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28 minutes ago, pensacolatiger said:

Not hating on you bud, but you voted for this 

Nope. Trump lost votes because of his mouth. It's on him.

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If corporate news media wants to know why Americans don’t trust it anymore, they should look no further than the shameful, outrageous, and patently false coverage of the resolution adopted by the RNC to censure Reps. Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger.

https://townhall.com/columnists/ronnamcdaniel/2022/02/08/the-media-is-distorting-republican-censure-of-cheney-kinzinger-n2603021

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On 2/9/2022 at 8:56 AM, creed said:

Nope. Trump lost votes because of his mouth. It's on him.

His mouth definitely cost him votes, but if you didn’t vote for him you helped Brandon get elected.  I didn’t think anyone would ever perform as poorly as Carter in our lifetimes, lol - look at year 1!

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On 2/9/2022 at 9:31 PM, AUFAN78 said:

If corporate news media wants to know why Americans don’t trust it anymore, they should look no further than the shameful, outrageous, and patently false coverage of the resolution adopted by the RNC to censure Reps. Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger.

https://townhall.com/columnists/ronnamcdaniel/2022/02/08/the-media-is-distorting-republican-censure-of-cheney-kinzinger-n2603021

The title is enough to know how pathetic and disgusting the resolution is.

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On 2/4/2022 at 12:16 PM, AUFAN78 said:

I'm sure plenty agree with that sentiment. Here is the struggle: the same characters that orchestrated the Russia Hoax are orchestrating this so called investigation. Think about the fact these characters knew for years the origins of the Russia Hoax, knew it wasn't true yet willingly participated and lied to the American people. They tried to overturn an election of a sitting president over a lie they created. So pardon me if I or anyone is skeptical of those willingly participating in this so called investigation.

The ONLY people still talking about the "Russia Hoax" are those that are still being convinced that it is important in some way, although it isn't.

Ambassador to the EU Gordon Sondland:  “I now do recall a conversation on September 1, 2019, in Warsaw with” Andriy Yermak, a top adviser to the president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, Sondland said in his updated evidence. “I said that resumption of the US aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anticorruption statement that we had been discussing for many weeks.”

Was this done at the direction of the President?  Yes

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19 hours ago, AU9377 said:

The title is enough to know how pathetic and disgusting the resolution is.

Didn't read the article. :gofig:

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19 hours ago, AU9377 said:

The ONLY people still talking about the "Russia Hoax" are those that are still being convinced that it is important in some way, although it isn't.

It should be important to all Americans.

Think about the fact these characters knew for years the origins of the Russia Hoax, knew it wasn't true yet willingly participated and lied to the American people. They tried to overturn an election of a sitting president over a lie they created. 

We'll see how important it was at midterms. 

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22 hours ago, AU9377 said:

Ambassador to the EU Gordon Sondland:  “I now do recall a conversation on September 1, 2019, in Warsaw with” Andriy Yermak, a top adviser to the president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, Sondland said in his updated evidence. “I said that resumption of the US aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anticorruption statement that we had been discussing for many weeks.”

Was this done at the direction of the President?  Yes

The president’s hold on defense aid was temporary, and Ukraine got all of it. The Zelensky government did not have to commence or assist any investigations to get it. The delay caused no material harm.

The Constitution gives the president sweeping foreign-affairs authority, so Trump would arguably have had the power to decline to deliver the aid altogether. This, by contrast, was merely a temporary delay that was of no consequence to Ukraine’s defense. If we were talking about any other president, some criticism would be in order. To portray what happened as an impeachable offense is just the next stage in a tireless political campaign. It trivializes impeachment.

It is precious indeed to hear Democrats complain that Ukraine was imperiled by the hold on defense aid. President Obama refused to provide Ukraine with any lethal defense aid after Russia began attacking it and seizing territory in 2014. President Trump has been providing it and has imposed tough sanctions on Russia. The Democrats’ sudden obsession over Ukraine’s well-being, like their newfound angst over the geopolitical challenge posed by Russia, is political posturing.

Most of the assistance the president sought from Ukraine was unobjectionable. It is common for presidents to ask their foreign counterparts to assist Justice Department investigations. House Democrats will not acknowledge this because they seek to delegitimize the Barr/Durham probe as a Trump 2020 campaign initiative; but it is not.

It was not improper for Trump to seek information about Joe Biden’s squeezing of Kyiv to fire the prosecutor. That could plainly be relevant to the Barr/Durham investigation.

It is not like President Trump concocted the Biden self-dealing scenario out of whole cloth. There is plenty of evidence to support corruption suspicions that should be explored by our government.

It was inappropriate for the president to point the Ukrainians specifically and explicitly at the Bidens. A more polished president would simply have said, “We want you to root out corruption, no matter how high up it goes, even in our own government” — the Ukrainians would have gotten the point and there would be nothing to criticize. Trump went about it crudely. Commendable? Of course not. A valid reason to vote against him in 2020? Surely. But it’s not impeachable.

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