Golden Eagle 410 Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 Wow. Auburn was the next to last team announced tonight. And going back to Clemson. And, if by chance they win the regional they will face Oklahoma in a super regional. 🥴 Norman Regional Oklahoma (1) Missouri California Hofstra Los Angeles Regional UCLA (2) San Diego State Liberty Grand Canyon Tallahassee Regional Florida State (3) UCF South Carolina Marist Knoxville Regional Tennessee (4) Louisville Indiana Northern Kentucky Tuscaloosa Regional Alabama (5) Middle Tennessee Central Arkansas LIU Stillwater Regional Oklahoma State (6) Nebraska Wichita State UMBC Seattle Regional Washington (7) McNeese Minnesota Northern Colorado Durham Regional Duke (8) Campbell Charlotte George Mason Stanford Regional Stanford (9) Loyola Marymount Florida Long Beach State Baton Rouge Regional LSU (10) Omaha Louisiana Prairie View Fayetteville Regional Arkansas (11) Notre Dame Oregon Harvard Evanston Regional Northwestern (12) Miami (OH) Kentucky Eastern Illinois Austin Regional Texas (13) Texas St. Texas A&M Seton Hall Athens Regional Georgia (14) Boston University Virginia Tech NC Central Salt Lake City Regional Utah (15) Ole Miss Baylor Southern Illinois Clemson Regional Clemson (16) Cal St Fullerton Auburn UNC Greensboro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger1168 51 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 How are we next to last but bama got 5th seed? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU1947 157 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Yep, other than SEC schedule we do NOT play anyone but weaker teams..... A weak and padded schedule!!! CMD needs to play tougher non-conference teams!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU1947 157 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) Just now, tiger1168 said: How are we next to last but bama got 5th seed? Look at their Nonconference schedule... and they stayed in the SEC tourney longer than we did.. Edited May 15, 2023 by AU1947 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger1168 51 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, AU1947 said: Look at their Nonconference schedule... and they stayed in the SEC tourney longer than we did.. We made the final 4 as the did 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Eagle 410 Posted May 15, 2023 Author Share Posted May 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, AU1947 said: Yep, other than SEC schedule we do NOT play anyone but weaker teams..... A weak and padded schedule!!! CMD needs to play tougher non-conference teams!! That's mostly true...we went to OKC in March and played Oklahoma twice and Northwestern twice...but lost all 4 games. We also won the series against Alabama and LSU, both of whom are apparently top 10 teams so 4 wins there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigers23 677 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 24 minutes ago, AU1947 said: and they stayed in the SEC tourney longer than we did.. Nope 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTennis80 349 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Maybe we didn't deserve a national seed but how does Alabama earn a 5 seed when they had a mediocre conference record like they did? If they deserve a 5 seed, then we deserve a national seed. And being put in the Oklahoma bracket is so tough! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTennis80 349 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Wait, we're the 3rd seed in our regional? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Eagle 410 Posted May 15, 2023 Author Share Posted May 15, 2023 1 minute ago, TigerTennis80 said: Wait, we're the 3rd seed in our regional? Really? Yep. Second to last team announced. Shocked me that we weren't a 2 seed somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Eagle 410 Posted May 15, 2023 Author Share Posted May 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, TigerTennis80 said: Maybe we didn't deserve a national seed but how does Alabama earn a 5 seed when they had a mediocre conference record like they did? If they deserve a 5 seed, then we deserve a national seed. And being put in the Oklahoma bracket is so tough! On the selection show, one of the people on the committee who came up with the bracket said they were so impressed by Alabama's 6 wins against top 10 teams as well as additional wins against top 25 teams (many of whom are in the SEC). Alabama did play a much tougher out of conference schedule than we did...but I also think there is too often a bias in favor of Alabama. Before they announced Alabama, they said something to the effect that the next one was going to surprise people. I think that's an understatement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Eagle 410 Posted May 15, 2023 Author Share Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) 59 minutes ago, AU1947 said: Look at their Nonconference schedule... and they stayed in the SEC tourney longer than we did.. Both Auburn and Alabama were eliminated in the semi-final round. Alabama was in it longer than Auburn because Auburn had a bye in the first 2 rounds due to their 3rd place finish in the SEC (so Auburn only played 2 games). Alabama only had a bye in the first round due to their 5th place finish in the SEC (so they