Tigermike 3,055 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 LSU `tradition' little more than hooliganism Friday, October 21, 2005 Condoleezza Rice is headed in the wrong direction. If the secretary of state wants to go to a game, and she cares about homeland security, she should skip Tuscaloosa and jet straight to Baton Rouge. If there's a game in need of a high-ranking diplomat to help keep the peace, it's Auburn-LSU. Consider Auburn's experience on its recent trips to Death Valley. The team bus has been rocked. The head coach's family has been taunted. To say nothing of the rude manner in which the home team has treated the visitors on the field. It all adds to the urban legend of Tiger Stadium as one of college football's toughest places to play. Urban Meyer might believe it - his first trip there with Florida last week reduced him to tears - but it's really an urban myth. Consider some recent scores that were settled in Tiger Stadium: Auburn 41, LSU 7. Alabama 31, LSU 0. UAB 13, LSU 10. Three of this state's four Division I-A programs have let the good times roll there since 1999. Troy was a play away last year from making it four of four. That near-miss, like the UAB upset in 2000 and the Alabama shutout in 2002, happened on Nick Saban's watch. And Saban was the best coach LSU has known, the best coach the SEC has seen since Steve Spurrier lived in Gainesville. But even the best man on the sideline didn't have the best home record. Only once during Saban's five seasons at LSU did the Tigers run the table at home. During the 2003 BCS championship season, they suffered their lone defeat at home to a Florida team coached by Ron Zook. In contrast, Tommy Tuberville's Auburn teams have gone undefeated in Jordan-Hare Stadium twice in the past five years. In 2000, they won the SEC West. In 2004, they went undefeated everywhere and won the SEC. For a real home-field advantage, see Spurrier at Florida. In 12 years there, his teams lost exactly five times in the Swamp. Fans can make a lot of noise - LSU fans seem to think pregame and postgame intimidation of the visitors is a tradition - but the best teams tend to have the best home records. A Tennessee official recently sent an Auburn official a picture. It was taken from inside a team bus during Tennessee's trip to LSU in September. In the foreground of the picture is a broken bus window. In the background is a swarm of LSU fans. The Vols were so intimidated they erased a three-touchdown deficit and bounced back to win in overtime. Four years ago, the LSU chancellor apologized to Auburn for the unruly behavior of some fans after LSU's 27-14 win. Wideout Devin Aromashodu has ``bad memories" of Auburn's visit two years ago, and not just because the Tigers lost 31-7. ``They were throwing stuff at the bus," he said. ``We didn't have Tiger Walk. I had never seen anything like it." Don't expect flowers and chocolates Saturday. Some actual security would be nice, but winning is the best answer. Otherwise, objecting sounds like whining. Kevin Scarbinsky's column appears Sunday, Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Write him at kscarbinsky@bhamnews.com. Birmingham News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supatigah 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Yeah but it is just another game right? Far less important than the georgia game according to the rivalry thread. Also did this columnist really say SABAN WAS THE BEST SEC COACH SINCE SPURRIER? dang Tommy T, had to hurt reading that this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tigrinum Major Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 In an unpublished part of the column, Scarbinsky said that Pelini was the best DC in the conference since Lou Tepper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texaubie 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Also did this columnist really say SABAN WAS THE BEST SEC COACH SINCE SPURRIER? Key word is WAS!!! Miles IS not the best coach in the SEC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supatigah 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 In an unpublished part of the column, Scarbinsky said that Pelini was the best DC in the conference since Lou Tepper. 191086[/snapback] so he lost all credibility with the unpublished prose hunh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floridatigah 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 In the past 4 years we've lost 3 games at TS (UT this year, UF two years ago, Bama three years ago), not too bad. Just for comparison sake, has lost 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supatigah 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Also did this columnist really say SABAN WAS THE BEST SEC COACH SINCE SPURRIER? Key word is WAS!!! Miles IS not the best coach in the SEC. 191090[/snapback] Who said anything about Les Miles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vatz22au 142 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Again...Wheres SEC FAN when this stuff is on the news and we actually provide the source? He only seems to reply to everyone else's accusations...but when proof is out, he hides tail and runs off. Please feel free to deny these accusations as well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLink02 8 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 UAB 13, LSU 10. I was there for that game!