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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/merrick-garland-school-board-violence-memo-attorney-general/

This is the actual one page memo.

https://www.justice.gov/ag/page/file/1438986/download

 

For writing this appropriate and well worded memo, the Attorney General is told by Senator Tom Cotton....

"This is shameful. This testimony, your directive, your performance is shameful," Cotton told Garland. "Thank God you are not on the Supreme Court. You should resign in disgrace."

Really? The acting is so bad, yet is bought hook line and sinker by way too many simple minded people in this country.

Senator Chuck Grassley called the memo (the one I cited above) "extremely divisive"

Then we get to the real fruit basket, Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee.... this was her contribution to the discussion....

"I have to tell you that it is with much disappointment that I have watched the DOJ be so politicized," Blackburn said, "and the way things have been carried out when you look at the memo to parents, you heard a lot about that today, and it's because we're hearing a lot about that, and I just have to ask you, knowing that you really helped bring to justice those that caused the Oklahoma City bombings, would you really, honestly put parents in the same category as a Terry Nichols or a Timothy McVeigh?"

All of that acting that isn't even worthy of a B movie over a memo that tells people not to make illegal threats against elected officials.  Imagine an AG issuing a memo stating that the Justice Department would enforce the law.......such a divisive concept indeed...

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The truth is m the details.

https://www.newsweek.com/ag-garland-calls-bathroom-rape-state-case-while-siccing-fbi-parents-opinion-1642737

On Friday, the National School Boards Association (NSBA) apologized for a letter in which it equated concerned parents with "domestic terrorists" and urged the FBI to investigate them via the Patriot Act. This about-face has left the Department of Justice in a tight spot.

Indeed, just one day before the NSBA rescinded its letter, U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland testified to Congress that he had directed the DOJ and FBI to investigate parents in reliance on the original NSBA letter.

So, the letter used to get the FBI involved in the first place has been pulled back for admittedly making speciously bad claims that any parent concerned about their child's education, OR RAPE ON SCHOOL PRPOERTY THAT WAS SUBSEQURNTLY DENIED BY LIES BY THE LOUDON SCHOOL BOARD,  you are a domestic terrorist. BTW, if you believe that a father outraged by the obvious lies by the President of the Loudon County School Board, and the subsequent second rape caused by the same young man being covered up by the LCSB, is the problem and is a domestic terrorist, YAASF.

The since-retracted letter was startling in its request for federal law enforcement oversight of concerned parents. Specifically, the NSBA requested that the DOJ, FBI, Department of Homeland Security, Secret Service and the Secret Service's National Threat Assessment Center all be deployed against parents. The organization likened parents concerned about school curricula, COVID-19 protocols and the safety of their children to "a form of domestic terrorism." The NSBA cited a panoply of federal laws it thought should be deployed against parents, including the Patriot Act—a terrorism-related statute that was enacted in the wake of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Note: For the FBI etc to be called in, it has to be a NATIONALLY Coordinated Event. This was a state matter in every instance. There was no national coordination of protests alleged. So the NSBA wrote the letter to get the Feds Involved.

Instead of rejecting the NSBA's absurd request to deploy such broad-ranging federal power against concerned parents, the DOJ issued a memorandum directing the FBI and U.S. attorneys to convene meetings to discuss "strategies for addressing threats."

Attorney General Garland's testimony last week underscores the blatant federal overreach in directing the FBI to investigate parents who are concerned about school curricula. When pressed about the rape of two high school girls in two separate Loudoun County schools, the attorney general demurred, saying he has no knowledge of the national drama playing out in his literal backyard. Garland then tried to explain his ignorance of the situation by referring to the circumstances as "a state case."

U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland arrives to U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland arrives to an event at the Department of Justice on October 22, 2021 in Washington, DC.ANNA MONEYMAKER/GETTY IMAGES

There's just one problem. The NSBA letter that Attorney General Garland says he read and admits prompted him to call for the federal investigation of concerned parents cited the father of one of the Loudoun County victims as an example of so-called "domestic terrorism."