played 3 games). But, Auburn lost to unseeded South Carolina. Alabama, to their credit, lost to the eventual winner, Tennessee, by a score of 7-6. I didn't watch it but apparently it was a close game. Edited May 15, 2023 by Golden Eagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTennis80 349 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, Golden Eagle said: On the selection show, one of the people on the committee who came up with the bracket said they were so impressed by Alabama's 6 wins against top 10 teams as well as additional wins against top 25 teams (many of whom are in the SEC). Alabama did play a much tougher out of conference schedule than we did...but I also think there is too often a bias in favor of Alabama. Before they announced Alabama, they said something to the effect that the next one was going to surprise people. I think that's an understatement. I get that those out of conference wins are impressive. But how long ago were they? How do you weigh starting off with a bang but then sliding back into pretty average through conference play? Meanwhile we started off looking pretty average but finished strong, which apparently matters little. I wonder if winning the series at UGa (not losing the lead in the 7th in Athens) would have made a difference. Anyway, I just don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Eagle 410 Posted May 15, 2023 Author Share Posted May 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, TigerTennis80 said: I get that those out of conference wins are impressive. But how long ago were they? How do you weigh starting off with a bang but then sliding back into pretty average through conference play? Meanwhile we started off looking pretty average but finished strong, which apparently matters little. I wonder if winning the series at UGa (not losing the lead in the 7th in Athens) would have made a difference. Anyway, I just don't like it. I don't either...and, as you say, supposedly how you finish matters (thus South Carolina made it into the tournament). The person who explained why Alabama was seeded so high was asked whether the committee considered late-season injuries going into the postseason (e.g., potentially Fouts) and she said 'no' - just the team's overall performance. As I said I think there is always bias in favor of Alabama and, it honestly seems to me, some bias against Auburn. Then again, we're just not a stellar offensive team and we only have 1 ace pitcher. Seems that most other teams have at least 3 really good pitchers that they cycle in to keep batters off kilter. We just ride Maddie into the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU1947 157 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 According to the RPI we are NOT in the TOP 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Eagle 410 Posted May 15, 2023 Author Share Posted May 15, 2023 Did anyone say we were? Most of the RPI rankings don't map to seedings in the postseason bracket...Alabama's RPI is 12 and they are seeded 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU1947 157 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 13 minutes ago, Golden Eagle said: Did anyone say we were? Most of the RPI rankings don't map to seedings in the postseason bracket...Alabama's RPI is 12 and they are seeded 5th. Sure looks like the Top teams in RPI are all hosting..... https://www.sportingnews.com/us/other-sports/news/ncaa-softball-bracket-2023-selections-live/pnzqk9plveepoaetudfwkjcm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Eagle 410 Posted May 15, 2023 Author Share Posted May 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, AU1947 said: Sure looks like the Top teams in RPI are all hosting..... https://www.sportingnews.com/us/other-sports/news/ncaa-softball-bracket-2023-selections-live/pnzqk9plveepoaetudfwkjcm Not sure I understand your point. In the RPI list you show above, Louisiana has an RPI of 11 while Alabama's is 12. But the selection committed decided Alabama is the #5 overall seed (and hosting) while Louisiana is the #3 seed in the Baton Rouge regional hosted by the overall #10 seed LSU (whose RPI is 7). Both LSU and Louisiana have higher RPIs than Alabama...but LSU is seeded 5 spots lower than Alabama and Louisiana isn't even hosting. Tennessee's RPI is 10th but they are seeded 4th. Etc, etc, etc. So while RPI is a factor, it clearly isn't the most important factor. In the past, there has been talk of an edge being given to teams who finish the year strong. South Carolina seems to fit that profile this year. After finishing 3rd in the SEC (with series wins over Alabama, LSU and Ole Miss among others) I expected Auburn to be a 2 seed in one of the regionals, not a 3 seed. Ole Miss is a 2 seed in their regional, though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUBwins 10,107 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 I didn't expect us to host, but sure didn't expect us to be a 3 seed. We got the shaft! Almost like they were aggravated to put us in the tournament lol. Bama should have been an 8 or something. More appalled with how easy their regional is on top of that. This field must have been set a month ago lol. I just hate it we are matched with Oklahoma for supers. That just sucks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTennis80 349 