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegalEagle 22 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Just wanted to see my new signature. . . . Is there an Elvis in the house?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vatz22au 142 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Just wanted to see my new signature. . . . 191122[/snapback] lol NICE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermike 3,055 Posted October 21, 2005 Author Share Posted October 21, 2005 Yeah but it is just another game right? Far less important than the georgia game according to the rivalry thread. Also did this columnist really say SABAN WAS THE BEST SEC COACH SINCE SPURRIER? dang Tommy T, had to hurt reading that this morning. 191085[/snapback] Don't stop there little Buddy, read the rest: But even the best man on the sideline didn't have the best home record. Only once during Saban's five seasons at LSU did the Tigers run the table at home. During the 2003 BCS championship season, they suffered their lone defeat at home to a Florida team coached by Ron Zook. In contrast, Tommy Tuberville's Auburn teams have gone undefeated in Jordan-Hare Stadium twice in the past five years. In 2000, they won the SEC West. In 2004, they went undefeated everywhere and won the SEC. Three of this state's four Division I-A programs have let the good times roll there since 1999. Troy was a play away last year from making it four of four. That near-miss, like the UAB upset in 2000 and the Alabama shutout in 2002, happened on Nick Saban's watch. And Saban was the best coach LSU has known, the best coach the SEC has seen since Steve Spurrier lived in Gainesville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supatigah 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 I caught it the first time. So what does that mean? He didn't say TommyT was the best SEC coach since Spurrier did he? Poor Tommy T. can't even get respect from his own state columnists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texaubie 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Also did this columnist really say SABAN WAS THE BEST SEC COACH SINCE SPURRIER? Key word is WAS!!! Miles IS not the best coach in the SEC. 191090[/snapback] Who said anything about Les Miles? 191097[/snapback] Just reminding you of who your current coach is so that you don't continue to live in the past. How long is that agreement LSU signed with Miles???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermike 3,055 Posted October 21, 2005 Author Share Posted October 21, 2005 No reminding you that the best coach you ever had could not run the table. Got beat by UAB! UAB! The best coach you ever had got beat by UAB! UAB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supatigah 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 No reminding you that the best coach you ever had could not run the table. Got beat by UAB! UAB! The best coach you ever had got beat by UAB! UAB! 191160[/snapback] yeah that first year was pretty bad. the second year was good though. the third year was a bit of a let down. the fourth was all time great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SECond2none 0 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 No reminding you that the best coach you ever had could not run the table. Got beat by UAB! UAB! The best coach you ever had got beat by UAB! UAB! 191160[/snapback] Wow, it's almost as if he was rebuilding a team that went 4-7 and 3-8 in it's previous 2 years. No wait...he was doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigermike 3,055 Posted October 22, 2005 Author Share Posted October 22, 2005 No reminding you that the best coach you ever had could not run the table. Got beat by UAB! UAB! The best coach you ever had got beat by UAB! UAB! 191160[/snapback] Wow, it's almost as if he was rebuilding a team that went 4-7 and 3-8 in it's previous 2 years. No wait...he was doing that. 191224[/snapback] Rebuilding with all those great recruits that DiNardo left him. If I remember correctly you guys were singing the praises of DiNardo's recruiting classes right up to the day he was fired. It is still strange how players at Vanderbilt would play hard and look somewhat good at times while DiNardo was there but even with better players at LSU, he couldn't get over the hump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux75 0 Posted October 22, 2005 Share Posted October 22, 2005 When Saban was here, we got 2 SEC Championships and one BCS Championship, I think I can forgive him for the UAB loss. What do ya'll have with Tubby now, one SEC championshsip? YOu have some catching up to do, before you can throw those stones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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