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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,257745,00.html

Apparently a few newspapers have stopped carrying Ann Coulter's syndicated column as a result of the barrage of complaints by liberal bloggers, activists, and readers.

Sure, it's completely copacetic for that fat, man hating, femi-nazi lesbian Rosie O'Donnell to suggest on national tv that Christianity is as much of a threat to the world as radical Islam. Nothing happens to her as a result. She doesn't get fired, get reprimanded, nothing. It's also completely copacetic for that self loathing homo Elton John to say that Christianity should be abolished worldwide. Yet, his record label hasn't cancelled their contract with him to my knowledge.

John Kerry calls our troops idiots. Nothing happens to him. He falsely accused his Vietnam "Band of Brothers" of war crimes. The DNC rewards him with the presidential nomination in 2004.

Dick Durbin calls our troops at Gitmo Nazis. Nothing happens to him.

Henry Bellefante says that "America should burn". Nothing happens to him.

Hollywood Celiberals like Leonardo DiCaprio, Kevin Costner, Danny Glover, and various others "chill out" with Fidel Castro, an enemy of this country and nothing happens to them.

The lead singer of the "Pretenders" says that she hopes and I quote, "that the Muslims win". Nothing happens to her.

The difference between the aforementioned traitors and the Dixie Chicks is that the vast majority of the Chicks listening audience are comprised of Bush and Iraq War supporters. The media didn't punish them severely like they have punished Coulter. The DC audience punished them merely by "flipping the switch" on the radio.

Should I go on? I have several more examples but I don't want to waste board space with them.

The same people like John Edwards and Rosie O'Donnell who are so dedicated to ending the "politics of personal hatred" and are so incensed because Ann Coulter uttered the word "gay person," are the same ones who have long ignored the threat of radical Islam. They ignore all the terrorism, all the bombings, all the beheadings, all the Muslim cartoons that glorify suicide bombers and glorify Jew hatred, etc.

Maybe these fools will start paying attention to the real enemy when they have finally defeated conservatives but I doubt it. They're already on their way to silencing someone they disagree with.

Just remember that liberalism is a fancy guise of socialism. Karl Marx would be proud.

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Just remember that liberalism is a fancy guise of socialism. Karl Marx would be proud.

Now Drew, that is just plain mean, they don't like the word socialism or socialists, they are progressives now. :)

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You know, I really don't care if you want to be so idealistic that you hate others simply because they are on another 'team', but, at least have the courtesy to hate them for what they actually said or did, not some made-up version of reality.

Sure, it's completely copacetic for that fat, man hating, femi-nazi lesbian Rosie O'Donnell to suggest on national tv that Christianity is as much of a threat to the world as radical Islam.

No, she didn't. Look it up.

It's also completely copacetic for that self loathing homo Elton John to say that Christianity should be abolished worldwide.

No, he didn't. Look it up.

John Kerry calls our troops idiots.

No, he didn't Look it up.

Nothing happens to him. (Kerry)

Yes, something did. Look it up.

Dick Durbin calls our troops at Gitmo Nazis.

No, he didn't. Look it up.

Henry Bellefante Harry Belefonte says that "America should burn".

No, he didn't. Look it up.

Hollywood Celiberals like Leonardo DiCaprio, Kevin Costner, Danny Glover, and various others "chill out" with Fidel Castro, an enemy of this country and nothing happens to them.

You forgot Steven Spielberg.

Hate anybody you want, just hate them for legitimate reasons.

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You know, I really don't care if you want to be so idealistic that you hate others simply because they are on another 'team', but, at least have the courtesy to hate them for what they actually said or did, not some made-up version of reality.

Sure, it's completely copacetic for that fat, man hating, femi-nazi lesbian Rosie O'Donnell to suggest on national tv that Christianity is as much of a threat to the world as radical Islam.

No, she didn't. Look it up.

It's also completely copacetic for that self loathing homo Elton John to say that Christianity should be abolished worldwide.

No, he didn't. Look it up.

John Kerry calls our troops idiots.

No, he didn't Look it up.

Nothing happens to him. (Kerry)

Yes, something did. Look it up.

Dick Durbin calls our troops at Gitmo Nazis.

No, he didn't. Look it up.

Henry Bellefante Harry Belefonte says that "America should burn".

No, he didn't. Look it up.

Hollywood Celiberals like Leonardo DiCaprio, Kevin Costner, Danny Glover, and various others "chill out" with Fidel Castro, an enemy of this country and nothing happens to them.

You forgot Steven Spielberg.

Hate anybody you want, just hate them for legitimate reasons.

WOW, a complete state of denial. We don't hate when we disagree, that is for you liberals.

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WOW, a complete state of denial. We don't hate when we disagree, that is for you liberals.

Then help your buddy out by looking up the facts with her. Report back your findings.

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Wow. Ok.

Sure, it's completely copacetic for that fat, man hating, femi-nazi lesbian Rosie O'Donnell to suggest on national tv that Christianity is as much of a threat to the world as radical Islam.

No, she didn't. Look it up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RXiXwFB9co

It's also completely copacetic for that self loathing homo Elton John to say that Christianity should be abolished worldwide.

No, he didn't. Look it up.

http://atheistrevolution.blogspot.com/2006...went-wrong.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6140710.stm

John Kerry calls our troops idiots.

No, he didn't Look it up.

Dick Durbin calls our troops at Gitmo Nazis.

No, he didn't. Look it up.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050619-125543-6256r.htm

Henry Bellefante Harry Belefonte says that "America should burn".

No, he didn't. Look it up.

Well, actually that was Louis Farakhan, but he still said this.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10767465/

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Well, actually that was Louis Farakhan, but he still said this.

Very good. Keep going.

Are you that set in your denial?

What do you refuse to believe?

The video clips of them actually saying these things, or the news articles that report everything you say never happened, did in fact happen?

Are you being a stickler for the exact wording? Because these people's comments were far closer to drewau02's paraphrasing than saying that Anne Coulter called John Edwards a f@ggot.

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Well, actually that was Louis Farakhan, but he still said this.

Very good. Keep going.

Are you that set in your denial?

What do you refuse to believe?

The video clips of them actually saying these things, or the news articles that report everything you say never happened, did in fact happen?

