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I caught the very first of the Finebaum show today and he said there was something about Borges to talk about. Does anyone know what that was?

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"Auburn offensive coordinator Al Borges apologized for having to postpone a scheduled telephone interview Monday morning, but a Washington Post reporter was in his office.

Their topic was former quarterback Jason Campbell, a first-round draft pick of the Redskins and the most recent reference on Borges' resume. Another reporter, from another town, might have asked about first-round draft picks Ronnie Brown and Carnell Williams -- two more Auburn stars, two more references on Borges' burgeoning resume.

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The recent NFL draft, following Auburn's unbeaten season, made me wonder: Has a college assistant coach ever had a better year?

In Borges' first year as Auburn's quarterback coach, Campbell went from a run-of-the-mill SEC quarterback to a run-for-the-Heisman quarterback. In Borges' first year as Auburn's offensive coordinator, Brown and Williams flourished in an offense that employed both as runners, receivers and occasionally together.

His team went 13-0 and finished second to Southern California. His boss, Tommy Tuberville, was honored as national coach of the year.

A college assistant couldn't dream up a better season unless it ended with a head-coaching job.

The epilogue: Borges didn't get so much as a nibble. No offer. No interview. Not even a call.

He just had a career year for an assistant coach. Wouldn't one athletic director just call?

"That was a little frustrating," Borges said.

Head coaching wasn't a career goal of Borges starting out. Then, after years of running offenses, running an entire team became more appealing.

But if the head-coaching call never comes, the 49-year-old coach can get along famously without it. He still qualifies as one of college coaches' great success stories -- a guy who didn't play football beyond his senior year of high school in agriculture-rich Salinas, Calif., where he pumped gas and drove a water truck before becoming a tire builder.

He remembers running over pipes as a truck driver. He remembers being as inept at building a tire as he was at driving a truck.

"Some people say, 'If I'm gonna do a job, I'm gonna do it the best I can,' " Borges said. "I never had that mentality.

"The only thing I ever did well was coach."

He did that well enough to overcome an early resume that didn't include a college degree, much less college playing experience. His path to big-time college football isn't the one less taken; it's the one never taken.

You go to junior college for a year before dropping out. You fritter away a few years on odd jobs before finally attaining stability at a tire-building plant. You quit after a year to become an assistant coach at your high school alma mater. You receive your college diploma from California State University, eight years after graduating from high school.

But all along the line -- at Diablo Valley College, in the USFL, at Portland State and Boise State -- Borges proved he could coach. Later, he was twice a finalist for the national assistant coach of the year award as UCLA's offensive coordinator in 1997 and 1998. His reputation survived what he called "the season from hell" at the University of California in 2001 and the two following years in Indiana, where Tuberville hired him after the 2003 season.

A year later, Borges has one of the toughest acts to follow in college football. His own.

"The good news about Auburn is you can replace good players with more good players," Borges said. "Here, you get enough guys where you have a chance."

His new quarterback will be sophomore Brandon Cox, whom Borges describes as "a very accurate passer with great pocket presence." His new running backs will come from a foursome of Tre Smith, who missed last season with a shoulder injury; Kenny Irons, a transfer from South Carolina; Brad Lester, who was redshirted last season; and former Maryville High School star Carl Stewart.

"Carl Stewart had a heckuva spring, beyond my expectations," Borges said. "He really ran the ball well."

While the runners and passer are new, the offense is a year older and more receptive to expansion. Auburn also will have an experienced group of receivers and a promising offensive line, led by All-SEC offensive tackle Marcus McNeil.

That should be enough for an old tire man to keep the offense rolling. "

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Too funny. Phyllis is just like my aunt. Has nuthin but crimson colored galsses.

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That was hilarious!!! Phyllis is a hoot!!

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Thank you for that, this early in the morning that was great it was AUsome. Freaking Hillarious what a great way to brighten up my day hahahahahaha

:rollin::rollin::rollin::rollin:

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I have listened to Finebaum for over 10 years now and Phyllis has never failed to entertain and continue to perpetuate the Bammer stereotype.

It was always a red letter day when she and BOB would get on the radio at the same time.