So, without citing the arrest of the father of the raped girl, the perp was recently CONVICTED ON ALL CHARGES, there was nothing to be cited as a need for the FBI etc. The father was the only citation of actual violence in the 50 states. There has been lots of intimidation and even mild non-violent misdemeanor actions, and they should all be investigated locally, or as Garland says remain a "state case."

The nation has since learned why Scott Smith, the individual arrested at the Loudoun County school board meeting, was so upset. His daughter was raped in a high school bathroom by a biological boy wearing a skirt—and

:soapbox::angryfire:

Further, if multiple rapes occurring in multiple public high schools don't merit the DOJ's attention, one wonders why the DOJ is willing to call in the FBI to investigate parents who express their concerns at local school board meetings. One doesn't have to look far to see the hypocrisy of referring to student rape as a "state" matter while simultaneously calling on the FBI to knock on the door of concerned parents.

Garland's testimony last week highlighted the overreach in applying federal terrorism laws to parents concerned about their children's schools—the most local of all issues in our system of governance. The use of violence against school board members is of course unlawful, and states have jurisdiction over such crimes. But concerned parents like Mr. Smith are not "domestic terrorists." And they should not be treated as such.

The threat of FBI investigation chills the First Amendment speech rights of parents exercising their fundamental right to direct the upbringing of their children. The attorney general should rescind his memorandum, preferably before he testifies before the Senate Judiciary Committee later today.

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https://wjla.com/news/local/scott-smith-alleged-sexual-assault-loudoun-county-public-school-board-stanley-law-group-of-virginia-lawsuit

https://www.yahoo.com/now/loudoun-county-dad-says-daughter-174943270.html

https://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article/108677/lawsuit-alleges-wild-stories-from-bryant-man-led-to-fraud

The NSBA and LCSB are now being sued and they realize that their case is very bad juju.

McAuliffe is definitely on the wrong side of this but cannot do the right thing and anger his big donors. He may lose this race, the national bell weather for the 2022 campaigns as more and more parents are outraged at how the :LCSB and the VA State Govt refuse to come to the aid of the raped girls.

 

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2 hours ago, bigbird said:

So we're citing junk articles from Indian Entertainment webites just to attack Obama now? 

Paragraph 1:

"After the incident took place, Obama called the row around it 'fake outrage' and 'phony trumped-up culture wars'

Paragraph 3:

Last week, while campaigning for Youngkin's opponent and Democratic gubernatorial candidate Terry McAuliffe, Obama attacked Youngkin's general position on education, the Capitol riot, and policing, saying, in part, "We don't have time to be wasting on these phony, trumped up culture wars. This fake outrage that the right-wing media peddles to juice their ratings. 

 

Oh ok....so Obama DIDN'T actually say any of that in reference the sexual assault did he? He was referring to Youngkins position in general on a variety of issues.

Interesting. 

 

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/10/28/ted-cruz-nazi-salute-senate-hearing/ 

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Attempting to illustrate that the threats do not warrant Justice Department involvement, the Texas Republican referenced a letter from the National School Boards Association that listed examples. “They involve things like insults,” Cruz said. “They involve a Nazi salute — that’s one of the examples.”

Slamming his hands on dais and raising his voice, Cruz continued: “My God! A parent did a Nazi salute at a school board because he thought the policies were oppressive.”

 

The senator was referring to an August incident in which police removed a man from a Birmingham, Mich., school board meeting about a student mask mandate after officials said he flashed the Nazi salute and chanted “Heil Hitler.”

Cruz then asked Garland if doing a Nazi salute at an elected official was protected by the First Amendment, and Garland replied that it was.

 

 

LOL. You know the "Culture Wars" are getting real spicy when Republicans are actively defending Nazi's, and their right to taunt public officials at school board meetings.  

