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I don’t think you misspoke, I just wanted to further explain my view of personal choice. The more we are vaccinated, the more people’s perception will be we can return to normal. We may never know. Mandating is just wrong.

And you say “you don’t live in fear”. Go see your Grandparents, they will protect themselves and they would love to see you.

Well, they have cleaned up the chant. “Let’s go Brandon”.

Don’t worry, being on the left these type of transgressions are overlooked.

Did you purposefully misgender Senator Graham? Shame.

Memory is always there, whether it be about the deaths from the Cutter situation or the Tuskegee Experiment there will always be a portion of the population that will resist these vaccines. The data for this vaccine is 10 months old, that’s it, and as you have said the issues are probably underreported. On top of that, the reports of issues are being censored by social media and the MSM are being urged not to report these. Does this give you pause? I’m not saying people should not get the vaccine until more data is known to the public, but I can see the hesitancy for this vaccine. This is where the anti-vaxx movement really started. I do wonder if the exemptions will continue? https://www.gov.ca.gov/2021/10/01/california-becomes-first-state-in-nation-to-announce-covid-19-vaccine-requirements-for-schools/ Here is where personal choice comes in. It doesn’t matter what the risk is for either. Each person could care less about the risk if there is a chance, any chance, they maybe affected by either. The people that believe taking the vaccine is the way to go are vaccinated, the others are not. To force people to make a decision regardless of their personal perception about medical issues is despicable.

No, I was responding to the political statement being about vaccination hesitancy rather than vaccinated vs the unvaccinated.

This is an example of a leap in logic. Are you trying to put words in my mouth? I know of people that have had a break through case, as they have been vaccinated, that have passed it on to unvaccinated people, so we know contracting the virus has nothing to do with who is vaccinated and who is not. Do you agree with this statement? Of course, the unvaccinated can spread the virus, but they are not the only ones spreading the virus. Therefore, if you vilify the unvaccinated you are being political. What most of this thread has been talking about the *normal* situation, not the outlier. The outliers have to protect themselves as they know who they are and other people can not be responsible for something they are not aware of. If the *normal* people are aware of their condition, then yes, they should take precautions with these people. It would be up to the people who have compromised immune systems to set the standards of not interacting with people that may be a threat to them. As an analogy; a person who has a severe allergy to peanuts will have to protect themselves and let others know if there may be a problem.

So you say the parents had their children vaccinated with 30+ approved vaccines and you are questioning their vaccine hesitancy? Those 30+ Vaccines have been around for 50 years or so and very few have to have *boosters*. The Covid vaccination is good for the Alpha variant, but also helps (does not prevent) with the Delta variant and we see that people in the age group of 65+ May need a booster only 6 months in to original inoculation. I was alive during the outbreak of polio in 1950 (I was born that year) and with all the press, you bet my parents had me vaccinated (the oral dose back then). Interestingly enough, by the time I took the cube of sugar there had been enough research to make the vaccine *safe*. In 1955 the Cutter Laboratories sent out 200,000 doses and had caused 40 000 cases of polio, leaving 200 children with varying degrees of paralysis and killing 10. I still remember seeing PSAs back in the day with kids in Iron Lungs encouraging parents to get their kids vaccinated. The internet was not around so there we no vaccine hesitancy as it was administered at school. These 30+ vaccines are aimed at preventing diseases in children which most parents would welcome. I believe these vaccines, until recently, were required to enter school. Again because they were deemed safe at preventing childhood diseases. This is much different than a person deciding what is good for their own bodies with an (at the point of the initial vaccine) experimental vaccine. It’s different now and how you describe the reluctance, it appears it is political. It doesn’t mean every person the is hesitant is doing so because of politics. I, too, am a proponent of the vaccine, but I am also a proponent of personal choice. That choice does not affect me and to say the unvaccinated are a danger to the vaccinated is definitely political.

Nice rant, but my point was the National Anthem was a unifying song for many years. Also, with the identity politics of today (the self is more important than the whole) we are too fractured to select a new one. Patriotism only lasted a few years after 9/11, heck even Covid couldn’t do it.

They mistakenly hit #2 on the key pad.