Are you being a stickler for the exact wording? Because these people's comments were far closer to drewau02's paraphrasing than saying that Anne Coulter called John Edwards a f@ggot.

Sorry, AUChizad, but, yes, words matter. They mean things.

drewau02 said O'Donnell said, "that Christianity is as much of a threat to the world as radical Islam." That's not what she said and one word changes the entire meaning. What she actually said was, "Radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam in a country like America where we have a separation of church and state. We're a democracy here." Unless you think she meant ALL Christians are radical there's a big difference.

drewau02 said Elton John said, "that Christianity should be abolished worldwide." What he actually said was, "I just find it more human. We should all be together. I've got this really naive idea of what life should be like - it's an idealistic idea but it's completely integrated. We can't keep thinking of gay people as being ostracised; we can't keep thinking of Muslim people as being [ostracised] because of the fundamentalism that occurs in Islam. Muslim people have to do something about speaking up about it. We can't judge a book by its cover.

From my point of view I would ban religion completely, even though there are some wonderful things about it. I love the idea of the teachings of Jesus Christ and the beautiful stories about it, which I loved in Sunday school and I collected all the little stickers and put them in my book. But the reality is that organised religion doesn't seem to work. It turns people into hateful lemmings and it's not really compassionate." Oddly enough, this is the same sentiment many Christians profess themselves when asked about their religious preference. They say religion is of man and they prefer to 'walk with Jesus.'

drewau02 said John Kerry "calls our troops idiots." What he actually said was, "Education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. And if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq." He says it was a botched joke and should've said "you get US stuck in Iraq" and was a knock on Bush. I believe him and most here don't. We don't need to re-debate that as it's been done ad nauseum already. drewau02 further says that nothing happened as a result of what he said. I'd say dropping out of contention for the 2008 presidential election because of it IS something.

drewau02 said Dick Durbin "called out troops at Gitmo Nazis." What Durbin actually said was, "If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime -- Pol Pot or others -- that had no concern for human beings," Durbin said. "Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners." That statement was in reply to an FBI account of how Guantanamo prisoners had been chained to their cells in extreme temperatures and deprived of food and water. I wouldn't have believed it was Americans, either.

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You know, I really don't care if you want to be so idealistic that you hate others simply because they are on another 'team', but, at least have the courtesy to hate them for what they actually said or did, not some made-up version of reality.

Sure, it's completely copacetic for that fat, man hating, femi-nazi lesbian Rosie O'Donnell to suggest on national tv that Christianity is as much of a threat to the world as radical Islam.

No, she didn't. Look it up.

It's also completely copacetic for that self loathing homo Elton John to say that Christianity should be abolished worldwide.

No, he didn't. Look it up.

John Kerry calls our troops idiots.

No, he didn't Look it up.

Nothing happens to him. (Kerry)

Yes, something did. Look it up.

Dick Durbin calls our troops at Gitmo Nazis.

No, he didn't. Look it up.

Henry Bellefante Harry Belefonte says that "America should burn".

No, he didn't. Look it up.

Hollywood Celiberals like Leonardo DiCaprio, Kevin Costner, Danny Glover, and various others "chill out" with Fidel Castro, an enemy of this country and nothing happens to them.

You forgot Steven Spielberg.

Hate anybody you want, just hate them for legitimate reasons.

TigerAl,

I'm not claiming to hate anyone on this page. I'm just detailing the hypocrisy on the left. I don't care what any of the aforementioned losers said because I a) did not vote for any of them or B) I don't listen to their music of watch their movies. My purpose for this post was to illustrate the hypocrisy on the left. If liberals are so incensed by what Ann Coulter says and are so insistent upon silencing her, then I feel obligated to point out their record as well. If they want her silinced then fine, but they need to call for the silencing of a few of their champions in return. I don't know you, but I sure as hell don't appreciate you calling me a liar. I'm not making any of this up. Here's my response to your response.

Rosie O'Donnell. Go to youtube and look it up Mr. Fact detector. How do you think I was able to quote that fat pig verbatim on this page? I've seen the clip so many times that I remember every last word she said.

Elton John. Same deal. He said it. Why are you denying this when there is a million different clips of him saying that Christianity should be outlawed? Let's see if Sir Elton John has the same fortitude and makes similar statements about Islam. Yeah right, like it's ever gonna happen.

John Kerry. "If you don't study hard and get good grades, you end up stuck in Iraq." Surely he didn't mean President Bush, the same man who had a better college GPA than he did; not the same man who has an MBA from Harvard Business School. Based on his past criticisms and accusations against American soldiers, you would have to infer that this statement was directed at them, and not President Bush. What about the time he told Tim Russert that our men in Iraq were, and I quote, "terrorizing children and women in the dead of night." Should I continue? Or are you still ocnvinced that I'm making all of this up?

Dick Durbin. "Based on the information that I just gave you, one would have to conclude that these were the actions of Nazis, Paul Pot, or henchmen in Soviet Gulags." Should I continue? If our men and women are behaving like Nazis in Guitmo, then my logical deduction, they are Nazis. The brutality of Nazis in particular is so legendary that when one accuses you of acting like a Nazi, he is implying that you are a Nazi.

Henry Bellefante. Actually, the America should burn comment is not the worst thing that he has ever said. Would you like for me to throw a few more quotes of Bellefante's at you? Or are you still convinced that I'm making all of this up?

Regarding Fidel Castro's Hollywood buddies, the bastions of political correctness, free speech, and freedom for all, mainly minorities and gays; Kate Moss and Cameron Diaz have spent some time in his Cuban mansion as well.

I forgot to mention Jane Fonda. Need I say more? Or let me guess, you're gonna accuse me of making the whole "chilling out with the enemy during Vietnam" thing?

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Well, actually that was Louis Farakhan, but he still said this.

Very good. Keep going.

Are you that set in your denial?

What do you refuse to believe?

The video clips of them actually saying these things, or the news articles that report everything you say never happened, did in fact happen?

Are you being a stickler for the exact wording? Because these people's comments were far closer to drewau02's paraphrasing than saying that Anne Coulter called John Edwards a f@ggot.