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5 hours ago, DKW 86 said:

The truth is m the details.

https://www.newsweek.com/ag-garland-calls-bathroom-rape-state-case-while-siccing-fbi-parents-opinion-1642737

On Friday, the National School Boards Association (NSBA) apologized for a letter in which it equated concerned parents with "domestic terrorists" and urged the FBI to investigate them via the Patriot Act. This about-face has left the Department of Justice in a tight spot.

Indeed, just one day before the NSBA rescinded its letter, U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland testified to Congress that he had directed the DOJ and FBI to investigate parents in reliance on the original NSBA letter.

So, the letter used to get the FBI involved in the first place has been pulled back for admittedly making speciously bad claims that any parent concerned about their child's education, OR RAPE ON SCHOOL PRPOERTY THAT WAS SUBSEQURNTLY DENIED BY LIES BY THE LOUDON SCHOOL BOARD,  you are a domestic terrorist. BTW, if you believe that a father outraged by the obvious lies by the President of the Loudon County School Board, and the subsequent second rape caused by the same young man being covered up by the LCSB, is the problem and is a domestic terrorist, YAASF.

The since-retracted letter was startling in its request for federal law enforcement oversight of concerned parents. Specifically, the NSBA requested that the DOJ, FBI, Department of Homeland Security, Secret Service and the Secret Service's National Threat Assessment Center all be deployed against parents. The organization likened parents concerned about school curricula, COVID-19 protocols and the safety of their children to "a form of domestic terrorism." The NSBA cited a panoply of federal laws it thought should be deployed against parents, including the Patriot Act—a terrorism-related statute that was enacted in the wake of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Note: For the FBI etc to be called in, it has to be a NATIONALLY Coordinated Event. This was a state matter in every instance. There was no national coordination of protests alleged. So the NSBA wrote the letter to get the Feds Involved.

Instead of rejecting the NSBA's absurd request to deploy such broad-ranging federal power against concerned parents, the DOJ issued a memorandum directing the FBI and U.S. attorneys to convene meetings to discuss "strategies for addressing threats."

Attorney General Garland's testimony last week underscores the blatant federal overreach in directing the FBI to investigate parents who are concerned about school curricula. When pressed about the rape of two high school girls in two separate Loudoun County schools, the attorney general demurred, saying he has no knowledge of the national drama playing out in his literal backyard. Garland then tried to explain his ignorance of the situation by referring to the circumstances as "a state case."

U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland arrives to U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland arrives to an event at the Department of Justice on October 22, 2021 in Washington, DC.ANNA MONEYMAKER/GETTY IMAGES

There's just one problem. The NSBA letter that Attorney General Garland says he read and admits prompted him to call for the federal investigation of concerned parents cited the father of one of the Loudoun County victims as an example of so-called "domestic terrorism."

So, without citing the arrest of the father of the raped girl, the perp was recently CONVICTED ON ALL CHARGES, there was nothing to be cited as a need for the FBI etc. The father was the only citation of actual violence in the 50 states. There has been lots of intimidation and even mild non-violent misdemeanor actions, and they should all be investigated locally, or as Garland says remain a "state case."

The nation has since learned why Scott Smith, the individual arrested at the Loudoun County school board meeting, was so upset. His daughter was raped in a high school bathroom by a biological boy wearing a skirt—and

:soapbox::angryfire:

Further, if multiple rapes occurring in multiple public high schools don't merit the DOJ's attention, one wonders why the DOJ is willing to call in the FBI to investigate parents who express their concerns at local school board meetings. One doesn't have to look far to see the hypocrisy of referring to student rape as a "state" matter while simultaneously calling on the FBI to knock on the door of concerned parents.

Garland's testimony last week highlighted the overreach in applying federal terrorism laws to parents concerned about their children's schools—the most local of all issues in our system of governance. The use of violence against school board members is of course unlawful, and states have jurisdiction over such crimes. But concerned parents like Mr. Smith are not "domestic terrorists." And they should not be treated as such.

The threat of FBI investigation chills the First Amendment speech rights of parents exercising their fundamental right to direct the upbringing of their children. The attorney general should rescind his memorandum, preferably before he testifies before the Senate Judiciary Committee later today.

