DKW 86 7,975 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=200861 Dienhart's conferencecoaching rankings Big East ACC SEC Pac-10 Big 12 Big Ten BCS Coaches1. Pete Carroll, Southern California 2. Jim Tressel, Ohio State 3. Rich Rodriguez, West Virginia So bama paid more and got a worse coach? 4. Jim Grobe, Wake Forest 5. Bob Stoops, Oklahoma 6. Frank Beamer, Virginia Tech 7. Nick Saban, Alabama Better than Spurrier? 8. Steve Spurrier, South Carolina 9. Dennis Erickson, Arizona State 10. Mack Brown, Texas 11. Kirk Ferentz, Iowa 12. Urban Meyer, Florida 13. Tom O'Brien, N.C. State 14. Bobby Bowden, Florida State 15. Tommy Tuberville, Auburn 16. Lloyd Carr, Michigan 17. Mike Bellotti, Oregon 18. Joe Paterno, Penn State 19. Butch Davis, North Carolina 20. Houston Nutt, Arkansas 21. Bill Callahan, Nebraska 22. Jeff Tedford, Cal 23. Mark Richt, Georgia 24. Jim Leavitt, South Florida 25. Mike Riley, Oregon State 26. Mike Leach, Texas Tech 27. Steve Kragthorpe, Louisville 28. Ralph Friedgen, Maryland 29. Bobby Johnson, Vanderbilt 30. Chan Gailey, Georgia Tech 31. Phillip Fulmer, Tennessee 32. Joe Tiller, Purdue 33. Greg Schiano, Rutgers 34. Al Groh, Virginia 35. Mark Mangino, Kansas 36. Brian Kelly, Cincinnati 37. Dennis Franchione, Texas A&M 38. Dan Hawkins, Colorado 39. Bret Bielema, Wisconsin 40. Rich Brooks, Kentucky 41. Les Miles, LSU 42. Charlie Weis, Notre Dame 43. Gary Pinkel, Missouri 44. Mark Dantonio, Michigan State 45. Dave Wannstedt, Pitt 46. Terry Hoeppner, Indiana 47. Tommy Bowden, Clemson 48. Karl Dorrell, UCLA 49. Ron Zook, Illinois 50. Guy Morriss, Baylor 51. Mike Stoops, Arizona 52. Mike Gundy, Oklahoma State 53. Bill Doba, Washington State 54. Ty Willingham, Washington 55. Randy Edsall, UConn 56. Sylvester Croom, Mississippi State 57. Ron Prince, Kansas State 58. Tim Brewster, Minnesota 59. Ted Roof, Duke 60. Pat Fitzgerald, Northwestern 61. Jim Harbaugh, Stanford 62. Randy Shannon, Miami (Fla.) 63. Ed Orgeron, Ole Miss 64. Jeff Jagodzinski, Boston College 65. Greg Robinson, Syracuse 66. Gene Chizik, Iowa State http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=202898 UNTOUCHABLES Five coaches who can't be fired Frank Beamer, Virginia Tech Bobby Bowden, Florida State Mack Brown, Texas Joe Paterno, Penn State Jim Tressel, Ohio State YOUNG AND BEAUTIFUL Five best coaches 45 and younger Bret Bielema, Wisconsin (37 at the start of the season) Urban Meyer, Florida (43) Rich Rodriguez, West Virginia (44) Greg Schiano, Rutgers (41) Jeff Tedford, Cal (45) METHUSALAS Five best coaches 60 and over Frank Beamer, Virginia Tech (60 at the start of the season) Dennis Erickson, Arizona State (60) Ralph Friedgen, Maryland (60) Steve Spurrier, South Carolina (62) Joe Tiller, Purdue (64) BEWARE THE COACH Five most intimidating coaches WTH is Steve Spurrier? Ralph Friedgen, Maryland Does he still have a job? Al Groh, Virginia Does he still have a job? Les Miles, LSU Nick Saban, Alabama Mike Stoops, Arizona CALL THE MORGUE Five most laid-back coaches Rich Brooks, Kentucky Sylvester Croom, Mississippi State Karl Dorrell, UCLA Guy Morriss, Baylor Ty Willingham, Washington RODNEY DANGERFIELDS Five most underrated coaches Jim Grobe, Wake Forest Bobby Johnson, Vanderbilt Brian Kelly, Cincinnati Jim Leavitt, South Florida Mike Riley, Oregon State HOT AIR Five most overrated coaches Totally agree with this bunch. Lloyd Carr, Michigan Dennis Franchione, Texas A&M We knew that 7 years ago just looking at his record. Phillip Fulmer, Tennessee Les Miles, LSU I think the verdict is very much out on CLM. Charlie Weis, Notre Dame SWEET TALKERS Five best recruiting coaches Bobby Bowden, Florida State Mack Brown, Texas Pete Carroll, USC Jim Tressel, Ohio State Ron Zook, Illinois DEEP THINKERS Five best coaches at X-ing and O-ing WTH is Steve Spurrier? Mike Leach, Texas Tech Tom O'Brien, N.C. State Mark Richt, Georgia Rich Rodriguez, West Virginia Jeff Tedford, Cal RAH-RAH GUYS Five best fist-pumping enthusiastic coaches Pete Carroll, USC Tim Brewster, Minnesota Phillip Fulmer, Tennessee Terry Hoeppner, Indiana Houston Nutt, Arkansas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