Sorry, AUChizad, but, yes, words matter. They mean things.

drewau02 said O'Donnell said, "that Christianity is as much of a threat to the world as radical Islam." That's not what she said and one word changes the entire meaning. What she actually said was, "Radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam in a country like America where we have a separation of church and state. We're a democracy here." Unless you think she meant ALL Christians are radical there's a big difference.

drewau02 said Elton John said, "that Christianity should be abolished worldwide." What he actually said was, "I just find it more human. We should all be together. I've got this really naive idea of what life should be like - it's an idealistic idea but it's completely integrated. We can't keep thinking of gay people as being ostracised; we can't keep thinking of Muslim people as being [ostracised] because of the fundamentalism that occurs in Islam. Muslim people have to do something about speaking up about it. We can't judge a book by its cover.

From my point of view I would ban religion completely, even though there are some wonderful things about it. I love the idea of the teachings of Jesus Christ and the beautiful stories about it, which I loved in Sunday school and I collected all the little stickers and put them in my book. But the reality is that organised religion doesn't seem to work. It turns people into hateful lemmings and it's not really compassionate." Oddly enough, this is the same sentiment many Christians profess themselves when asked about their religious preference. They say religion is of man and they prefer to 'walk with Jesus.'

drewau02 said John Kerry "calls our troops idiots." What he actually said was, "Education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. And if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq." He says it was a botched joke and should've said "you get US stuck in Iraq" and was a knock on Bush. I believe him and most here don't. We don't need to re-debate that as it's been done ad nauseum already. drewau02 further says that nothing happened as a result of what he said. I'd say dropping out of contention for the 2008 presidential election because of it IS something.

drewau02 said Dick Durbin "called out troops at Gitmo Nazis." What Durbin actually said was, "If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime -- Pol Pot or others -- that had no concern for human beings," Durbin said. "Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners." That statement was in reply to an FBI account of how Guantanamo prisoners had been chained to their cells in extreme temperatures and deprived of food and water. I wouldn't have believed it was Americans, either.

Semantics. You're nitpicking. As I said in my previous post, just because he paraphrased, he didn't diminish the intent of the statements. He didn't twist their words and take them out of context in order for them to take on new meaning. Certainly no more than saying that Anne Coulter's statements were her directly calling John Edwards a f@ggot.

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Well, actually that was Louis Farakhan, but he still said this.

Very good. Keep going.

Are you that set in your denial?

What do you refuse to believe?

The video clips of them actually saying these things, or the news articles that report everything you say never happened, did in fact happen?

Are you being a stickler for the exact wording? Because these people's comments were far closer to drewau02's paraphrasing than saying that Anne Coulter called John Edwards a f@ggot.

Sorry, AUChizad, but, yes, words matter. They mean things.

drewau02 said O'Donnell said, "that Christianity is as much of a threat to the world as radical Islam." That's not what she said and one word changes the entire meaning. What she actually said was, "Radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam in a country like America where we have a separation of church and state. We're a democracy here." Unless you think she meant ALL Christians are radical there's a big difference.

drewau02 said Elton John said, "that Christianity should be abolished worldwide." What he actually said was, "I just find it more human. We should all be together. I've got this really naive idea of what life should be like - it's an idealistic idea but it's completely integrated. We can't keep thinking of gay people as being ostracised; we can't keep thinking of Muslim people as being [ostracised] because of the fundamentalism that occurs in Islam. Muslim people have to do something about speaking up about it. We can't judge a book by its cover.

From my point of view I would ban religion completely, even though there are some wonderful things about it. I love the idea of the teachings of Jesus Christ and the beautiful stories about it, which I loved in Sunday school and I collected all the little stickers and put them in my book. But the reality is that organised religion doesn't seem to work. It turns people into hateful lemmings and it's not really compassionate." Oddly enough, this is the same sentiment many Christians profess themselves when asked about their religious preference. They say religion is of man and they prefer to 'walk with Jesus.'

drewau02 said John Kerry "calls our troops idiots." What he actually said was, "Education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. And if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq." He says it was a botched joke and should've said "you get US stuck in Iraq" and was a knock on Bush. I believe him and most here don't. We don't need to re-debate that as it's been done ad nauseum already. drewau02 further says that nothing happened as a result of what he said. I'd say dropping out of contention for the 2008 presidential election because of it IS something.

drewau02 said Dick Durbin "called out troops at Gitmo Nazis." What Durbin actually said was, "If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime -- Pol Pot or others -- that had no concern for human beings," Durbin said. "Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners." That statement was in reply to an FBI account of how Guantanamo prisoners had been chained to their cells in extreme temperatures and deprived of food and water. I wouldn't have believed it was Americans, either.

Rosie O'Donnell. Just imagine if Ann Coulter said, "I think that radical homosexuals are just as big of a threat to this country as radical Islam." Yeah, I'm sure that would have gone over real well. Or what if Coulter said, "Radical African Americans are as big a threat to this country as radical Muslims". Sure, these statements wouldn't be all over the NY Times. Please, don't insult my intelligence.

Elton John. Guess what Tiger Al? Ann Coulter said "gay person" from Her Point of View as well. I love it how Sir Elton John is so quick to defend the Muslims people despite the outbreak of violence worldwide as a result of Muslim extremism. My guess is that he did not want to become the next Theo Van Gough.

John Kerry. Sure it was a knock on Bush Tiger Al, the same man who had a better college GPA then Kerry. The same man who has an MBA from Harvard Business School. The same man who was a two term Governor of one of the largest states in America. The same man who is a two term president. Sure, believe that if you want. Listen, if Kerry had no past history of belittling the military then I would agree with you that it was a "botched" joke. However, this is the same man who accused our military of being "murderers and torturers" back in the 1970's. This is the same man who told Tim Russert that our military was "terrorizing women and children in the dark of night."

Dick Durbin. Once again, why did he play the Nazi card? Because Muhammed or Aziz down in Guitmo had to listen to Britney Spears Music at full blast and had to sit in a room that was 5 degrees colder than usual? Rule of Thumb: do not use the word Nazi, Paul Pot, or Soviet henchmen, in the same sentence, ever! Especially if you're on the floor of the U.S Senate.

TigerAl, let's just say for arguments sake that all of these liberal celebrities were either misquoted or were victims of a "botched joke". Isn't this the same thing that happened to Ann Coulter? She's in trouble now and is losing her columns in certain publications all because of a botched joke. All I'm saying is that if you penalize her for botching a joke, then demand the same satisfaction for the liberals I just mentioned. My entire purpose for this post was to expose the double standard on the left. If a rightie makes a comment that libs don't agree with, they are stigmatized as racist, bigots, intolerant Nazis, etc. When a leftie makes a comment, then they're quotes were taken completely out of context or they were misquoted.