The original letter and the DOJ memo are two different documents, which is why I posted the DOJ memo, which was reasoned and stated the natural position of the DOJ.  I don't care what the letter from a school board said that prompted the DOJ response.  The fact is that the response was exactly as it should have been.  

The fact that Billy Joe calls Bobby Sue a name when reporting an incident to a policeman does not mean that the policeman is endorsing Billy Joe's language when he tells all those involved to act right and respect each other.

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Some of you are obviously too lazy to click and read, so below is the word for word memorandum.]


October 4, 2021
MEMORANDUM FOR DIRECTOR, FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
DIRECTOR, EXECUTIVE OFFICE FOR U.S. ATTORNEYS
ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL, et al


FROM: THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
SUBJECT: PARTNERSHIP AMONG FEDERAL, STATE, LOCAL, TRIBAL,
AND TERRITORIAL LAW ENFORCEMENT TO ADDRESS
THREATS AGAINST SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS, BOARD
MEMBERS, TEACHERS, AND STAFF


In recent months, there has been a disturbing spike in harassment, intimidation, and
threats of violence against school administrators, board members, teachers, and staff who
participate in the vital work of running our nation's public schools. While spirited debate about
policy matters is protected under our Constitution, that protection does not extend to threats of
violence or efforts to intimidate individuals based on their views.

Threats against public servants are not only illegal, they run counter to our nation's core
values. Those who dedicate their time and energy to ensuring that our children receive a proper
education in a safe environment deserve to be able to do their work without fear for their safety.

The Department takes these incidents seriously and is committed to using its authority
and resources to discourage these threats, identify them when they occur, and prosecute them
when appropriate. In the coming days, the Department will announce a series of measures
designed to address the rise in criminal conduct directed toward school personnel.

Coordination and partnership with local law enforcement is critical to implementing these
measures for the benefit of our nation's nearly 14,000 public school districts. To this end, I am
directing the Federal Bureau of Investigation, working with each United States Attorney, to
convene meetings with federal, state, local, Tribal, and territorial leaders in each federal judicial
district within 30 days of the issuance of this memorandum. These meetings will facilitate the
discussion of strategies for addressing threats against school administrators, board members,
teachers, and staff, and will open dedicated lines of communication for threat reporting,
assessment, and response.

The Department is steadfast in its commitment to protect all people in the United States
from violence, threats of violence, and other forms of intimidation arid harassment.

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And your missing our point, without the letter from the NSBA there is no reason for the FBI, a NATIONAL  crime fighting organization getting involved. 

1) MG did not call the concerned parents domestic terrorists, because they clearly are not. 

2) The letter from the NATIONAL SBA was the catalyst that got the DOJ involved, based solely on one act of violence that had nothing to do with CRT etc and was indeed just a father outraged by the lies told by the LCSB. 

3) Said letter has been retracted and is now the subject of several lawsuits. I think the father has just about as clear a case of slander as there has ever been otherwise the NSBA would never have issued the retraction letter. 

4) Notice that the retraction letter was withheld until the day AFTER MG testified.  Did not want him embarrassed in front of Congress for hours on end. 

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18 hours ago, AU9377 said:

The original letter and the DOJ memo are two different documents, which is why I posted the DOJ memo, which was reasoned and stated the natural position of the DOJ.  I don't care what the letter from a school board said that prompted the DOJ response.  The fact is that the response was exactly as it should have been.  

What I am telling you is that without the letter, the DOJ has no standing in this case to even offer services etc. This was handled at the state level where it should have been all along.

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https://www.politico.com/newsletters/weekly-education/2021/10/25/school-board-group-backtracks-on-letter-for-security-help-from-doj-798428

NSBA WALKS IT BACK: The National School Boards Association has apologized for a letter that called on President Joe Biden to use the Justice Department, Department of Homeland Security, its National Threat Assessment Center and other federal agencies to stop “threats and acts of violence” on school officials during school board meetings.