townhallsavoy 2 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 What a silly waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickinwang 0 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 dennis erickson in the top 10? yes he won 2 nc's at miami BUT he also got the canes hammered pretty hard by the ncaa. he had the 1 good year at oregon state, but other than that i don't think he's done anything to deserve a top 10 ranking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarTim 3,534 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Funny thing. Coach Tubs OWNS a certain "other" coach that had "better" talent at the time. Hmmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev4AU07 0 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssgaufan 0 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 What horse's ass has this guy had his head stuck in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUesquire 1 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Yea, there's a few that I'd rate Tubs ahead of right off the bat. Jim Grobe (#4???) Kirk Ferentz (I know we've had the debate before but sorry, he ain't better than CTT) and Tom O'Brien????? And Mark Richt at 23? It's like he got going on the list and went, "Dang, forgot about Richt. Here, I'll throw him in at 23. No one will notice." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaGrad03 0 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Yeah the Big East has better coaches than the SEC...whatever. SEC has 4 NC coaches and another that went 13-0. Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WAR-MATT 2 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Yeah the Big East has better coaches than the SEC...whatever. SEC has 4 NC coaches and another that went 13-0. Nuff said. Couldn't of said it better myself. Other than RR, what other Big Least coach would even get an interview for an SEC job? None........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLink02 8 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 I still want someone to explain to me how Nutt is ahead of Richt. This is like the 3rd coach rankings I have seen this off-season with Richt behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinCrimson 61 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 Jim Grobe has one good season and is the 4th best coach in America? Better than the Saban's, Spurrier's, Tubervilles, Richt's, and Stoops' of the world? I've heard it all now. And, DKW, who do you really think is a better coach between Rich Rod and Saban? Honestly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tigrinum Major Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 RAH-RAH GUYS Five best fist-pumping enthusiastic coaches Pete Carroll, USC Tim Brewster, Minnesota Phillip Fulmer, Tennessee Terry Hoeppner, Indiana Houston Nutt, Arkansas Nutt does pump his fist, he pinches his hands together not unlike a large hyperactive crab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUHansel 0 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 I don't understand how he came up with these. I'll talk about the first 15 and then the SEC coaches. 1. Ok, gotta give it to Pete Carroll. 2. Tressel is a good coach. I think that Miami should have won in 02 on that pass interference call, but either way, he's won a national championship and 3 Big 11 titles. 3. Rich Rodriguez is a good coach, but not #3. He's taken WVa to 5 straight bowl games, but lost the first three. No matter what happened this year, the Big East is not a good conference. 4. Jim Grobe...are you freaking kidding me??? He is one game over .500 for his career and had one good year in a terrible ACC in 06. I don't see how this is warranted. 5. Bob Stoops, Oklahoma. Bob Stoops has shown us time and time again that he cannot win bowl games. Two national championship games and a loss to Boise State. They were getting hammered and if it weren't for some unbelievable fortune, they would have gotten stomped. Yes he won a national championship and several Big 12 titles, but the Big 12 hasn't been all that good except for Texas. He can recruit, but he's not a great big game coach. 