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Well, actually that was Louis Farakhan, but he still said this.

Very good. Keep going.

Are you that set in your denial?

What do you refuse to believe?

The video clips of them actually saying these things, or the news articles that report everything you say never happened, did in fact happen?

Are you being a stickler for the exact wording? Because these people's comments were far closer to drewau02's paraphrasing than saying that Anne Coulter called John Edwards a f@ggot.

Sorry, AUChizad, but, yes, words matter. They mean things.

drewau02 said O'Donnell said, "that Christianity is as much of a threat to the world as radical Islam." That's not what she said and one word changes the entire meaning. What she actually said was, "Radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam in a country like America where we have a separation of church and state. We're a democracy here." Unless you think she meant ALL Christians are radical there's a big difference.

drewau02 said Elton John said, "that Christianity should be abolished worldwide." What he actually said was, "I just find it more human. We should all be together. I've got this really naive idea of what life should be like - it's an idealistic idea but it's completely integrated. We can't keep thinking of gay people as being ostracised; we can't keep thinking of Muslim people as being [ostracised] because of the fundamentalism that occurs in Islam. Muslim people have to do something about speaking up about it. We can't judge a book by its cover.

From my point of view I would ban religion completely, even though there are some wonderful things about it. I love the idea of the teachings of Jesus Christ and the beautiful stories about it, which I loved in Sunday school and I collected all the little stickers and put them in my book. But the reality is that organised religion doesn't seem to work. It turns people into hateful lemmings and it's not really compassionate." Oddly enough, this is the same sentiment many Christians profess themselves when asked about their religious preference. They say religion is of man and they prefer to 'walk with Jesus.'

drewau02 said John Kerry "calls our troops idiots." What he actually said was, "Education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. And if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq." He says it was a botched joke and should've said "you get US stuck in Iraq" and was a knock on Bush. I believe him and most here don't. We don't need to re-debate that as it's been done ad nauseum already. drewau02 further says that nothing happened as a result of what he said. I'd say dropping out of contention for the 2008 presidential election because of it IS something.

drewau02 said Dick Durbin "called out troops at Gitmo Nazis." What Durbin actually said was, "If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime -- Pol Pot or others -- that had no concern for human beings," Durbin said. "Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners." That statement was in reply to an FBI account of how Guantanamo prisoners had been chained to their cells in extreme temperatures and deprived of food and water. I wouldn't have believed it was Americans, either.

Semantics. You're nitpicking. As I said in my previous post, just because he paraphrased, he didn't diminish the intent of the statements. He didn't twist their words and take them out of context in order for them to take on new meaning. Certainly no more than saying that Anne Coulter's statements were her directly calling John Edwards a f@ggot.

It's neither semantics nor nitpicking. I think that if the headline for this picture read:

au-halloween-lynching.jpgAuburn University Promotes Racism

You'd be very quick to point out that was only representative of a small group of idiots on campus (radical frat boys) and not of the entire student body. And, you'd be right.

By eliminating words or context from what these people said, it changes what they meant. But, it's done for a reason. It's done so that people like me who share some of the same ideas with them can be lumped in with "America hating" "Christian hating" limousine liberals like them and avoid discussing issues instead of personalities.

Ann Coulter can say whatever she wants and it's fine with me. I stand ready to defend her right to do so against enemies both foreign AND domestic.

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TigerAl, let's just say for arguments sake that all of these liberal celebrities were either misquoted or were victims of a "botched joke". Isn't this the same thing that happened to Ann Coulter?

Evidently, you missed my posts on the 'Ann Coulter' thread. I have no problem with her shooting off her mouth. As I said, when she speaks it becomes that much easier to see the roaches because they scurry out to defend her.

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Well, actually that was Louis Farakhan, but he still said this.

Very good. Keep going.

Are you that set in your denial?

What do you refuse to believe?

The video clips of them actually saying these things, or the news articles that report everything you say never happened, did in fact happen?

Are you being a stickler for the exact wording? Because these people's comments were far closer to drewau02's paraphrasing than saying that Anne Coulter called John Edwards a f@ggot.

Sorry, AUChizad, but, yes, words matter. They mean things.

drewau02 said O'Donnell said, "that Christianity is as much of a threat to the world as radical Islam." That's not what she said and one word changes the entire meaning. What she actually said was, "Radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam in a country like America where we have a separation of church and state. We're a democracy here." Unless you think she meant ALL Christians are radical there's a big difference.

drewau02 said Elton John said, "that Christianity should be abolished worldwide." What he actually said was, "I just find it more human. We should all be together. I've got this really naive idea of what life should be like - it's an idealistic idea but it's completely integrated. We can't keep thinking of gay people as being ostracised; we can't keep thinking of Muslim people as being [ostracised] because of the fundamentalism that occurs in Islam. Muslim people have to do something about speaking up about it. We can't judge a book by its cover.

From my point of view I would ban religion completely, even though there are some wonderful things about it. I love the idea of the teachings of Jesus Christ and the beautiful stories about it, which I loved in Sunday school and I collected all the little stickers and put them in my book. But the reality is that organised religion doesn't seem to work. It turns people into hateful lemmings and it's not really compassionate." Oddly enough, this is the same sentiment many Christians profess themselves when asked about their religious preference. They say religion is of man and they prefer to 'walk with Jesus.'

drewau02 said John Kerry "calls our troops idiots." What he actually said was, "Education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. And if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq." He says it was a botched joke and should've said "you get US stuck in Iraq" and was a knock on Bush. I believe him and most here don't. We don't need to re-debate that as it's been done ad nauseum already. drewau02 further says that nothing happened as a result of what he said. I'd say dropping out of contention for the 2008 presidential election because of it IS something.

drewau02 said Dick Durbin "called out troops at Gitmo Nazis." What Durbin actually said was, "If I read this to you and did not tell you that it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime -- Pol Pot or others -- that had no concern for human beings," Durbin said. "Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners." That statement was in reply to an FBI account of how Guantanamo prisoners had been chained to their cells in extreme temperatures and deprived of food and water. I wouldn't have believed it was Americans, either.