— About a month after the association sent its initial plea letter to the Biden administration, the NSBA has faced outrage on all sides — from its members, state attorneys general, lawmakers and parent advocacy groups. These critics say the involvement of the FBI in school board meetings would chill parents’ free speech. “The NSBA seems more concerned about suppressing speech with which it disagrees than real threats of violence,” more than a dozen attorneys general wrote.

— Nicole Neily, president of Parents Defending Education, a group “working to reclaim our schools from activists imposing harmful agendas,” said her group has emailed 47 state school board associations for comment on the NSBA’s Sept. 29 letter. Neily said 19 have distanced themselves from the group’s letter, and many state school boards said they had not been made aware of the NSBA’s request ahead of time.

— “On behalf of NSBA, we regret and apologize for the letter,” a memo from NSBA’s board to its members said. “There was no justification for some of the language included in the letter. We should have had a better process in place to allow for consultation on a communication of this significance. We apologize also for the strain and stress this situation has caused you and your organizations.”

— “A $19 million trade association has nothing on a bunch of mad moms,” Neily said in a statement in response to the apology. More than 7,500 people have also sent letters directly to the Justice Department, she told POLITICO, in order to say that parents are not domestic terrorists.”DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

GARLAND TO TESTIFY WEDNESDAY BEFORE THE SENATE: Attorney General Merrick Garland defended the Justice Department’s planned response to threats of violence against school board members and educators during the House Judiciary committee hearing last week. He’s expected to testify on Wednesday before the Senate Judiciary Committee, and his memo is likely to come up.

— Garland told the House Judiciary Committee last week that there is nothing in his memo that suggests FBI agents will be attending school board meetings. “I do not believe that parents who testify, speak, argue with, [or] complain about school boards and schools should be classified as domestic terrorists or any kind of criminals,” he said.

Then why are they doing anything? NO STATE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY HAS ASKED THEM TO HELP IN ANY WAY.

— The Justice Department was also expected to unveil a series of additional measures to “address the rise in criminal conduct directed toward school personnel,” as Garland wrote. In the memo, dated Oct. 4, he also directed the FBI to set up meetings with local leaders and “open dedicated lines of communication for threat reporting assessment, and response” within 30 days. Garland told lawmakers last week that he didn’t know how many of those meetings had already occurred, but that he expected them to continue taking place.

—“People are scared,” Neily said. “They’re like, are we going to be investigated? Do we need to worry? What happens if the FBI comes for us?”

SEIG HEIL BABY!!!! The Gestapo is on its way...This was the whole point here was to get the parents scared enough to get back in line and continue to take all the fail that has been dished out in public education over the last 60 years or so.

“Part of the problem is, … how do you define threats and harassment?” she added. “If a school board member says, ‘You booed me, that's harassing, I'm calling the cops,’ … that's different from a legal standard. I still think people are really worried because even if they go and engage in the process in good faith, they can still be accused of being a malign actor.”

This the whole point. No state agency invited the DOJ in. Remember that. If no state law enforcement agency asked for them to be there, then why are they still coming? Why is MG adamant that the monitoring continue? Please note, MG is not involving any state agency in what the DOJ are doing. The DOJ is not sharing any of the info they have so far gathered with any state level law enforcement agency either.  Just saying it for clarity: DOJ is not invited in, was not requested AND they are sharing no data that they are collecting. Seig Heil Baby!!! 

— The group, through public records requests, also found that the board of the NSBA was not consulted before their letter was sent. An email sent by Chip Slaven, NSBA’s interim executive director, also indicated White House staff had been in communication with NSBA staff over “several weeks” while the letter was being drafted.