6. Frank Beamer, Virginia Tech. Good coach, deserves to be in the top ten. Don't like the players he gets, but they tend to win games. Has 3 Big East championships and 1 ACC. Will be over 200 career wins in after the 2008 season. Hard to argue with that. 7. Nick Saban, Alabama. A lot of hype. He's a good coach, but not as great as everyone is talking right now. He is 91-42-1 for his NCAA career. MSU was nothing more than a mediocre team when he was there. Had 9 wins his last season there. He had more than 6 wins only one other season at MSU. Basically, he did a good job at LSU, but I'm still not buying the hype. He only deserves to be in the top 10 because of the MNC in 03. 8. Steve Spurrier, South Carolina. Does anything really need to be said about this guy. He's bringing SC to a level they've never tasted before. 9. Dennis Erickson, Arizona State. Really???? He hasn't been a great coach since the late 80's early 90's. His past success is different from Spurrier's. SS has already shown that he can compete with SEC teams. Erickson hasn't done very much since he's been back. Going from college to NFL to college to NFL to college again tells me he doesn't really fit. Doesn't deserve to be near the top ten. 10. Mack Brown, Texas. Pretty good coach. Couldn't beat Okie for a long time but finally got over the hump and then won the MNC. Probably a good spot for him. 11. Kirk Ferentz, Iowa. I don't get the hype. Seems like every year is the year Iowa is going to break through and compeat for the Big 10 championship. He's had the talent, but never put it together. Doesn't deserve a top 15 spot. 12. Urban Meyer, Florida. Meyer just won the MNC against a team that many in the media called "unbeatable." UF navigated the nations toughest schedule and only had one loss. He needs to be higher than 12 on here. Right now, gotta put him top 5. 13. Tom O'Brien, N.C. State. Decent coach, did pretty well at BC. Don't know if he's a top 20 coach, but not bad. We'll see if he can do anything with the wolf pack. 14. Bobby Bowden, Florida State. One of the all time greats, lost his touch in recent years. He can still recruit, but I don't see him competing for a NC anymore. 15. Tommy Tuberville, Auburn. I'm not gonna say much, but 15???? This guy is on drugs. 16. Lloyd Carr, Michigan 17. Mike Bellotti, Oregon 18. Joe Paterno, Penn State 19. Butch Davis, North Carolina 20. Houston Nutt, Arkansas. He always gets so much praise but all I've seen him do was have one good season and then rip the team apart. 21. Bill Callahan, Nebraska 22. Jeff Tedford, Cal 23. Mark Richt, Georgia. Needs to be right around the top ten. UGA hasn't seen the kind of success that he brought since Vince Dooley. 24. Jim Leavitt, South Florida 25. Mike Riley, Oregon State 26. Mike Leach, Texas Tech 27. Steve Kragthorpe, Louisville 28. Ralph Friedgen, Maryland 29. Bobby Johnson, Vanderbilt. Has done a lot without great players and in the nations toughest conference. Can't argue here. Although, I don't know why he's ahead of Fat Phil. 30. Chan Gailey, Georgia Tech 31. Phillip Fulmer, Tennessee. Lost a lot of what he had but is still a good coach. He's had the talent to win more SEC titles, but hasn't come through. I don't feel like typing anymore. 32. Joe Tiller, Purdue 33. Greg Schiano, Rutgers 34. Al Groh, Virginia 35. Mark Mangino, Kansas 36. Brian Kelly, Cincinnati 37. Dennis Franchione, Texas A&M 38. Dan Hawkins, Colorado 39. Bret Bielema, Wisconsin 40. Rich Brooks, Kentucky 41. Les Miles, LSU 42. Charlie Weis, Notre Dame 43. Gary Pinkel, Missouri 44. Mark Dantonio, Michigan State 45. Dave Wannstedt, Pitt 46. Terry Hoeppner, Indiana 47. Tommy Bowden, Clemson 48. Karl Dorrell, UCLA 49. Ron Zook, Illinois 50. Guy Morriss, Baylor 51. Mike Stoops, Arizona 52. Mike Gundy, Oklahoma State 53. Bill Doba, Washington State 54. Ty Willingham, Washington 55. Randy Edsall, UConn 56. Sylvester Croom, Mississippi State 57. Ron Prince, Kansas State 58. Tim Brewster, Minnesota 59. Ted Roof, Duke 60. Pat Fitzgerald, Northwestern 61. Jim Harbaugh, Stanford 62. Randy Shannon, Miami (Fla.) 63. Ed Orgeron, Ole Miss 64. Jeff Jagodzinski, Boston