mcgufcm 4,107 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Well, I certainly hope Alexander comes to Auburn (if he's transferring), but let's not pretend like there is some dearth of talent in Gainesville. This season was odd. Tons of injuries. Boring offense. All sorts of nonsense going on. Even with all that, you sure they aren't going to win the East next year? UGA has no QB (see: Nebraska game), replaces 3/5 of its offensive line, and will spend spring hoping its awful defense shows a pulse this season South Carolina just lost the best (or at least dang close) QB to ever take snaps at the school, lost its best playmaker WR to the NFL draft, and saw its entirely defensive line (the strong suit of the entire team) either graduate or declare for the NFL draft (including the best player to ever put on a Carolina jersey) Vandy lost its coach, its QB, statistically the best WR in the history of the SEC, and pretty much its entire 2014 signing class Mizzou lost its QB, its LT/C, both starting DEs (the best part of its defense), and five OTHER defensive starters (including an All-Conference CB) Tennessee has had one WINNING season in the last SIX YEARS, they're 33-41 in that stretch and can legitimately refer to the Lane Kiffin season as "the good old days" (that 7-6 team is the only winner by the way), they also lost 4/5 offensive linemen PLUS the top two RBs on the roster, AND lost the ENTIRE starting defensive line and every starting LB (including three-time All-SEC LB AJ Johnson... they also lost two of the backup LBs) Kentucky is still Kentucky So yeah, it's not a stretch to think UF could play in the SEC championship game next year. It would take far less of a turnaround than what we saw in Auburn this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgufcm 4,107 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 lionheart, it's very, very unlikely that he'll get such a waiver. Those are becoming rarer and rarer in college football and basketball, and there was a proposal not long ago to do away with the waiver/exception regime altogether (every transfer sits a year no matter what). Unless the issue is as severe and easily demonstated as Prosch's, don't hold your breath on a waiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,973 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 alexava, Corey Grant transferred to Auburn as a walk-on so it's certainly possible Alexander could do the same. Here or elsewhere. yes he can. i seem to remember that these kids were from the end of the earth in florida, a poverty stricken orange picker town or something of that nature. i doubt family can pay his way. also doubt he would want to take on the debt of a year of college when there are probably 100 or so places he can attend under scholarship. i might be wrong on all this, but i would hope dabo would not deny his release to any school outside the acc and not scheduled to play clemson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionheartkc 6,150 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 lionheart, it's very, very unlikely that he'll get such a waiver. Those are becoming rarer and rarer in college football and basketball, and there was a proposal not long ago to do away with the waiver/exception regime altogether (every transfer sits a year no matter what). Unless the issue is as severe and easily demonstated as Prosch's, don't hold your breath on a waiver. Oh, I completely agree... doesn't mean that it isn't part of why he's considering Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autan 754 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Per EDW on Twitter, the potential transfer is a 4* OG from last year's FSU signing class This could only be Ira Denson. The other potential transfer is MacKensie Alexander. He's unhappy at Clemson, but most people believe that he'll end up at Florida. Could it be Wilson Bell who almost signed with AU last year? Not as highly rated as Denson but higher than Dampeer maybe. Seems I recall Craig's Mobile connections made the difference for FSU. My guess would be Bell having to walk on if it's him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellitor 33,114 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Per EDW on Twitter, the potential transfer is a 4* OG from last year's FSU signing class This could only be Ira Denson. The other potential transfer is MacKensie Alexander. He's unhappy at Clemson, but most people believe that he'll end up at Florida. Could it be Wilson Bell who almost signed with AU last year? Not as highly rated as Denson but higher than Dampeer maybe. Seems I recall Craig's Mobile connections made the difference for FSU. My guess would be Bell having to walk on if it's him. Not a 4*. The possible ia supposedly a 4* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autan 754 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Per EDW on Twitter, the potential transfer is a 4* OG from last year's FSU signing class This could only be Ira Denson. The other potential transfer is MacKensie Alexander. He's unhappy at Clemson, but most people believe that he'll end up at Florida. Could it be Wilson Bell who almost signed with AU last year? Not as highly rated as Denson but higher than Dampeer maybe. Seems I recall Craig's Mobile connections made the difference for FSU. My guess would be Bell having to walk on if it's him. Not a 4*. The possible ia supposedly a 4* You're right. If transfer is definitely a 4* it's not Bell. He was a 3* and probably a low one