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Oka - That was the very first time I have ever listened to Phyllis - I have heard you all talk about her, but I never imagined she was a real person OR was so incredibly stupid and redneck and ignorant. (In other words, a bammer.)

That was jsut amazing. Hillarious, but amazing.

She reminded me of an evangelist at a tent revival...

"Bama WILL rise again! And don't you nay-sayers and ship jumpers be showing YOUR face at the field. We WILL RISE AGAIN!! AMEN and Hallalujah! We're gonna kick Auburn's ass!! We kicked their ass last year..."

:blink: What game was SHE watching?

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Oka - That was the very first time I have ever listened to Phyllis - I have heard you all talk about her, but I never imagined she was a real person OR was so incredibly stupid and redneck and ignorant.  (In other words, a bammer.)

That was jsut amazing.  Hillarious, but amazing.

She reminded me of an evangelist at a tent revival...

"Bama WILL rise again!  And don't you nay-sayers and ship jumpers be showing YOUR face at the field.  We WILL RISE AGAIN!! AMEN and Hallalujah!  We're gonna kick Auburn's ass!!  We kicked their ass last year..."

:blink:   What game was SHE watching?

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How many cigarettes do you think she smokes a day? I can get such a clear mental image in my head of her on the phone. Her sitting there in her housecoat and slippers. A tumbler of Old Crow on the rocks on the table next to her. A burning cigarette in her hand.

Borges might want to show he can do something without three first round draft picks in the backfield to work with. If AU continues their success without the fabulous three then he might get looked at for a HC job. Until then, who knows what he is really capable of?

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Oka - That was the very first time I have ever listened to Phyllis - I have heard you all talk about her, but I never imagined she was a real person OR was so incredibly stupid and redneck and ignorant.  (In other words, a bammer.)

That was jsut amazing.  Hillarious, but amazing.

She reminded me of an evangelist at a tent revival...

"Bama WILL rise again!  And don't you nay-sayers and ship jumpers be showing YOUR face at the field.  We WILL RISE AGAIN!! AMEN and Hallalujah!  We're gonna kick Auburn's ass!!  We kicked their ass last year..."

:blink:    What game was SHE watching?

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How many cigarettes do you think she smokes a day? I can get such a clear mental image in my head of her on the phone. Her sitting there in her housecoat and slippers. A tumbler of Old Crow on the rocks on the table next to her. A burning cigarette in her hand.

Borges might want to show he can do something without three first round draft picks in the backfield to work with. If AU continues their success without the fabulous three then he might get looked at for a HC job. Until then, who knows what he is really capable of?

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Well he turned an 8-5 team into a 13-0 SECC Team, sooo we will definately see. Just remember Campbell didn't look that great in the A Day game last year either just average. ;)

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Oka - That was the very first time I have ever listened to Phyllis - I have heard you all talk about her, but I never imagined she was a real person OR was so incredibly stupid and redneck and ignorant.  (In other words, a bammer.)

That was jsut amazing.  Hillarious, but amazing.

She reminded me of an evangelist at a tent revival...

"Bama WILL rise again!  And don't you nay-sayers and ship jumpers be showing YOUR face at the field.  We WILL RISE AGAIN!! AMEN and Hallalujah!  We're gonna kick Auburn's ass!!  We kicked their ass last year..."

:blink:   What game was SHE watching?

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How many cigarettes do you think she smokes a day? I can get such a clear mental image in my head of her on the phone. Her sitting there in her housecoat and slippers. A tumbler of Old Crow on the rocks on the table next to her. A burning cigarette in her hand.

Borges might want to show he can do something without three first round draft picks in the backfield to work with. If AU continues their success without the fabulous three then he might get looked at for a HC job. Until then, who knows what he is really capable of?

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Well he turned an 8-5 team into a 13-0 SECC Team, sooo we will definately see. Just remember Campbell didn't look that great in the A Day game last year either just average. ;)

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I am really looking forward to Jason Campbell in the NFL to see what he can really do.

Do you credit Borges for being that good last year or Nall being that bad the year before? Somewhere in between maybe?

Borges had a great reputation at UCLA, but he seemed to slip under the radar after that. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he was nothing special at Indiana.

