AUFAN78

Well homey, I actually agree with you.

Are you saying Trump wanted his supporters to attack police and the Capitol? Do we have evidence of that? Now that is true.

Well not typically, but we had intelligence indicating unrest. So at a minimum, you are prepared or should be. Look, I didn't agree with the protest, but again it is protected. I certainly don't agree with those that were violent. But for the record that was .091 percent of the crowd. We can't simply lump the entire crowd into a basket. That's my opinion. I get partisans will disagree. IIWII

The crowd estimated at 135K had the right to protest. I don't necessarily agree with their cause, but they had the right regardless. He knew the crowd were his supporters and he did ask them to go and peacefully protest. The gallows were being constructed in the predawn hours. Did he know about them? IDK. If so, obviously he should have called for the removal. Did he know some in the crowd would attack police? Again IDK. Asking them to peacefully protest perhaps he had an inkling. If so, he had a responsibility to warn against and condemn such activity. His actions post-riot were terrible. Indefensible IMO. He shares some responsibility in the march/protest, but again, I think that is a protected right. And he certainly has some responsibility for not calling off the violence sooner. The J6 trial will shed more light on the matter. Multiple people were pleading with him to call it off. I don't agree the protests were indefensible. I may not agree with the cause, but it is a right under the First Amendment. I do agree the violence and Trump's lack of response were indefensible. I cannot speak for others, but I'm not sure I've seen anyone minimizing the violence. This thread has covered both the lack of security measures and post Capitol attack. Both are relevant and should be addressed. Doing so is not minimalization.

I read it. Not my goal. Pardon the pun.

I've answered your questions, yes the ones you keep repeating, multiple times. Don't blame me that you are stuck in an endless loop of stupidity.

Are you referring to the protest or the riot?

Well, it doesn't have to be hard. Mistakes were made and accountability has to happen. Will it? Trump will lose and once again complain the election was stolen and that will be the end of it. Republicans will hopefully move on from Trump, heal, and become the GOP again. Time will tell.

Damn. What a thread. And I was stopping by just to say Congrats to Bo and family.

For J6? Not to my knowledge. I doubt he thinks he did anything wrong.

I have to profess, that is precisely how I feel lately trying to educate you on this topic.

First, thanks for the concession. I have discussed both. You seem to dismiss the prevention phase. Why? Do you even read the threads? These questions have been answered multiple times, yet here you go asking again. It's tiring frankly.

Incorrect. It's both.

Perhaps I missed the post, but I've seen no one defending the actions of those who violently attacked the Capitol. Discussing what could have prevented the attack is a different topic. There were hearings on the hill last week trying to identify preventative measures.

The 10,000 was from the testimony of multiple individuals in the room on the J3 meeting. If I recall correctly, 20,000 may have been mentioned. Taxpayers?

Apologies. I misinterpreted your post. I think 77 nailed it: That false belief was pushed by right wing media. Fox "News", OAN etc etc.... A small group of self promoting con artists, spearheaded by Sidney Powell, then told Trump what he wanted to hear, instead of the truth.

Thinking she was never getting PETA votes. And I kinda think the Donald wasn't either.

Your endless loop of stupidity continues. Go figure.

But at the end of the day, you have to remember -- serving in his administration, I was fine with his policies. I think his policies were good policies. My problems came with his behavior which I found very troubling after the election. And I think the idea that he's going to be an autocrat and take over power like some right-wing dictator is not the threat facing our country. The threat to our country is from the far-left and the drift that's been occurring toward really a socialistic system and one that brooks no opposition, that cancels people, that has only one viewpoint taught in colleges that -- you know, tries to push parents out of the picture when it comes to the education of their children. It is a heavy-handed bunch of thugs, in my opinion, and that's where the threat is. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/04/21/bill_barr_far-left_radicals_not_trump_are_the_real_threat_to_this_country.html

Here is a different takeaway.

More like dumbfounded at your endless loop of stupidity.

You can look no further than your commentary on this thread as a prime example of said weaseling. Yes homey, you are still the King Weasel. And no, the title is not in jeopardy. My contention is clear. 10,000 troops prevent the Capitol breach.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/whos-voting-robert-kennedy-jr

I get the error in posting in the wrong forum. It happens. Posting content from a known unhinged mental patient isn't a good look. Allowing it to remain in a serious forum is nuts.

I've always enjoyed the Bee. Some don't get the satire. I hate it for them. My favs are when Snopes fact-checks them.