Semantics. You're nitpicking. As I said in my previous post, just because he paraphrased, he didn't diminish the intent of the statements. He didn't twist their words and take them out of context in order for them to take on new meaning. Certainly no more than saying that Anne Coulter's statements were her directly calling John Edwards a f@ggot.

It's neither semantics nor nitpicking. I think that if the headline for this picture read:

au-halloween-lynching.jpgAuburn University Promotes Racism

You'd be very quick to point out that was only representative of a small group of idiots on campus (radical frat boys) and not of the entire student body. And, you'd be right.

By eliminating words or context from what these people said, it changes what they meant. But, it's done for a reason. It's done so that people like me who share some of the same ideas with them can be lumped in with "America hating" "Christian hating" limousine liberals like them and avoid discussing issues instead of personalities.

Ann Coulter can say whatever she wants and it's fine with me. I stand ready to defend her right to do so against enemies both foreign AND domestic.

The Frat boy incident. You're right. I was a senior at Auburn at the time and I did condemn those idiots for what they did. In fact, I've heard many prominent conservatives denounce Ann Coulter for her comments. The big 3 Presidential hopefuls of the GOP and Michelle Malkin come to mind. Personally, I won't condemn her because I thought it was funny. I thouht that it was funny because I believe that the homosexual agenda is slowly eating away at the fabric of this great nation. That's just my opinion. Another topic for another time. I'll get back to the point.

Conservatives will condemn their own for making outrageous and damaging statements that hurt their cause. Liberals will not do this.

Remember all those blacks who accused Bush of "blowing up the levee" in New Orleans? Or what about Charlie Sheen who is convinced that the Bush administration was behind the 9-11 attacks? Can you name me any liberals who have denounced these whackos?

TigerAl, I'm not lumping you into any category. I don't know you. However, the facts are the facts. The vast majority of liberals in this country are world first, America second. Their agenda is one community, one social class. When most righties accuse most liberals of being anti-American, it's because many of them are. Not all liberals, but many.

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TigerAl, let's just say for arguments sake that all of these liberal celebrities were either misquoted or were victims of a "botched joke". Isn't this the same thing that happened to Ann Coulter?

Evidently, you missed my posts on the 'Ann Coulter' thread. I have no problem with her shooting off her mouth. As I said, when she speaks it becomes that much easier to see the roaches because they scurry out to defend her.

I never said you did. All I'm saying is that most liberals will not denounce their people for comments but conservatives will. The media sure as hell won't denounce them but heaven forbid if Ann Coulter throws out an f bomb or two.

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TigerAl, let's just say for arguments sake that all of these liberal celebrities were either misquoted or were victims of a "botched joke". Isn't this the same thing that happened to Ann Coulter?

Evidently, you missed my posts on the 'Ann Coulter' thread. I have no problem with her shooting off her mouth. As I said, when she speaks it becomes that much easier to see the roaches because they scurry out to defend her.

I never said you did. All I'm saying is that most liberals will not denounce their people for comments but conservatives will. The media sure as hell won't denounce them but heaven forbid if Ann Coulter throws out an f bomb or two.

Well, not that it really matters who denounces who, you're just wrong.

Democrats also have criticized Kerry's comments. Kerry won't appear today in Mankato, Minnesota on behalf of Tim Walz, a Democrat challenging Republican Representative Gil Gutknecht. The decision to cancel ``ultimately'' was Kerry's, said Walz spokeswoman Meredith Salsbery.

Bruce Braley, a Democrat running for Iowa's 1st congressional seat, asked Kerry not to campaign with him tomorrow, the Quad-Cities Times reported. Braley thought Kerry's remarks were inappropriate, the paper said, citing Braley spokesman Jeff Giertz

Kerry also won't appear today in Philadelphia with U.S. Senate candidate Bob Casey, ABC News reported. Casey's race to unseat Republican Rick Santorum in Pennsylvania could be pivotal to Democrats' hopes to gain control of the Senate.

Senator Hillary Clinton of New York said today that Kerry shouldn't have made the comments. ``What Senator Kerry said was inappropriate,'' Clinton said at a campaign stop in Kingston, New York, according to the Middletown-based Times-Herald Record.

Tennessee Representative Harold Ford Jr., who is locked in a close race for retiring Majority Leader Bill Frist's Senate seat, also called on Kerry to apologize.

`Wrong'

``Whatever the intent, Senator Kerry was wrong to say what he said,'' Ford said in a statement. ``He needs to apologize to our troops.''

Ford felt compelled to call on Kerry to apologize because, ``Republicans are trying to inject another issue in the race,'' said Tom Lee, a senior campaign adviser to Ford.

In Montana, Jon Tester, the Democratic challenger to incumbent Senator Republican Senator Conrad Burns, also sought to distance himself from Kerry.

``Senator Kerry's remarks were poorly worded and just plain stupid,'' Tester said in a statement late yesterday. ``He owes our troops and their families an apology.'' Bush is scheduled to campaign for Burns in Montana tomorrow.

Kerry's spokesman confirmed the senator has canceled the appearances.

``We made a decision not to allow the Republican hate machine to use Democratic House candidates as proxies in their distorted spin war in which once again they're willing to exploit brave American troops,'' David Wade said in a statement.

Radio host Don Imus teased Kerry during the interview today about the canceled appearances and the criticism from his party. Democrats, Imus said, hope Kerry will keep quiet until Election Day. ``Stop talking. Go home, get on the bike, go windsurfing anything,'' Imus said. ``Stop it. You are going to ruin this.''

Bloomberg

Sen. Richard J. Durbin's comparison of the treatment of al Qaeda prisoners at the U.S. Naval Base Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to Nazi and Soviet gulag atrocities was sharply criticized by constituents and newspapers in his home state.

Mr. Durbin's accusations drew a storm of voter complaints in Illinois, his home state, editorial rebuke by its biggest newspaper and an uneasiness in his party over the potentially damaging political fallout. One state Democratic operative called the charges "inflammatory."

The fiercely negative reaction forced Mr. Durbin late Friday to say that he regretted making the comparison, but his remarks remained a source of discomfort for a party whose leaders have been on the defensive lately over heated and sometimes personal charges they have made against the Republicans and the Bush administration.

