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Unconstitutional Corruption in plain sight


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1 minute ago, Brad_ATX said:

No, you didn't.  And I really don't care about my language.  I'm a hell of a lot older than you think I am.

And you describe you  describe yourself as an a-hole. It's showing.

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1 minute ago, NolaAuTiger said:

What are the prerequisites in order to arrive at a constitutional violation in this regard? If accrual of profit - to the relevant conflicted business - is a prerequisite, yet the "event" is conducted at on all-cost basis, would that be fatal to the contention of a constitutional violation? 

Now that's an interesting question.  Also, it's extremely nice to discuss the actual subject of this thread again.

I think an all-cost basis surely changes the conversation.  However, we would need access as the public to the records of the resort for their purchasing history.  Can't see a private entity giving up that information.

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Just now, Tiger Sue said:

You wouldn't admit it if it hit you in  the head.

So in other words, you got nothing.  I'll humbly await your apology.

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2 minutes ago, Tiger Sue said:

And you describe you  describe yourself as an a-hole. It's showing.

I am at times.  I freely admit it.  It's called knowing who you are as a person.  We'd be a lot better off if people were more honest with themselves about who they are.

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1 minute ago, Brad_ATX said:

Now that's an interesting question.  Also, it's extremely nice to discuss the actual subject of this thread again.

I think an all-cost basis surely changes the conversation.  However, we would need access as the public to the records of the resort for their purchasing history.  Can't see a private entity giving up that information.

Yeah, it's certainly interesting. I anticipate a legal challenge by Monday. However, I am not certain standing would be proper at this point. After the event, assuming plans do not change, a party could file suit and obtain that information via discovery. 

Nonetheless, I do believe other interested entities that were "on the list" are currently in the best position to challenge the decision to have the summit at Trump Doral. While such a challenge would not be rooted in the Constitution, there's arguably a basis to file a complaint due to the patent conflict of interest. 

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Just now, NolaAuTiger said:

Yeah, it's certainly interesting. I anticipate a legal challenge by Monday. However, I am not certain standing would be proper at this point. After the event, assuming plans do not change, a party could file suit and obtain that information via discovery. 

Nonetheless, I do believe other interested entities that were "on the list" are currently in the best position to challenge the decision to have the summit at Trump Doral. While such a challenge would not be rooted in the Constitution, there's arguably a basis to file a complaint due to the patent conflict of interest. 

That was my thought.  I'm amazed there wouldn't be an argument by competitors to have a bidding process for the hosting rights.  Government could certainly pick a city, but the location within the city would normally be bid on I would think.

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5 minutes ago, Brad_ATX said:

I am at times.  I freely admit it.  It's called knowing who you are as a person.  We'd be a lot better off if people were more honest with themselves about who they are.

I guess that's our problem. I try to be nice and have civil discussion without getting nasty.

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1 minute ago, Tiger Sue said:

I guess that's our problem. I try to be nice and have civil discussion without getting nasty.

No, you try to obfuscate when you have no legs to stand on and then, when pressed on something, run and hide behind "civility".

I'm begging you for the 2nd time in this thread, don't interact with me.  I learn nothing from you and don't find you interesting or having much original intelligent thought.  I felt the same way about the former poster that I've compared you to and told him the same in the past.

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3 minutes ago, Brad_ATX said:

That was my thought.  I'm amazed there wouldn't be an argument by competitors to have a bidding process for the hosting rights.  Government could certainly pick a city, but the location within the city would normally be bid on I would think.

No it wasn't. I mentioned legal challenge and you more or less pooh poohed it. Now you are outmatched by Nola.

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4 minutes ago, Brad_ATX said:

No, you try to obfuscate when you have no legs to stand on and then, when pressed on something, run and hide behind "civility".

I'm begging you for the 2nd time in this thread, don't interact with me.  I learn nothing from you and don't find you interesting or having much original intelligent thought.  I felt the same way about the former poster that I've compared you to and told him the same in the past.

I think you engaged me first in this thread. follow your own advice. I will leave you to Nola. He will whip you.

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2 minutes ago, Tiger Sue said:

No it wasn't. I mentioned legal challenge and you more or less pooh poohed it. Now you are outmatched by Nola.

Please, tell me what part of this was something you mentioned where I agreed with Nola:

Nonetheless, I do believe other interested entities that were "on the list" are currently in the best position to challenge the decision to have the summit at Trump Doral. While such a challenge would not be rooted in the Constitution, there's arguably a basis to file a complaint due to the patent conflict of interest. 

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2 minutes ago, Tiger Sue said:

I think you engaged me first in this thread. follow your own advice.

False.  Go back to page 1 and re-read it.  Again, dense AF.

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9 minutes ago, Brad_ATX said:

False.  Go back to page 1 and re-read it.  Again, dense AF.

You are right. My mistake and I admit it. But my engagement post still stand and was a civil question.You also said there was no need for a legal challenge.Nola seems to disagree but you are civil with him because you know you are outmatched.

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5 minutes ago, Tiger Sue said:

You are right. My mistake and I admit it. But my engagement post still stand and was a civil question.You also said there was no need for a legal challenge.Nola seems to disagree but you are civil with him because you know you are outmatched.

Nope.  I respect his intellectual thought and we often have good conversations.  Respect is earned.

I still believe the laws are already on the books, which is what I said from the beginning.  The challenge in this case that NOLA speaks of is a civil one due to loss of profits by another company.  Not necessarily one of emolument law.  Monster difference.

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1 minute ago, Brad_ATX said:

Nope.  I respect his intellectual thought and we often have good conversations.  Respect is earned.

I still believe the laws are already on the books, which is what I said from the beginning.  The challenge in this case that NOLA speaks of is a civil one due to loss of profits by another company.  Not necessarily one of emolument law.  Monster difference.

I will let Nola argue his case. I never pretended to be an attorney and he is

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9 hours ago, Tiger Sue said:

I will let Nola argue his case. I never pretended to be an attorney and he is

You did a great job Sister Sue and we commoners can understand what you are saying. I think Brad hopes Trump gets arrested at the meeting. 

 

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Hasn't been mentioned, but Doral is completely unsuited for this sort of conference for security reasons. 

Good sites are typically easy to secure because they are on isolated or situated on islands or backed up to a body of water.  Doral sits in a highly populated area - surrounded by high rise buildings - located on the approach path to the Miami airport.

It would be a nightmare ($$$$$) to secure.

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On 10/18/2019 at 9:06 PM, Brad_ATX said:

That was my thought.  I'm amazed there wouldn't be an argument by competitors to have a bidding process for the hosting rights.  Government could certainly pick a city, but the location within the city would normally be bid on I would think.

Did you see it was changed?

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15 minutes ago, NolaAuTiger said:

Did you see it was changed?

I did.  Sad that it took so much backlash to make the decision, but it's the right move.

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It should have been changed. There is NO reason for a Trump property to host ANY government function. To do so is a pathetic attempt to upset people, sort of like stupid tweets.

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