at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustache eagle 2,416 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 alexava, Corey Grant transferred to Auburn as a walk-on so it's certainly possible Alexander could do the same. Here or elsewhere. yes he can. i seem to remember that these kids were from the end of the earth in florida, a poverty stricken orange picker town or something of that nature. i doubt family can pay his way. also doubt he would want to take on the debt of a year of college when there are probably 100 or so places he can attend under scholarship. i might be wrong on all this, but i would hope dabo would not deny his release to any school outside the acc and not scheduled to play clemson. the hardship waiver is for a REAL hardship in the family - immediate family I think. An ailing grandfather probably won't be enough. Being poor and wanting to transfer to a school closer to home so it's easier on family and not wanting to pay your own way somewhere else is not a hardship. I bet the NCAA will simply say, your poor choice of your original school is your problem not ours. He may have a legit hardship but I haven't seen it here IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,973 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 i dont recall any talk of hardship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douggwilliams 61 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Well, I certainly hope Alexander comes to Auburn (if he's transferring), but let's not pretend like there is some dearth of talent in Gainesville. This season was odd. Tons of injuries. Boring offense. All sorts of nonsense going on. Even with all that, you sure they aren't going to win the East next year? UGA has no QB (see: Nebraska game), replaces 3/5 of its offensive line, and will spend spring hoping its awful defense shows a pulse this season South Carolina just lost the best (or at least dang close) QB to ever take snaps at the school, lost its best playmaker WR to the NFL draft, and saw its entirely defensive line (the strong suit of the entire team) either graduate or declare for the NFL draft (including the best player to ever put on a Carolina jersey) Vandy lost its coach, its QB, statistically the best WR in the history of the SEC, and pretty much its entire 2014 signing class Mizzou lost its QB, its LT/C, both starting DEs (the best part of its defense), and five OTHER defensive starters (including an All-Conference CB) Tennessee has had one WINNING season in the last SIX YEARS, they're 33-41 in that stretch and can legitimately refer to the Lane Kiffin season as "the good old days" (that 7-6 team is the only winner by the way), they also lost 4/5 offensive linemen PLUS the top two RBs on the roster, AND lost the ENTIRE starting defensive line and every starting LB (including three-time All-SEC LB AJ Johnson... they also lost two of the backup LBs) Kentucky is still Kentucky So yeah, it's not a stretch to think UF could play in the SEC championship game next year. It would take far less of a turnaround than what we saw in Auburn this year. That was good. I was looking for a short, succinct rundown of the league for next year. That was good enough for me. Can you do the west now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger Scout 92 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 alexava, Corey Grant transferred to Auburn as a walk-on so it's certainly possible Alexander could do the same. Here or elsewhere. yes he can.pay his way. also doubt he would want to take on the debt of a year of college when there are probably 100 or so places he can attend under scholarshihis w i seem to remember that these kids were from the end of the earth in florida, a poverty stricken orange picker town or something of that nature. i doubt family can pay his way. i might be wrong on all this, but i would hope dabo would not deny his release to any school outside the acc and not scheduled to play clemson. i think we should be carefull about how we talk about one of our players family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUbritt 611 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Well, I certainly hope Alexander comes to Auburn (if he's transferring), but let's not pretend like there is some dearth of talent in Gainesville. This season was odd. Tons of injuries. Boring offense. All sorts of nonsense going on. Even with all that, you sure they aren't going to win the East next year? UGA has no QB (see: Nebraska game), replaces 3/5 of its offensive line, and will spend spring hoping its awful defense shows a pulse this season South Carolina just lost the best (or at least dang close) QB to ever take snaps at the school, lost its best playmaker WR to the NFL draft, and saw its entirely defensive line (the strong suit of the entire team) either graduate or declare for the NFL draft (including the best player to ever put on a Carolina jersey) Vandy lost its coach, its QB, statistically the best WR in the history of the SEC, and pretty much its entire 2014 signing class Mizzou lost its QB, its LT/C, both starting DEs (the best part of its defense), and five OTHER defensive starters (including an All-Conference CB) Tennessee has had one WINNING season in the last SIX YEARS, they're 33-41 in that stretch and can legitimately refer to the Lane Kiffin season as "the good old days" (that 7-6 team is the only winner by the way), they also lost 4/5 offensive linemen PLUS the top two RBs on the roster, AND lost the ENTIRE starting defensive line and every starting LB (including