The Democrats who agreed to comment Friday flatly rejected Mr. Durbin's parallel with the death camps that killed millions, saying such comparisons were historically inaccurate and, some said, threatened to divert attention away from important national-security issues.

"Any efforts to make an analogy between Stalin's gulag and Guantanamo is absurd on its face and also harmful in the war on terror because there is already an inclination to believe the worst about us," said Michael O'Hanlon, a Brookings Institution national-security analyst who backed Sen. John Kerry, Massachusetts Democrat, in last year's presidential campaign.

"That kind of rhetoric concerns me. There's no way you can make that parallel," said Richard Stallings, the Idaho Democratic Party chairman and former congressman. "There are real issues we should be discussing, and here we are making comparisons to Hitler and the gulag. Those statements are detracting from what the party and the nation ought to be talking about."

New Mexico's Democratic state party chairman, John Wertheim, and Arizona party chairman Jim Pederson similarly rejected Mr. Durbin's choice of words. "I do not agree with the parallel that Senator Durbin drew, because I think that analogies to the Nazis and the Soviet gulag system must be reserved for extraordinary evil," he said. Mr. Pederson called the senator's words "inflammatory."

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How Tiger Al could be such a blind apologist for the hate speech folk on the Left is sad indeed.

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How Tiger Al could be such a blind apologist for the hate speech folk on the Left is sad indeed.

Just depends on what the definition of "is" is. Unless of course it is uttered by a conservative, then all dims know what "is" is. It's just not the same "is" as they use.

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TigerAl, let's just say for arguments sake that all of these liberal celebrities were either misquoted or were victims of a "botched joke". Isn't this the same thing that happened to Ann Coulter?

Evidently, you missed my posts on the 'Ann Coulter' thread. I have no problem with her shooting off her mouth. As I said, when she speaks it becomes that much easier to see the roaches because they scurry out to defend her.

I never said you did. All I'm saying is that most liberals will not denounce their people for comments but conservatives will. The media sure as hell won't denounce them but heaven forbid if Ann Coulter throws out an f bomb or two.

Well, not that it really matters who denounces who, you're just wrong.

Democrats also have criticized Kerry's comments. Kerry won't appear today in Mankato, Minnesota on behalf of Tim Walz, a Democrat challenging Republican Representative Gil Gutknecht. The decision to cancel ``ultimately'' was Kerry's, said Walz spokeswoman Meredith Salsbery.

Bruce Braley, a Democrat running for Iowa's 1st congressional seat, asked Kerry not to campaign with him tomorrow, the Quad-Cities Times reported. Braley thought Kerry's remarks were inappropriate, the paper said, citing Braley spokesman Jeff Giertz

Kerry also won't appear today in Philadelphia with U.S. Senate candidate Bob Casey, ABC News reported. Casey's race to unseat Republican Rick Santorum in Pennsylvania could be pivotal to Democrats' hopes to gain control of the Senate.

Senator Hillary Clinton of New York said today that Kerry shouldn't have made the comments. ``What Senator Kerry said was inappropriate,'' Clinton said at a campaign stop in Kingston, New York, according to the Middletown-based Times-Herald Record.

Tennessee Representative Harold Ford Jr., who is locked in a close race for retiring Majority Leader Bill Frist's Senate seat, also called on Kerry to apologize.

`Wrong'

``Whatever the intent, Senator Kerry was wrong to say what he said,'' Ford said in a statement. ``He needs to apologize to our troops.''

Ford felt compelled to call on Kerry to apologize because, ``Republicans are trying to inject another issue in the race,'' said Tom Lee, a senior campaign adviser to Ford.

In Montana, Jon Tester, the Democratic challenger to incumbent Senator Republican Senator Conrad Burns, also sought to distance himself from Kerry.

``Senator Kerry's remarks were poorly worded and just plain stupid,'' Tester said in a statement late yesterday. ``He owes our troops and their families an apology.'' Bush is scheduled to campaign for Burns in Montana tomorrow.

Kerry's spokesman confirmed the senator has canceled the appearances.

``We made a decision not to allow the Republican hate machine to use Democratic House candidates as proxies in their distorted spin war in which once again they're willing to exploit brave American troops,'' David Wade said in a statement.

Radio host Don Imus teased Kerry during the interview today about the canceled appearances and the criticism from his party. Democrats, Imus said, hope Kerry will keep quiet until Election Day. ``Stop talking. Go home, get on the bike, go windsurfing anything,'' Imus said. ``Stop it. You are going to ruin this.''

Bloomberg

Sen. Richard J. Durbin's comparison of the treatment of al Qaeda prisoners at the U.S. Naval Base Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to Nazi and Soviet gulag atrocities was sharply criticized by constituents and newspapers in his home state.

Mr. Durbin's accusations drew a storm of voter complaints in Illinois, his home state, editorial rebuke by its biggest newspaper and an uneasiness in his party over the potentially damaging political fallout. One state Democratic operative called the charges "inflammatory."

The fiercely negative reaction forced Mr. Durbin late Friday to say that he regretted making the comparison, but his remarks remained a source of discomfort for a party whose leaders have been on the defensive lately over heated and sometimes personal charges they have made against the Republicans and the Bush administration.

The Democrats who agreed to comment Friday flatly rejected Mr. Durbin's parallel with the death camps that killed millions, saying such comparisons were historically inaccurate and, some said, threatened to divert attention away from important national-security issues.

"Any efforts to make an analogy between Stalin's gulag and Guantanamo is absurd on its face and also harmful in the war on terror because there is already an inclination to believe the worst about us," said Michael O'Hanlon, a Brookings Institution national-security analyst who backed Sen. John Kerry, Massachusetts Democrat, in last year's presidential campaign.

"That kind of rhetoric concerns me. There's no way you can make that parallel," said Richard Stallings, the Idaho Democratic Party chairman and former congressman. "There are real issues we should be discussing, and here we are making comparisons to Hitler and the gulag. Those statements are detracting from what the party and the nation ought to be talking about."

New Mexico's Democratic state party chairman, John Wertheim, and Arizona party chairman Jim Pederson similarly rejected Mr. Durbin's choice of words. "I do not agree with the parallel that Senator Durbin drew, because I think that analogies to the Nazis and the Soviet gulag system must be reserved for extraordinary evil," he said. Mr. Pederson called the senator's words "inflammatory."