Key wrote it in 1814, so it has been around a while and it did unite the country as far back as post Civil War. Growing Popularity of “The Star-Spangled Banner” At first, “The Star-Spangled Banner” trailed “Yankee Doodle” and “Hail Columbia” in popularity among patriotic 19th-century tunes. But during and immediately after the Civil War, Key’s song gained a deeper meaning, as the American flag became an increasingly powerful symbol of national unity. By the 1890s, the U.S military had adopted the song for ceremonial purposes, playing it to accompany the raising and lowering of the colors. In 1916, President Woodrow Wilson signed an executive order designating it “the national anthem of the United States.” In 1931—more than 100 years after it was composed—Congress passed a measure declaring “The Star-Spangled Banner” as the official national anthem. History of the National Anthem at Sporting Events “The Star-Spangled Banner” made its sporting-event debut in September 1918, during that year’s first World Series game between the Chicago Cubs and Boston Red Sox. In addition to the ongoing toll of World War I, a cloud of violence hung over Chicago’s Comiskey Park, as a bomb had torn apart the Chicago Federal Building just the day before. During the seventh-inning stretch, the military band on hand struck up “The Star-Spangled Banner,” and in a moving spectacle, players and fans alike fell silent and saluted the flag. The practice soon spread across major league baseball, and into other sports, and eventually became a widely accepted pregame tradition. https://www.history.com/topics/19th-century/the-star-spangled-banner If, in the future, America wants to change the “National Anthem” so be it, but right now the country would be so divided there would not be consensus for a single song that would unit the country. That song has not been written yet to my knowledge.

It is interesting how different this coaching staff plays our RB as opposed to the last.

To add #4; He and his present coach are more lined up with their competitive mind set.

One of those personal fouls was only 5 yards as it occurred on the 10 yard line. So the stat could be correct.

You’re right and I was feeling that way when it was 19-17 in the 4th. Harsin, as most coaches, are not in the habit of publicly 2nd guessing themselves. That’s what fans are for and we do a he!! Of a job.

A coach has to make those calls based on how he feels the team will respond no matter if they are successful or not. Harsin must have had confidence in the adjustments CDM was making to make that call. The defense responded by holding LSU to a FG. If the try was successful, the way we ended the first half, we could have taken control of the game. Looking back, in 2010 we were down 21-7 to UGA and started the 2nd half kick with a successful onside kick. If you don’t remember, that game was the first game after Camgate and we were not playing up to our abilities. In 2006, at South Carolina, Tubbs takes the first possession and drives for a TD that took up about 8 minutes of game time. He followed that up with a successful onside kick and SC had 0 minutes of offense in the 3rd Qtr of that game. Harsin, evidently is a gambler and coaches off of feelings. JMO.

To the OP, I believe Harsin had the QB rotation set before the game if Bo was stagnant coming out of the gate. What impressed me about the way Harsin handled it was TJ had a drive into LSU territory and actually let him try to convert a 4th down play. Harsin has some guts and he wants his QBs to have that same attitude. Which one is going to play like that? Tonight it was Bo. I would think Harsin will not hesitate to rotate the QBs like he did last night for the rest of the year.

CDM’s 2nd half really won the game. It seemed to give the offense enough time to get their act together in the 4th Qtr.

Yeah, I was just referring to what he left us. I know some DL transferred this year that hurt us, but overall Steele’s DLs were pretty good.

The last West title was the reason we kept that genius two years too long. It was obvious he could only recruit stars and none were where we needed them (OL and DL for instance). He couldn’t recruit or develop a QB to save his career. Harsin will have to recruit his players to fill his needs. If Hunter is his type of player we may be in for a show. Get behind him, you can always be a UCF fan as well as an Auburn fan.

I’m shocked. Totally shocked. You read the Daily Wire?

I thought it was too good to be true.

It’s good to know you believe he is a disaster too.

When Joe said these racist things he believed he was being cute and playing to his audience. He was forgiven, much like Howard Cosell was on Monday Night Football back in the day. Joe has been a politician most of his adult live and has not been responsible for anything while living off of the taxpayers. When he was put in a place to lead, he has no idea how to do it and has surrounded himself with like minded people. Afghanistan is the typical move for a *leader* like this. He took the *I’m now the leader and you will follow my lead* type of approach and not listening to his advisers because he is *the man*. He is doing it with vaccines, the border and the budget. He is a typical power hungry politician that feels he has to get things done now before he loses the House and Senate in 2022. He is a disaster, JMO of course.