Is there any trepidation about Borges at all? I will tell you, I am unsure of Jimbo and he has been at LSU going on 6 years. Lots of question marks.

Good luck. :cheers:

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Do you credit Borges for being that good last year or Nall being that bad the year before? Somewhere in between maybe?

Borges had a great reputation at UCLA, but he seemed to slip under the radar after that. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he was nothing special at Indiana.

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Nall was pretty bad, no doubt about that. Other teams knew what we were doing usually before the ball was snapped.

And Borges was nothing special at Indiana because there's nothing special about Indiana football. Aren't they the Kentucky of the Big10? It was a paycheck, nothing more I'm guessing...

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Do you credit Borges for being that good last year or Nall being that bad the year before? Somewhere in between maybe?

Borges had a great reputation at UCLA, but he seemed to slip under the radar after that. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he was nothing special at Indiana.

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Nall was pretty bad, no doubt about that. Other teams knew what we were doing usually before the ball was snapped.

And Borges was nothing special at Indiana because there's nothing special about Indiana football. Aren't they the Kentucky of the Big 10? It was a paycheck, nothing more I'm guessing...

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Yeah, Indiana is certainly a place where almost anyone would "slip from the radar screen".

There could also be another factor as well: It just might be that Borges is an offensive genius, but not so great at all the other areas needed for head coaching--recruiting, defense, public relations, etc. [Although his PR work at Auburn has seemed top-notch.] I'm not saying that's the case, just something to ponder. Not that anyone needs to explain losing at Indiana, but if he got the sense that he was pretty much an offensive specialist from his HC trials, he might have even more reason to enjoy a long career in the Lovliest Village of the Plains.

In any case, if Cox is performing like Campbell by late next season or 2006, a lot of people will be waving a lot of cash at CAB.

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Coaching at Indiana will certainly put you under the radar. However, here's a little tid-bit:

In his first year at IU, Borges took a 5th-year baseball player, who AB saw because he happened to be holding for kicks, and turned him into a quarterback.

In that one year, Gilbran Hamdan 1.) set a school record for passing, and 2.) was drafted by the NFL!

Just a little Borges vignette, to give you some idea of his ability.

I suspect that Auburn is going to show some pretty amazing stuff this year.

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Borges said that during this year's spring Cox graded about what Campbell did last year-about 85%

Aday is for the fans and seeing how the players respond to large crowds

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Are you sure that's not just Finebaum in drag - kind of looks like him!!

If it is REALLY her...

Man oh man... she is exactly like I imagined. Clairol Nice N Easy Black hair dye #3, a knit mini dress from Wal Mart and some do it yourself plastic beads from Hobby Lobby. And them's her church going clothes. Normally she's in blue jean shorts and an "I'm With Stupid" t-shirt with the arrow pointing up, holding a beer in a Dale #3 coozie in one hand and a cigarette in the other, wearing a pair of flip flops from the Dollar Tree.

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Are you sure that's not just Finebaum in drag - kind of looks like him!!

If it is REALLY her...

Man oh man... she is exactly like I imagined.  Clairol Nice N Easy Black hair dye #3, a knit mini dress from Wal Mart and some do it yourself plastic beads from Hobby Lobby.  And them's her church going clothes.  Normally she's in blue jean shorts and an "I'm With Stupid" t-shirt with the arrow pointing up, holding a beer in a Dale #3 coozie in one hand and a cigarette in the other, wearing a pair of flip flops from the Dollar Tree.

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:huh: wow :huh:

name: Phyllis

occupation: Barfly

she looks like she could put a hurtin on a feller.

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Jenny, that is her, I bet if we could pan around, you would see her cigarette on the ground, next to her red Monte Carlo, Camaro, or Trans Am... :big:

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Jenny, that is her, I bet if we could pan around, you would see her cigarette on the ground, next to her red Monte Carlo, Camaro, or Trans Am... :big:

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There are numerous pic of her on the site

http://www.finebaum.com/index2.html

none as seductive as the one you posted

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OMG - check out the one of her FAMILY!! THEY are also jsut as I pictured in my head! Can you say INBREED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :blink:

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