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Golden Eagle said: I don't either...and, as you say, supposedly how you finish matters (thus South Carolina made it into the tournament). The person who explained why Alabama was seeded so high was asked whether the committee considered late-season injuries going into the postseason (e.g., potentially Fouts) and she said 'no' - just the team's overall performance. As I said I think there is always bias in favor of Alabama and, it honestly seems to me, some bias against Auburn. Then again, we're just not a stellar offensive team and we only have 1 ace pitcher. Seems that most other teams have at least 3 really good pitchers that they cycle in to keep batters off kilter. We just ride Maddie into the ground. I would agree that we're not a stellar offense, but we're also not a terrible offense. The announcers during the SEC tournament last week called us 1 of the better offenses in the SEC (which made me wonder about SEC offenses, I must admit 😄). But as for riding 1 pitcher, Oklahoma had that girl we faced in the championship series (can't put a date on when that was but y'all remember) who pitched every postseason game for them but 1. Look, if Fouts can't pitch for Bama, they aren't the same team, but that doesn't matter. And RPI doesn't matter apparently. So what does? Ole Miss finishes 10th in the SEC & gets a 2 seed in their region while we finish 3rd (& finish the conference season strong) & beat them in the SEC tournament but get a 3 seed in our region. I'm just baffled. And pissed. I hope the girls have a bit of chip on their shoulders after this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU1947 157 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) So each committee determines more on what they see as more influential in their own ranking system according to the ESPN article and interview. Everyone was shocked about that team from West Alabama.. this was taken from the article.... "Six top-10 wins and strength of schedule were the key components to the seeding according to the chair of the committee. However, that's not how the previous committees had determined where teams should be in the bracket, relaying a lot more on RPI (Rating Percentage Index). Alabama's RPI was 12th after the SEC Tournament. Consequently, the expectation was Florida State would be No. 5, with Alabama having to visit Tallahassee to have a shot at the Women's College World Series. " So there is a LOT more that plays into the so called seeding and it all falls back on what the committee sees as important. AND the strength of schedule (RPI) always plays a part and most of the time it is the most important. So my point is you need to have a strong RPI, with wins vs who, how you are playing at the end, that is what has traditionally been factors. They had to tweak their process this year.... And while we had a much better season this year the ball just bounced our way in several very close series wins.. we are still 103 in team BA in the overall rankings. And we played better than expected. Kudos to our team. Make it out of Clemson Regional and it is Oklahoma! Play the best right out the gate. Edited May 15, 2023 by AU1947 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU1947 157 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) And someone got smart at the end of the season because the game against Alabama State that was canceled due to "everything to lose - nothing to gain" quite possibly could have cost us to miss the whole show... Edited May 15, 2023 by AU1947 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
all4AU 379 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 @TigerTennis80 @Golden Eagle @AUBwins We are the 2 seed and will be the home team Friday against Cal State Fullerton. Each regional was announced in this order: 1-4-3-2, with the 1 and 2 seeds opposing each other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUBwins 10,107 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, all4AU said: @TigerTennis80 @Golden Eagle @AUBwins We are the 2 seed and will be the home team Friday against Cal State Fullerton. Each regional was announced in this order: 1-4-3-2, with the 1 and 2 seeds opposing each other. Then that makes more sense. We are the strongest 2, being matched up against the lowest ranked 1. Then we likely would have been the 16 hosting if we did enough to host and in the same spot. So, I guess we are about where we thought we would be. I think the other seeds (Bama especially) are what we are comparing Auburn to that seems not right. Probably would have actually benefitted losing to Bama St to get a lower 2 seed and avoid Oklahoma in a best of 3. Rather face them in WCWS. Edited May 15, 2023 by AUBwins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU1947 157 Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 2 hours ago, all4AU said: @TigerTennis80 @Golden Eagle @AUBwins We are the 2 seed and will be the home team Friday against Cal State Fullerton. Each regional was announced in this order: 1-4-3-2, with the 1 and 2 seeds opposing each other. Are you sure because everything I have seen has us the #3... https://www.sportingnews.com/us/other-sports/news/ncaa-softball-bracket-2023-selections-live/pnzqk9plveepoaetudfwkjcm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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