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I'm not denying anything. I posted the transcript. I'm simply stating that asking for a foreign leader to investigate corruption isn't impeachable. And at the end of the day, Zelensky got the aid and stated he felt no pressure. Case closed.

You know, you don't have to like Trump much less vote for him, but that shouldn't prevent one from offering factual information. Well, not according to the TDS crowd. It's sad really.

That's an opinion. Yours. Its accuracy is in question. Plenty to argue. As mentioned, the accuracy of your posting, a rambling mess, is in question. Of course, I dismiss disingenuous talking points and fact checks. I'm not sure what your Secret Service transcript point is. I've stated Trump gave no order. I've also shown testimony that he offered the troops. That is not an order. I haven't mentioned Pelosi and I stated who was responsible for Capitol security. You've allowed emotion to guide you. I merely reported factual information. I came into the thread to show testimony under oath that Trump offered troops. Nothing more. It doesn't absolve Trump, but it is factual information. This triggered you. Why? What?

Yeah okay. I asked you which J6 defendants was Trump planning to pardon. When he was asked directly in a recent interview, he stated he would pardon those who were charged unfairly. He specified, not all would be pardoned as some did some very bad things. I've stated previously those who were violent should be locked away. I also felt that some who entered for a photo op, while erring in judgment, were perhaps overcharged. It's simply my opinion.

Say what?

Presenting facts and defending a person are different. That you fail to understand this surprises no one. It should be apparent. What facts have you presented? FYI, partisan opinion talking points don't count as facts. And yes, partisan fact-checkers have been proven disingenuous if not flat wrong. Show your ignorance, double down and I'll gladly facepalm you. I wish you'd try it. Seriously.

Which ones?

That sounds like one of your CNN talking points. You seem confused. Perhaps it's your partisan resources?

I'll add, why offer troops if not for trying to prevent problems?

I've already detailed more than just Trump was investigating possible corruption. I don't necessarily agree with how they went about it, but it wasn't impeachable.

Sounds again like you're denying factual information. If you're trying to be clever it isn't working. I have called out Trump countless times and did not vote for him, but yes, support all presidents in general. I mean, I am an American. And no, I have no problem with a president seeking information on possible corruption. Who said it didn't happen? I provided the transcript.

I'm not saying that, I'm simply providing protocol.

DC has multiple agencies-Metro Police handles the streets, US Park handles the Ellipse, US Secret Service the White House, and Capitol Police the Capital complex. And of course there is the National Guard. IN DC the guard is under the command of the president, although orders are issued by the Secretary of the Army at the request of the mayor.

approximately 123 individuals who have been charged with using a deadly or dangerous weapon or causing serious bodily injury to an officer. 10,000 vs 123. I like the odds.

The Metropolitan Police had jurisdiction over city streets. US Capitol Police over the capitol compound.

Don't get events confused. J3 was a security briefing. J6 was the event. Trump offered troops at the meeting on J3 which were turned down as previously noted. When violence began at the capitol on J6, Sund, Miller and others asked for help from troops staged away from the area.

Are you serious? No, obviously some devilish ploy unlikely to work. But, I'll play given the competition. Jan 6th

Maybe this will help. I said maybe considering the audience. What the mayor did, was ask for the minimal number of National Guardsmen and women to help out the Metropolitan Police Department, and she warned that those troops should be unarmed and not directly involve themselves in any protests. Mayor Muriel Bowser sent a letter on New Year's Eve to Maj. Gen. William Walker, commanding general of the District of Columbia National Guard, requesting support on January 5 through 6. She said Guard personnel would support the MPD and the District Fire and Emergency Medical Services. "[N]o DCNG personnel shall be armed during this mission, and at no time, will DCNG personnel or assets be engaged in domestic surveillance, searches, or seizures of [U.S.] persons," she wrote.

A tragedy and a disgrace. Never thought I'd see it.

Right! Jan 3rd if I recall correctly. I'm not sure a transcript is available, but I will look.

That you know nothing about intelligence or logistics is understandable. That you double down on this ignorance is not.

Trump stooges, aka CNN speak, were people in the room that heard the offer of troops. Sounds as if you are unaware of Mayor Bowser's role. Color me shocked. Trump offered troops, not ordered. Miller told Trump he had it covered. We now know he didn't. This isn't complicated.

That you would nitpick an article surprises no one.

Another: Gen. Kellogg: Trump did request Nat’l Guard troops on Jan. 6th; asks Congress to release his testimony Then-President Donald Trump speaks at an Armed Forces Welcome Ceremony at Joint Base Myer-Henderson Hall, Arlington, Va., Sept. 30, 2019. (U.S. Army photo by Sgt. James Harvey) August 05, 2022 Ryan Morgan Email Retired U.S. Army Lt. Gen. Keith Kellogg said last week that former President Donald Trump did in fact request National Guard troops be deployed in Washington D.C. before the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. Kellogg said he was present at the time of Trump’s request, and Congress should release his testimony to the public. Trump has repeatedly claimed he requested National Guard troops be activated in D.C. to provide security as he called on supporters to gather in D.C. to protest the certification of the 2020 election results for Joe Biden. Trump’s claim has been substantiated by members of his administration, but rejected by some members of Congress. Kellogg, who was serving as Vice President Mike Pence’s National Security Advisor at the time of the Jan. 6, 2021 Capitol breach, tweeted last week, “To be clear on 6 Jan/NG. Pg 199 of my book, ‘On 3 Jan the President asked the Def Dept to deploy NG troops’ into DC for J6 contingencies. OK for J6 Cmte to publicly release my full sworn testimony. Release Army Guard and DC Mayor J6 testimonies as well. Would be illuminating.” Kellogg now serves as the co-chairman of the America First Policy Institute’s (AFPI) Center for American Security. According to an initial timeline published by the U.S. Capitol Police, a Pentagon employee named Carol Corbin reached out to Capitol Police Deputy Chief Sean Gallagher on Jan. 2, 2021 to determine whether Capitol Police were considering a request for National Guard soldiers in anticipation of planned election protest events on January 6. Gallagher replied on Jan. 3 that the Capitol Police were not planning to make such a request. According to a Department of Defense Inspector General report from November, Trump asked acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley on Jan. 3 about preparations for election protests on Jan. 6. “The President told Mr. Miller that there would be a large number of protestors on January 6, 2021,” the DoD report states. “And Mr. Miller should ensure sufficient National Guard or Soldiers would be there to make sure it was a safe event. Gen Milley told us that Mr. Miller responded, ‘We’ve got a plan and we’ve got it covered.'” Miller testified to Congress in May of 2021 that Trump also asked him if D.C.’s mayor had requested any National Guard troops and instructed him to “fill” a request. A recent Washington Times op-ed criticized the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol breach. The op-ed said the select committee does not have legitimate Republican representation. Reps. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL) and Liz Cheney (R-WY) are the only two Republicans currently allowed on the committee. David Bossie, who wrote the Washington Times op-ed noted Jan. 3 conversation between Trump and Miller and said the Jan. 6 select committee is “crafting a narrative that doesn’t quite add up and omits important facts that would not stand if there were proper Republican representation on the committee.” Bossie was deputy campaign manager of Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign. Kellogg responded to Bossie’s op-ed in a tweet Friday, saying, “Great OpEd. Reinforces my earlier comment on 6 Jan Cmte. Has quote from DOD IG Report regarding 3 Jan 2021 meeting with Actg Def Secy Miller/CJCS Milley in the Oval on the 6 Jan NG request by POTUS on troops needed. I was in the room.”

Another article: https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4288201-trump-jan-6-national-guard-14th-amendment-trial/