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Tiger Al, some of these folks are delusional to the point of bordering on mental illness-- some appear to have crossed the border.

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,257745,00.html

Apparently a few newspapers have stopped carrying Ann Coulter's syndicated column as a result of the barrage of complaints by liberal bloggers, activists, and readers.

Sure, it's completely copacetic for that fat, man hating, femi-nazi lesbian Rosie O'Donnell to suggest on national tv that Christianity is as much of a threat to the world as radical Islam. Nothing happens to her as a result. She doesn't get fired, get reprimanded, nothing. It's also completely copacetic for that self loathing homo Elton John to say that Christianity should be abolished worldwide. Yet, his record label hasn't cancelled their contract with him to my knowledge.

John Kerry calls our troops idiots. Nothing happens to him. He falsely accused his Vietnam "Band of Brothers" of war crimes. The DNC rewards him with the presidential nomination in 2004.

Dick Durbin calls our troops at Gitmo Nazis. Nothing happens to him.

Henry Bellefante says that "America should burn". Nothing happens to him.

Hollywood Celiberals like Leonardo DiCaprio, Kevin Costner, Danny Glover, and various others "chill out" with Fidel Castro, an enemy of this country and nothing happens to them.

The lead singer of the "Pretenders" says that she hopes and I quote, "that the Muslims win". Nothing happens to her.

The difference between the aforementioned traitors and the Dixie Chicks is that the vast majority of the Chicks listening audience are comprised of Bush and Iraq War supporters. The media didn't punish them severely like they have punished Coulter. The DC audience punished them merely by "flipping the switch" on the radio.

Should I go on? I have several more examples but I don't want to waste board space with them.

The same people like John Edwards and Rosie O'Donnell who are so dedicated to ending the "politics of personal hatred" and are so incensed because Ann Coulter uttered the word "gay person," are the same ones who have long ignored the threat of radical Islam. They ignore all the terrorism, all the bombings, all the beheadings, all the Muslim cartoons that glorify suicide bombers and glorify Jew hatred, etc.

Maybe these fools will start paying attention to the real enemy when they have finally defeated conservatives but I doubt it. They're already on their way to silencing someone they disagree with.

Just remember that liberalism is a fancy guise of socialism. Karl Marx would be proud.

Modern Conservatism is a guise for totalitarianism. But I do wish you hypocrites will make up you mind. BTW, the Chicks had the top grossing country tour in 2003 and their recent album went double platinum. Corporate owned radio stations made a decision to pull their music, not the listeners.

I mean, the Dixie Chicks are free to speak their mind. They can say what they want to say. And just because -- they shouldn't have their feelings hurt just because some people don't want to buy their records when they speak out. You know, freedom is a two-way street.

Anybody who relies on advertisers runs a risk being controversial-- either to the Right or the Left--- Coulter is a flame thrower. O'Donnell has lost her show, her magazine, and probably won't last long on the View.

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TigerAl, let's just say for arguments sake that all of these liberal celebrities were either misquoted or were victims of a "botched joke". Isn't this the same thing that happened to Ann Coulter?

Evidently, you missed my posts on the 'Ann Coulter' thread. I have no problem with her shooting off her mouth. As I said, when she speaks it becomes that much easier to see the roaches because they scurry out to defend her.

I never said you did. All I'm saying is that most liberals will not denounce their people for comments but conservatives will. The media sure as hell won't denounce them but heaven forbid if Ann Coulter throws out an f bomb or two.

Well, not that it really matters who denounces who, you're just wrong.

Democrats also have criticized Kerry's comments. Kerry won't appear today in Mankato, Minnesota on behalf of Tim Walz, a Democrat challenging Republican Representative Gil Gutknecht. The decision to cancel ``ultimately'' was Kerry's, said Walz spokeswoman Meredith Salsbery.

Bruce Braley, a Democrat running for Iowa's 1st congressional seat, asked Kerry not to campaign with him tomorrow, the Quad-Cities Times reported. Braley thought Kerry's remarks were inappropriate, the paper said, citing Braley spokesman Jeff Giertz

Kerry also won't appear today in Philadelphia with U.S. Senate candidate Bob Casey, ABC News reported. Casey's race to unseat Republican Rick Santorum in Pennsylvania could be pivotal to Democrats' hopes to gain control of the Senate.

Senator Hillary Clinton of New York said today that Kerry shouldn't have made the comments. ``What Senator Kerry said was inappropriate,'' Clinton said at a campaign stop in Kingston, New York, according to the Middletown-based Times-Herald Record.

Tennessee Representative Harold Ford Jr., who is locked in a close race for retiring Majority Leader Bill Frist's Senate seat, also called on Kerry to apologize.

`Wrong'

``Whatever the intent, Senator Kerry was wrong to say what he said,'' Ford said in a statement. ``He needs to apologize to our troops.''

Ford felt compelled to call on Kerry to apologize because, ``Republicans are trying to inject another issue in the race,'' said Tom Lee, a senior campaign adviser to Ford.

In Montana, Jon Tester, the Democratic challenger to incumbent Senator Republican Senator Conrad Burns, also sought to distance himself from Kerry.

``Senator Kerry's remarks were poorly worded and just plain stupid,'' Tester said in a statement late yesterday. ``He owes our troops and their families an apology.'' Bush is scheduled to campaign for Burns in Montana tomorrow.

Kerry's spokesman confirmed the senator has canceled the appearances.

``We made a decision not to allow the Republican hate machine to use Democratic House candidates as proxies in their distorted spin war in which once again they're willing to exploit brave American troops,'' David Wade said in a statement.

Radio host Don Imus teased Kerry during the interview today about the canceled appearances and the criticism from his party. Democrats, Imus said, hope Kerry will keep quiet until Election Day. ``Stop talking. Go home, get on the bike, go windsurfing anything,'' Imus said. ``Stop it. You are going to ruin this.''

Bloomberg

Sen. Richard J. Durbin's comparison of the treatment of al Qaeda prisoners at the U.S. Naval Base Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to Nazi and Soviet gulag atrocities was sharply criticized by constituents and newspapers in his home state.

Mr. Durbin's accusations drew a storm of voter complaints in Illinois, his home state, editorial rebuke by its biggest newspaper and an uneasiness in his party over the potentially damaging political fallout. One state Democratic operative called the charges "inflammatory."