White house Staff were involved in the drafting of the first letter and all the crazy accusations. The letter was then ramrodded down the throats of the NSBA Board, over the Board's objections. It appears that this was exactly like it I said it was. This letter, and slanderous accusations was put together to purposefully set the stage for DOJ to shut down the speech of the Concerned Parents, even the father of a raped girl, shut down Free Speech against a now convicted rapist. The letter was "give standing" where there was none so that MG could send in the DOJ "Gestapo" over the protests of Free Speech Attorneys, State Attorney Generals, state police forces etc. PLEASE NOTE, NOT ONE STATE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY ASKED FOR DOJ INVOLVEMENT.  A small bunch in the NSBA, working against their board and members conspired with the Biden WH Staff to gin up a reason to call in the DOJ since no law enforcement agency would go along with it. 

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1 hour ago, DKW 86 said:

A small bunch in the NSBA, working against their board and members conspired with Dr. Jill Biden WH Staff to gin up a reason to call in the DOJ since no law enforcement agency would go along with it. 

There; fixed it for you.

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On 10/28/2021 at 3:05 PM, DKW 86 said:

And your missing our point, without the letter from the NSBA there is no reason for the FBI, a NATIONAL  crime fighting organization getting involved. 

1) MG did not call the concerned parents domestic terrorists, because they clearly are not. 

2) The letter from the NATIONAL SBA was the catalyst that got the DOJ involved, based solely on one act of violence that had nothing to do with CRT etc and was indeed just a father outraged by the lies told by the LCSB. 

3) Said letter has been retracted and is now the subject of several lawsuits. I think the father has just about as clear a case of slander as there has ever been otherwise the NSBA would never have issued the retraction letter. 

4) Notice that the retraction letter was withheld until the day AFTER MG testified.  Did not want him embarrassed in front of Congress for hours on end. 

There is no point being missed.  The NSBA didn't withdraw their concern over the issue.  They simply retracted the language of the letter.  The AG has nothing to do with the NSBA's choice of words.  He issued a memorandum stating the position of the DOJ.  He was being attacked for that memorandum.  As you can see, the memorandum did not address anyone inappropriately.

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6 hours ago, I_M4_AU said:

There; fixed it for you.

What problem do you see in that memorandum?  There is none, so this should be interesting.

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11 minutes ago, AU9377 said:

What problem do you see in that memorandum?  There is none, so this should be interesting.

It’s not the memorandum itself, its the fact that in just 5 days after the NSBA sent a letter to Biden (Dr Jill Biden) the DOJ addresses the threats to School Board Members with no data supporting such a claim other than the letter from the NSBA.  You can’t see this?

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16 minutes ago, I_M4_AU said:

It’s not the memorandum itself, its the fact that in just 5 days after the NSBA sent a letter to Biden (Dr Jill Biden) the DOJ addresses the threats to School Board Members with no data supporting such a claim other than the letter from the NSBA.  You can’t see this?

The memorandum clearly begins by stating that spirited debate is protected by the constitution.  I have no problem with the DOJ issuing this statement, regardless of how the concern was relayed to the DOJ.  This is not uncommon.  Inappropriate would be for Biden to demand that Garland investigate Republican or right wing groups on the local level.  That wasn't done.

Those type things were done as matter of course by Bill Barr. It is disgraceful that a U.S. Senator would call for Garland to resign simply for issuing a memorandum that reminds everyone to be civil.

 

 

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52 minutes ago, AU9377 said:

The memorandum clearly begins by stating that spirited debate is protected by the constitution.  I have no problem with the DOJ issuing this statement, regardless of how the concern was relayed to the DOJ.  This is not uncommon.  Inappropriate would be for Biden to demand that Garland investigate Republican or right wing groups on the local level.  That wasn't done.

Those type things were done as matter of course by Bill Barr. It is disgraceful that a U.S. Senator would call for Garland to resign simply for issuing a memorandum that reminds everyone to be civil.

 

 

To the bolded part; it would have if there were no backlash, guaranteed. Senator Booker evoked the alt right in his questioning and even drew comparisons to the Parkland shooting in his diatribe conflating upset parents to a mass shooting.  There is no reason to escalate parents being upset at School Board Meetings to the Federal level.  The local police were handling it quite well and did not ask for help.  Garland should have just asked the local police at the locations brought up in the NSBA’s letter how they were handling the situation.  I guess you can’t do that when the NSBA were in negotiations with Jill about how to proceed.

