AU64 10,122 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 4 hours ago, homersapien said: Sorry, but citing "wingnut" articles is not very convincing. No rational person would describe Obama as a radical. You are cementing your reputation as being irrational. So I take it that anyone who disagrees with you is irrational.? It is nice to have such confidence in one's intellectual skills. ... Though that confidence is badly misplaced. The wingnuts of the world are people like Rev. Wright and Professor Ayers and others of their ilk who have promoted and supported Obama in his rise to power. ...and sounds like you might be one of them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,488 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 On 5/19/2017 at 2:47 PM, AU64 said: So I take it that anyone who disagrees with you is irrational.? It is nice to have such confidence in one's intellectual skills. ... Though that confidence is badly misplaced. The wingnuts of the world are people like Rev. Wright and Professor Ayers and others of their ilk who have promoted and supported Obama in his rise to power. ...and sounds like you might be one of them too. You can take it that anyone who claims Obama is a "radical" is irrational. It doesn't matter who supported him in his "rise to power", which is an illogical argument to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDavE 332 Posted May 19, 2017 Share Posted May 19, 2017 On 5/18/2017 at 8:14 AM, homersapien said: What's radical about Democratic positions? Clinton was no radical. Neither was Obama. To my thinking Socialist is a better definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,531 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 13 hours ago, WDavE said: To my thinking Socialist is a better definition. Then you don't understand socialism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUDub 11,187 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 1 hour ago, TitanTiger said: Then you don't understand socialism. Yeah, they are hardly the dictionary definition of socialist. For that matter, neither is Bernie, who calls himself such. He would be a social democrat in Europe. He favors the Nordic model, which doesn't entail state ownership of the means of production. Rather, free enterprise with a heavy emphasis on redistribution and social welfare. The politician he probably has the most in common with in Europe would probably be Corbyn of England's Labour Party. Bernie used the word in an attempt to remove the stigma associated with it, which isn't a terrible thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,973 Posted May 20, 2017 Share Posted May 20, 2017 8 hours ago, Bigbens42 said: Yeah, they are hardly the dictionary definition of socialist. For that matter, neither is Bernie, who calls himself such. He would be a social democrat in Europe. He favors the Nordic model, which doesn't entail state ownership of the means of production. Rather, free enterprise with a heavy emphasis on redistribution and social welfare. The politician he probably has the most in common with in Europe would probably be Corbyn of England's Labour Party. Bernie used the word in an attempt to remove the stigma associated with it, which isn't a terrible thing. I think he used it to differentiate himself from the status quo. It hurt him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,753 Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 I believe both parties are led by undercurrents and backroom cronies. Regardless of what we "see" they are both bought and paid for by the establishment puppet masters behind the curtain. I supported and still support Gov. Kasich because he MAKES SENSE! He has experience and I believe his heart is in the right place. Unfortunately that is no longer a way to the White House. Emotions and money are. Personally I hate the two party disaster but I know a good man/woman in leadership when I see one....my opinion of course. God Save the Republic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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