going to take steps back, or our players forget how to play football. 7 minutes ago, bigbird said: This year they have great potential but haven't done anything to be considered great...yet. That’s because our record is still 0-0. The 3 DL pieces coming back would be in NFL training camp right now, but keep fighting back against optimism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,522 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, aujeff11 said: but keep fighting back against optimism. Quit fighting facts and reality. I'm not fighting optimism. I think they have great potential and an excellent opportunity to be the best DL in AU history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,522 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, aujeff11 said: That’s because our record is still 0-0. Therefore, it's all potential. I don't know why your fighting that. It's beyond silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aujeff11 6,243 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, bigbird said: Therefore, it's all potential. I don't know why your fighting that. It's beyond silly. you’re* No what was beyond silly was fighting back against our DL being a team strength when 99% of our fans and most coaches would agree as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,522 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 You're comprehension is unbelievable. When did I ever say they wouldn't be a strength? I've said multiple times they should be a strength, but until they prove it, it's just potential. A concept that you still can't comprehend. Just stop. Clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdgeneration 6,469 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Why can't we just all get along? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aujeff11 6,243 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, bigbird said: When did I ever say they wouldn't be a strength? When was my argument ever anything but such? 11 minutes ago, bigbird said: Just stop. Clown. The picture is cute. My first response was met with unintelligent ad hominems and immaturity. But you keep doing you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,522 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 minute ago, aujeff11 said: When was my argument ever anything but such? On 8/15/2019 at 5:39 AM, aujeff11 said: Coe + Brown + Davidson ___________ actual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aujeff11 6,243 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Just now, bigbird said: Are you saying Coe+Brown+Davidson doesn’t already have enough actual evidence to support their case of being a team strength? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,522 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, aujeff11 said: Are you saying Coe+Brown+Davidson doesn’t already have enough actual evidence to support their case of being a team strength? They certainly have the potential to be. Again, you don't understand potential vs actual. Read Steele's words again. He is saying the same thing I have been saying to you. However, I understand you're having difficulty. So let's try to be a little simpler for you. In 2019, the DL has the potential to be great. In 2019, they haven't shown anything yet. You can't say that the 2019 DL is great until they actually prove it. For example, the 2018 DL had similar hype last preseason. As shown by the 2018 national DL stats, they didn't achieve that potential with their actual performances. Foolishness and stubbornness is a great quality. Keep on fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cole256 17,059 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 If this is still stemming from me d line being a team strength wasn't ever the question, it was the claim being the best in the nation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR 2,442 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Staffs everywhere have adopted the Saban 'One Voice" strategy, but I really wish Gus would let his staff talk to the media during the season. I think it would help him and it would help give his staff some experience dealing with the media going forward in their career. These guys are a well-spoken group, it's not like they would be dangerous to turn loose for some post-game thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,522 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, cole256 said: If this is still stemming from me d line being a team strength wasn't ever the question, it was the claim being the best in the nation You know how it works... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,093 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 hour ago, aujeff11 said: Would you expect coach speak to sound any differently? I am not taking sides in the big picture of the argument you & Bird are having but come on now Jeff you have to know better. You've been around here long enough to know Coach Steele doesn't do coach speak. He rarely if ever has. One of the things all the AU reporters have said they enjoy & is refreshing about him is his straight forward nature in answering question when he can answer them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick.AU 13,279 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 I’m ready for the 31st, I think we can all agree on that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aujeff11 6,243 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, bigbird said: For example, the 2018 DL had similar hype last preseason. As shown by the 2018 national DL stats, they didn't achieve that potential with their actual performances. The DL was fine, not great, but still a team strength last year. Can’t blame the DL against Mississippi State when linebackers aren’t hitting the right holes or taking themselves out of play. Now, do the linebacker and secondary national rankings. 20 minutes ago, bigbird said: Again, you don't understand potential vs actual. Read Steele's words again. He is saying the same thing I have been saying to you. Steele’s words of coach speak regarding the whole defense, and not the DL by itself really butters your toast doesn’t it? 16 minutes ago, cole256 said: If this is still stemming from me d line being a team strength wasn't ever the question, it was the claim being the best in the nation I actually told Bird that our preseason DLranking at 8 could arguably go up or down. He still kept chirping though. 24 minutes ago, bigbird said: Foolishness and stubbornness is a great quality. Keep on fighting. Irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aujeff11 6,243 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, bigbird said: You know how it works... It’s funny how I never claimed we were going to be the best, but yet you think I’m the one moving the goalposts. But then again, you’re all bark, no bite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,522 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 minute ago, aujeff11 said: The DL was fine, not great, but still a team strength last year. Wait. So now, the DL that you've touted as great and the reason for their greatness this year was "fine, not great"? Interesting. You keep trying to shift the conversation to team strength. That's not, nor has it ever been, what the two of us have been talking about. Stay on point. Potential vs actual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aujeff11 6,243 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 minute ago, bigbird said: Wait. So now, the DL that you've touted as great and the reason for their greatness this year was "fine, not great"? Interesting. Link? I actually said “we were a bonafide pass rusher from being Clemson level.” But don’t let facts get in your way. 1 minute ago, bigbird said: You keep trying to shift the conversation to team strength. That’s all it ever was from the beginning. I even told you that our preseason ranking at 8 could be argued up or down. Your comprehension skills need a tune up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird 60,522 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, aujeff11 said: It’s funny how I never claimed we were going to be the best, but yet you think I’m the one moving the goalposts. But then again, you’re all bark, no bite. Again, since you're confused. Here is the conversation, how it started, and the post. No where in it is team strength talked about except at the end when you claimed, "Auburn’s returning starters are actual evidence that the DL will be a strength." On 8/14/2019 at 8:09 PM, cole256 said: How do you know we are one of the best if not the best defensive fronts? On 8/15/2019 at 5:30 AM, bigbird said: Because potential vs actual is a trying concept for fans. On 8/15/2019 at 5:39 AM, aujeff11 said: Coe + Brown + Davidson ___________ actual On 8/15/2019 at 6:00 AM, bigbird said: Wrong. Like I said, a trying concept. Until they play this year and until they finish as one of the best DL in the country, then it's all potential. 2018: Auburn has one of the best DL in the country. Unrealized potential 2018: Pre-season rank #3 2019: Auburn has one of the best DL in the country. Potential 2019: Pre-season #8 On 8/15/2019 at 6:13 AM, aujeff11 said: Auburn’s DL stats last year wasn’t all on them. Auburn’s returning starters are actual evidence that the DL will be a strength. Moultry wasn’t very far off last year he just needed a year to acclimate. Truesdell will potentially be a low 3* hero. Preseason Top 8? Can go up or down. Preseason rankings are pointless anyway. Quit trying to change the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aujeff11 6,243 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 minute ago, bigbird said: Preseason Top 8? Can go up or down Thanks for proving that I’m not moving the goalposts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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