As to Bill Barr; is this the same Bill Barr that said after the election that there was not enough voter irregularities to affect the outcome of the election?  Bill Barr was one of the better AGs we (meaning America) has ever had.  He is a man of honor.

”Thank God you are not on the Supreme Court”.  Senator Tom Cotton.

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4 hours ago, I_M4_AU said:

It’s not the memorandum itself, its the fact that in just 5 days after the NSBA sent a letter to Biden (Dr Jill Biden) the DOJ addresses the threats to School Board Members with no data supporting such a claim other than the letter from the NSBA.  You can’t see this?

He is pretending to be as blnd as Ray Charles. 

 

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5 hours ago, I_M4_AU said:

To the bolded part; it would have if there were no backlash, guaranteed. Senator Booker evoked the alt right in his questioning and even drew comparisons to the Parkland shooting in his diatribe conflating upset parents to a mass shooting.  There is no reason to escalate parents being upset at School Board Meetings to the Federal level.  The local police were handling it quite well and did not ask for help.  Garland should have just asked the local police at the locations brought up in the NSBA’s letter how they were handling the situation.  I guess you can’t do that when the NSBA were in negotiations with Jill about how to proceed.

As to Bill Barr; is this the same Bill Barr that said after the election that there was not enough voter irregularities to affect the outcome of the election?  Bill Barr was one of the better AGs we (meaning America) has ever had.  He is a man of honor.

”Thank God you are not on the Supreme Court”.  Senator Tom Cotton.

Bill Barr had sense enough to know that Trump's demands that other people assist him in committing crimes for the purpose of securing another term was a bridge too far.  Unfortunately, like too many Republicans, they refuse to speak the truth out of cowardly fear of the former President.

Prior to that act, Barr had assisted the President by acting as his legal counsel moreso than the U.S. Attorney General.  He went to lengths not many, if any, other AG has gone to assist a sitting President in helping his friends and pursuing his political rivals.  The truth of the matter is that Garland should be on the court.  He should have, at the very least, been given a vote up or down.  He is far from a leftist jurist.  He is very moderate in his views and in his prior rulings.

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2 hours ago, DKW 86 said:

Goebbels is so proud. Gin up a BS reason to sic the national police on common people over nothing. 

No part of that memorandum sics national police on common people.  It offers cooperation and assistance if needed, but in now way promotes going after anyone.

You are assuming some grand conspiracy exists that simply isn't supported by facts. 

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Well there is no reason whatsoever for the FBI, the NSA, etc, our national police to be investigating sstate law crimes that to be frank havent happened. 

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1 hour ago, AU9377 said:

Bill Barr had sense enough to know that Trump's demands that other people assist him in committing crimes for the purpose of securing another term was a bridge too far.  Unfortunately, like too many Republicans, they refuse to speak the truth out of cowardly fear of the former President.

Prior to that act, Barr had assisted the President by acting as his legal counsel moreso than the U.S. Attorney General.  He went to lengths not many, if any, other AG has gone to assist a sitting President in helping his friends and pursuing his political rivals.  The truth of the matter is that Garland should be on the court.  He should have, at the very least, been given a vote up or down.  He is far from a leftist jurist.  He is very moderate in his views and in his prior rulings.

More than Eric “I got your back” Holder? Are you joking?

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11 hours ago, DKW 86 said:

Well there is no reason whatsoever for the FBI, the NSA, etc, our national police to be investigating sstate law crimes that to be frank havent happened. 

Where do you see Garland suggesting that will happen independently of local and state law enforcement?

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11 hours ago, jj3jordan said:

More than Eric “I got your back” Holder? Are you joking?

Not joking in the least. Holder, in my opinion, was not a great AG, but he didn't stink up the place anywhere near the level of Bill Barr.

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