"I renounce my membership in the Democratic Socialist of America" Congressman Shri Thanedar

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[AURex 2,054]

AOC and other Democratic members of Congress have also condemned DSA.

 

[DKW 86 7,481]

56 minutes ago, AURex said:

AOC and other Democratic members of Congress have also condemned DSA.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/10/aoc-pro-palestine-nyc-rally-00120684

The DSA just died as a political force. Where did these people come from? Left version of Q-Anon.

Edited October 12, 2023 by DKW 86

[I_M4_AU 8,056]

8 hours ago, DKW 86 said:

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/10/aoc-pro-palestine-nyc-rally-00120684

The DSA just died as a political force. Where did these people come from? Left version of Q-Anon.

Now you’ve done it.  There is no Antifa and BLM is a civil rights organization.  You should know that.  There is no far left organizations, so I’ve been told, only MAGA on the far right.

Ps, yes there are Blue MAGAs (using the MAGA term for extreme) like you have pointed out

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42 minutes ago, I_M4_AU said:

Now you’ve done it.  There is no Antifa and BLM is a civil rights organization.  You should know that.  There is no far left organizations, so I’ve been told, only MAGA on the far right.

Ps, yes there are Blue MAGAs (using the MAGA term for extreme) like you have pointed out

I know. 

The ANTIFA caucus of the Dems just voted out the Democrat house leader leadership for not being left wing enough. 

 

oh wait.... 

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1 hour ago, CoffeeTiger said:

I know. 

The ANTIFA caucus of the Dems just voted out the Democrat house leader leadership for not being left wing enough. 

 

oh wait.... 

Are you finally recognizing Antifa exists?  At least that’s a start.

[Didba 5,281]

6 minutes ago, I_M4_AU said:

 

Are you finally recognizing Antifa exists?  At least that’s a start.

I’d hope everyone would recognize that antifa exists since I’d also hope everyone would be anti-fascist. 

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1 hour ago, CoffeeTiger said:

I know. 

The ANTIFA caucus of the Dems just voted out the Democrat house leader leadership for not being left wing enough. 

 

oh wait....

"Desperately Seeking Equivalence"  

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55 minutes ago, Didba said:

I’d hope everyone would recognize that antifa exists since I’d also hope everyone would be anti-fascist. 

Really????  Does Antifa use facist tactic?  Yes, yes they do.  You have bought into the wordmark of that organization.

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2 minutes ago, I_M4_AU said:

Really????  Does Antifa use facist tactic?  Yes, yes they do.  You have bought into the wordmark of that organization.

It was a joke but do tell what are their authoritarian tactics?

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13 minutes ago, Didba said:

It was a joke but do tell what are their authoritarian tactics?

Obviously, he doesn't have a clue as to what fascism entails.

(Again, thanks for dealing with him.)

[DKW 86 7,481]

Someone roaming around in a pretend uniform bashing in the faces of anyone, ANYONE, they disagree with. Sounds like the Nazi Brownshirts to me. 

[I_M4_AU 8,056]

10 hours ago, Didba said:

It was a joke but do tell what are their authoritarian tactics?

The *protests* during the summer of discontent in 2020 that took place in Portland always sticks out.  Dressed in all black and having their mothers stand between them and the cops is one of the funniest things I think I have ever seen.

To answer your question; Antifa has authority over its members and uses that authority to have their members (lawyers) fire bomb cop cars in NYC and attach a police academy in Atlanta, Ga.

Remembering, you can only be authoritarian over the people you have power over.

[Didba 5,281]

11 hours ago, I_M4_AU said:

The *protests* during the summer of discontent in 2020 that took place in Portland always sticks out.  Dressed in all black and having their mothers stand between them and the cops is one of the funniest things I think I have ever seen.

To answer your question; Antifa has authority over its members and uses that authority to have their members (lawyers) fire bomb cop cars in NYC and attach a police academy in Atlanta, Ga.

Remembering, you can only be authoritarian over the people you have power over.

Why are you using the word authority in that manner?

Edited October 13, 2023 by Didba

[Didba 5,281]

15 hours ago, DKW 86 said:

Someone roaming around in a pretend uniform bashing in the faces of anyone, ANYONE, they disagree with. Sounds like the Nazi Brownshirts to me. 