The fiercely negative reaction forced Mr. Durbin late Friday to say that he regretted making the comparison, but his remarks remained a source of discomfort for a party whose leaders have been on the defensive lately over heated and sometimes personal charges they have made against the Republicans and the Bush administration.

The Democrats who agreed to comment Friday flatly rejected Mr. Durbin's parallel with the death camps that killed millions, saying such comparisons were historically inaccurate and, some said, threatened to divert attention away from important national-security issues.

"Any efforts to make an analogy between Stalin's gulag and Guantanamo is absurd on its face and also harmful in the war on terror because there is already an inclination to believe the worst about us," said Michael O'Hanlon, a Brookings Institution national-security analyst who backed Sen. John Kerry, Massachusetts Democrat, in last year's presidential campaign.

"That kind of rhetoric concerns me. There's no way you can make that parallel," said Richard Stallings, the Idaho Democratic Party chairman and former congressman. "There are real issues we should be discussing, and here we are making comparisons to Hitler and the gulag. Those statements are detracting from what the party and the nation ought to be talking about."

New Mexico's Democratic state party chairman, John Wertheim, and Arizona party chairman Jim Pederson similarly rejected Mr. Durbin's choice of words. "I do not agree with the parallel that Senator Durbin drew, because I think that analogies to the Nazis and the Soviet gulag system must be reserved for extraordinary evil," he said. Mr. Pederson called the senator's words "inflammatory."

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It's hard to see the forest for the trees when you don't want to.

"Well, not that it really matters who denounces who, you're just wrong."

Wow, you really got me there Tiger Al. Congratulations. Your analytical reasoning abilities impress me!

Okay, first things first. In regards to the Kerry comment and those who denounced him. Hillary Clinton is running for president. At the time, Harold Ford Jr. was running for Senator in one of the most conservative states in America. I'm not referring to Democrats who are trying to disguise themselves as conservatives denouncing what John Kerry said. I'm talking about the party leaders. I'm talking about the talking heads on tv, the libs who get the most air time. All I heard from them was spin. It was a botched joke, he didn't mean to insult our troops, blah blah blah. The only dems who denounced him were those who were a) running for public office in conservative parts of the country, or B) Hillary Clinton who is trying to convince the world that she is somehow a conservative Democrat.

Did Howard Dean denounce what he said? What about Chuck Schumer? What about Harry Reid. What about Nacny Pelosi? What about that charlatan John Murtha?

The media spent an entire month analyzing everything that Ann Coulter said in "Godless" and will no doubt spend an entire month on her using the f word. I seriously doubt that the driveby media spent two or three days on what John Kerry said about our troops. It's like I said in a previous comment, if John Kerry did not have such a bad reputation of insulting and belittling our military, then I would be perfectly willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. If Hillary Clinton said it, I would give her a pass. Even if Harry Reid said it, I would give him a pass. Not John Kerry.

``We made a decision not to allow the Republican hate machine to use Democratic House candidates as proxies in their distorted spin war in which once again they're willing to exploit brave American troops,''

David Wade is an idiot. He's blaming the "Republican hate machine" for what John Kerry said? It's no different than him and other libs blaming the GOP for what Ann Coulter said. In the liberal view of the world, when all else fails, play the ole Republicans are evil, Nazis, racist, bigot, homophobe card.

The fact that you are quoting Don Imus is hysterical. I can't even believe the man has a show. Then again, it's on MSNBC which has losers like Keith Olbermann, Rita Cosby, and Joe Scarbarough so I'm not surprised.

In regards to Dick Durbin, how many prominent liberals denounced him? I didn't hear anything from John Kerry, Jack Murtha, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Charles Schumer, etc. Nor did I hear anything from bloggers such as Arianna Huffington, Dailykos, or any other of the liberal talking heads you see on tv. If you'll notice in the quote about Derbin, those who denounced him were either congressional members or party leaders from conservative states. Even in Illinois where the citizens traditionally vote Democrat in national elections, there is still a large conservative base. After all, former speaker of the house Dennis Hastert is from Illinois. Did the Boston Globe or any other Massachussets outlet denounce what John Kerry said? They didn't to my knowledge.

Ann Coulter has been denounced by all three Republican candidates, and conservative rockstars like Laura Ingraham and Michelle Malkin, and several other conservative bloggers.

Trust me, you will never see this type of backlash on the left.

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Modern Conservatism is a guise for totalitarianism. But I do wish you hypocrites will make up you mind. BTW, the Chicks had the top grossing country tour in 2003 and their recent album went double platinum. Corporate owned radio stations made a decision to pull their music, not the listeners.

Good lord. Do we have to go down this route again? Tex, leaders like Sadaam Hussein practiced totalitarianism with theier rape rooms, torture chambers, mass graves, and killing fields. Liberal icons like Fidel Castro have abolished all forms of free speech in Cuba. In fact, if you want to use the internet in Cuba then you have to be put on a waiting list for six months and even when you finally do get online, the amount of information you can access is very limited. After all, you may read somewhere online that Fidel Castro is not a God and then that will cause you to question everything that father Fidel has told you. What about another liberal icon, Joe Stalin, who killed three times as many of his own people as did Hitler? All three are great examples of totolitarian socialist. I could go on and on with Mao, Paul Pot, Idi Amin, et. but you get the point by now.

It seems to me that all of those who practiced totalitarianism were socialists, and not traditional or modern conservatives. Are you gonna try and convince me that Dick Cheney is a totlalitarian? Hell, the man can't even stay healthy enough to do anything. Why are other modern conservatives totalitarians? Because many of them realized that the Middle East was in dire need of democratic reform after 9-11?

In regards to the chicks, many radio stations pulled the plug on their music after pressure from many of their listeners. Trust me on this one, if there wasn't any pressure from the listening audience, then the Chicks would have stayed on the air. Listen, the chicks can say whatever they want. I'm just saying that the folks have the right not to buy their albums because of their political persuasions.

Anybody who relies on advertisers runs a risk being controversial-- either to the Right or the Left--- Coulter is a flame thrower. O'Donnell has lost her show, her magazine, and probably won't last long on the View.

You call Coulter a flame thrower but not Rosie O'Donnell? The last time I checked, O'Donnell was still on the View every morning at 10.

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