three-time All-SEC LB AJ Johnson... they also lost two of the backup LBs) Kentucky is still Kentucky So yeah, it's not a stretch to think UF could play in the SEC championship game next year. It would take far less of a turnaround than what we saw in Auburn this year. That was good. I was looking for a short, succinct rundown of the league for next year. That was good enough for me. Can you do the west now? Auburn gets better, dominates the SEC West, wins SECCG, goes to the playoff, wins the national championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,973 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 alexava, Corey Grant transferred to Auburn as a walk-on so it's certainly possible Alexander could do the same. Here or elsewhere. yes he can.pay his way. also doubt he would want to take on the debt of a year of college when there are probably 100 or so places he can attend under scholarshihis w i seem to remember that these kids were from the end of the earth in florida, a poverty stricken orange picker town or something of that nature. i doubt family can pay his way. i might be wrong on all this, but i would hope dabo would not deny his release to any school outside the acc and not scheduled to play clemson. i think we should be carefull about how we talk about one of our players family nothing disrespectful was said or implied. As I remember the article they were not wealthy, if that sounds better to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passthebiscuits 6,886 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I agree alexava. I don't think you wrote anything disparaging about the player or his family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aucanucktiger 1,805 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 alexava, Corey Grant transferred to Auburn as a walk-on so it's certainly possible Alexander could do the same. Here or elsewhere. yes he can.pay his way. also doubt he would want to take on the debt of a year of college when there are probably 100 or so places he can attend under scholarshihis w i seem to remember that these kids were from the end of the earth in florida, a poverty stricken orange picker town or something of that nature. i doubt family can pay his way. i might be wrong on all this, but i would hope dabo would not deny his release to any school outside the acc and not scheduled to play clemson. i think we should be carefull about how we talk about one of our players family nothing disrespectful was said or implied. As I remember the article they were not wealthy, if that sounds better to you. My wife's family are 4th generation FL small town orange/grapefruit pickers and thanks to the federal government's bizarre notions of agricultural subsidizing when it comes to fruit, hardly hurting for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,777 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 My wife's family are 4th generation FL small town orange/grapefruit pickers and thanks to the federal government's bizarre notions of agricultural subsidizing when it comes to fruit, hardly hurting for money. I know of no subsidies for fruit except in cases of disasters. Then, the disaster aid goes to the grove owner, not any pickers. Go to the Alexander's hometown of Immokalee, Florida and look around. I've been a rather frequent visitor there since I was about age 10. It ain't pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randman5000 4,235 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Did prosch sit out a year? I cannot remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,973 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,973 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 He had extreme circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Freak 2,529 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 But, he did sit out more than he should have in 2012! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passthebiscuits 6,886 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 I'm a 5th generation nose picker. It's-not a lucrative profession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,777 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Did prosch sit out a year? I cannot remember. No, because Prosch was granted a hardship waiver due to his mother having that terminal cancer. Such waivers are not handed out willy-nilly. It has to be a severe, verifiable case. "Muh family wishes I was closer t' home" won't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuburnArch13 185 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Did prosch sit out a year? I cannot remember. No, because Prosch was granted a hardship waiver due to his mother having that terminal cancer. Such waivers are not handed out willy-nilly. It has to be a severe, verifiable case. "Muh family wishes I was closer t' home" won't get it. Jay having a sister currently enrolled at Aubun helped as well to get Auburn cleared as an acceptable place to transfer, as opposed to only someplace closer to Mobile, like USA for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBlue 0 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 But, he did sit out more than he should have in 2012! I sat out the 2012 season -- along with everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,973 Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 probably wished he had. then he would be back another year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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