College 65. Greg Robinson, Syracuse 66. Gene Chizik, Iowa State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subterranean_jack 113 Posted May 4, 2007 Share Posted May 4, 2007 This is total B.S. The SEC has 4 coaches with MNCs (Spurrier, Fulmer, Saban, Meyer), not to mention coaches who have won BCS games like Tuberville and Miles. The Big East and ACC have how many coaches with MNCs combined? One - Bobby Bowden. Beamer will be in the HOF but how many MNCs does he have? I think the Big East and ACC have some up and coming coaches like Schiano, O'Brien, Leavitt, and Rodriguez, but they still have A LOT to prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellefay1 1 Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 the only thing that is intimidated by ralph friedgen is golden corral and al groh? getting shut out twice and losing to east carolina last year...1 win over virginia tech in 6 years? the sporting will remain bitter over the auburn 03 ranking/cover for the next... over/under 37 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerbait2010 0 Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 I'm perplexed he put Brooks ahead of Miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUesquire 1 Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 I'm perplexed he put Brooks ahead of Miles. Bait, you are dead on. Does this guy realize that the only reason that Brooks wasn't fired beofre last year is because Kentucky usually doesn't realize they have a football team. Anyone in the football world with half a brain was saying, "Well, Brooks is obviously a lame duck til they can find another no name replacement for him." Then, the guy has a decent year (For Kentucky...and it's about freakin' time) and suddnely he's a better coach than a man who's gone 22-4 in the last 2 years? This guy's credibility is shot with everyone in America....except ACC fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUslug 1 Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 I'm perplexed he put Brooks ahead of Miles. Bait, you are dead on. Does this guy realize that the only reason that Brooks wasn't fired beofre last year is because Kentucky usually doesn't realize they have a football team. Anyone in the football world with half a brain was saying, "Well, Brooks is obviously a lame duck til they can find another no name replacement for him." Then, the guy has a decent year (For Kentucky...and it's about freakin' time) and suddnely he's a better coach than a man who's gone 22-4 in the last 2 years? This guy's credibility is shot with everyone in America....except ACC fans. The ACC has fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUdmd07 2 Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 I'm perplexed he put Brooks ahead of Miles. Bait, you are dead on. Does this guy realize that the only reason that Brooks wasn't fired beofre last year is because Kentucky usually doesn't realize they have a football team. Anyone in the football world with half a brain was saying, "Well, Brooks is obviously a lame duck til they can find another no name replacement for him." Then, the guy has a decent year (For Kentucky...and it's about freakin' time) and suddnely he's a better coach than a man who's gone 22-4 in the last 2 years? This guy's credibility is shot with everyone in America....except ACC fans. Yeah, Brooks is a better coach then Miles. Especially since in their only meeting, Miles won 49-0. And this was in Brooks' "breakout" season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECEstudentUA 9 Posted May 5, 2007 Share Posted May 5, 2007 I still want someone to explain to me how Nutt is ahead of Richt. This is like the 3rd coach rankings I have seen this off-season with Richt behind him. I was going to say that this ranking is bogus because Houston Nutt is at #20.......yeah....right...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLink02 8 Posted May 6, 2007 Share Posted May 6, 2007 The ACC has fans? Some schools do like FSU Some schools don't like Georgia Tech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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