Technically, comparing left extremists to Stalin’s version of brownshirts would be more correct than Nazi brownshirts but that’s just semantics and labels for the same thing just with different politics 

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12 hours ago, I_M4_AU said:

The *protests* during the summer of discontent in 2020 that took place in Portland always sticks out.  Dressed in all black and having their mothers stand between them and the cops is one of the funniest things I think I have ever seen.

To answer your question; Antifa has authority over its members and uses that authority to have their members (lawyers) fire bomb cop cars in NYC and attach a police academy in Atlanta, Ga.

Remembering, you can only be authoritarian over the people you have power over.

Another question, if those are the type of activities you would consider fascist/authoritarian, wouldn’t that make the activities of the participants in Jan 6 fascist/authoritarian? 

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1 hour ago, Didba said:

Another question, if those are the type of activities you would consider fascist/authoritarian, wouldn’t that make the activities of the participants in Jan 6 fascist/authoritarian? 

If there was an organization behind the activities, it would be.  There wasn’t that anyone can prove (it’s been 2 and 1/2 years of constant investigations).  Only speculation by the media and some in Congress.

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2 hours ago, Didba said:

Why are you using the word authority in that manner?

Because we are discussing people that are authoritarians.

Biden is an authoritarian by attempting to institute a vaccine mandate, some just don’t want to see it.

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13 minutes ago, I_M4_AU said:

If there was an organization behind the activities, it would be.  There wasn’t that anyone can prove (it’s been 2 and 1/2 years of constant investigations).  Only speculation by the media and some in Congress.

The same can be said for Antifa and the protests you cite. 

if you reply to this with “BLM” than my reply to that would be “Proud Boys.”

[Didba 5,281]

13 minutes ago, I_M4_AU said:

Because we are discussing people that are authoritarians.

Biden is an authoritarian by attempting to institute a vaccine mandate, some just don’t want to see it.

You are using authority and authoritarian incorrectly. Not trying to make a point with this, more-so, just letting you know. 

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1 minute ago, Didba said:

The same can be said for Antifa and the protests you cite. 

if you reply to this with “BLM” than my reply to that would be “Proud Boys.”

Yes, the media has been covering for them for a while now.  They have started to be scrutinized now that they are in front with the Palestinians, as are BLM.  Eventually they will expose themselves and they are about to.

[I_M4_AU 8,056]

2 minutes ago, Didba said:

You are using authority and authoritarian incorrectly. Not trying to make a point with this, more-so, just letting you know. 

What would be a better way of putting it?

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1 minute ago, I_M4_AU said:

Yes, the media has been covering for them for a while now.  They have started to be scrutinized now that they are in front with the Palestinians, as are BLM.  Eventually they will expose themselves and they are about to.

So then you agree that that the actions of the Jan 6 participants were authoritarian/fascist?

You can’t apply that label to the actions of the protests you cite without applying it to Jan 6 participants. 

[I_M4_AU 8,056]

5 minutes ago, Didba said:

So then you agree that that the actions of the Jan 6 participants were authoritarian/fascist?

No, just dumb.

 

6 minutes ago, Didba said:

You can’t apply that label to the actions of the protests you cite without applying it to Jan 6 participants. 

I do draw a distinction between being organized to protest (antifa) and a spontaneous action.  Show me what orgizantion had control over all the protesters on Jan 6th.

[Didba 5,281]

5 minutes ago, I_M4_AU said:

What would be a better way of putting it?

The tactics used by Russian and Chinese political organizations and their various branches to control opposition, oppress their populace, and maintain the power over the government. 

Traditionally, fascism is right wing authoritarianism and communism is left wing authoritarianism. Anti-fascist and anti-communists are not inherently authoritarian.

Nazi brown shirts are a great example of a civilian militia organization that acted at the direction of an authoritarian political party in the Nazi party of Germany. 

https://www.populismstudies.org/Vocabulary/authoritarianism/

this link explains it better than I ever could but at its core, authoritarian acts are those that aim to secure power for their political party, and prevent any other party from even participating in government.  IMO, neither Antifa/BLM or the Jan 6 participants/proud boys fit this bill.