icanthearyou 4,465 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Social Security has no real fiscal threat. The threat is purely greed (and the amount owed to the trust fund). WE are ALL being robbed. We have moved too far to the political right. We have been trained to vote against our own interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubiefifty 17,343 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 plus the facts that both sides borrowed from the fund and never paid back a penny i ever heard of. why have they not been held liable? i mean i know folks that did not have it would be lucky to not go hungry with the price of dog food now. they did not borrow it they TOOK it so when you borrow something you pay it back right? and we just rolled over i guess. i never heard a word about it when it was going on. now in the future stuff will continue to rise and the checks will not. i worked too long for the feds without paying in so i get 133 bucks am month after medicare. if i did not have my civil service retirement i would be screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,779 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Get real. Nobody is going to let Social Security fail. That would be political suicide. Talk of such failure is a meaningless political scare tactic, nothing more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeTiger 5,308 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 28 minutes ago, Mikey said: Get real. Nobody is going to let Social Security fail. That would be political suicide. Talk of such failure is a meaningless political scare tactic, nothing more. I feel like you are replying based on the title of the thread alone and didn't actually watch the video. The video isn't a "scare tactic" or doomer video. It simply gives a concise reason why Soc Sec is so underfunded and how we can try to rectify that through tax policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,779 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 1 minute ago, CoffeeTiger said: I feel like you are replying based on the title of the thread alone and didn't actually watch the video. You are correct. I didn't bother watching a video that addresses a problem that does not exist. Social Security will continue, underfunded doesn't matter because politicians will figure out loopholes to keep it alive. If Biden can piss away a trillion dollars to feed the Great God of climate change, they will find trillions more to fund Social Security. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeTiger 5,308 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mikey said: You are correct. I didn't bother watching a video that addresses a problem that does not exist. Social Security will continue, underfunded doesn't matter because politicians will figure out loopholes to keep it alive. If Biden can piss away a trillion dollars to feed the Great God of climate change, they will find trillions more to fund Social Security. Maybe a better idea would be for our politicians to actually correct the problem now than wait till a crisis point where we have to try and find a 'loophole' to keep it funded. You sure do have a lot of confidence in a political system that brings our nation on the brink of default every few years because they can't figure out the debt ceiling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanthearyou 4,465 Posted June 28, 2023 Author Share Posted June 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Mikey said: You are correct. I didn't bother watching a video that addresses a problem that does not exist. Social Security will continue, underfunded doesn't matter because politicians will figure out loopholes to keep it alive. If Biden can piss away a trillion dollars to feed the Great God of climate change, they will find trillions more to fund Social Security. Yes. You do not need to understand policy when,,, you understand the fact that liberals are the problem. If them libtards is for it,,, I aint. You are a great American thinker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,792 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 22 hours ago, icanthearyou said: Social Security has no real fiscal threat. The threat is purely greed (and the amount owed to the trust fund). WE are ALL being robbed. We have moved too far to the political right. We have been trained to vote against our own interests. Trained for ICHY = we are all morons 🤣 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanthearyou 4,465 Posted June 28, 2023 Author Share Posted June 28, 2023 46 minutes ago, autigeremt said: Trained for ICHY = we are all morons 🤣 You are correct. Your angry ignorance is a prime example. You unwittingly want to trample all over human rights, individual liberty for the sake of the "free market", corporate personhood, corporate deregulation. You do not understand politics or, power. Yet, you are angry and defiant. You cannot, do not, ever explain with any thoughtful reasoning. The people of this country have been trained to revere capitalism, capital, the capitalist. Almost any one sided appraisal is utterly stupid. But hey, keep being angry, keep voting for concentrated power and wealth, keep voting for the deterioration of society. Never admit you have been duped. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubaseball 2,700 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Says the guy on an Internet forum board. Lol. He kills me with all this capitalism nonsense. He literally doesn’t understand without it, he wouldn’t be able to write his drivel every day. So be it, on with it itchy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,779 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 13 hours ago, CoffeeTiger said: You sure do have a lot of confidence in a political system that brings our nation on the brink of default every few years because they can't figure out the debt ceiling. I have confidence that no politician or political party will risk the fallout that would result should Social Security fail to deliver the monthly payments on time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanthearyou 4,465 Posted June 29, 2023 Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 18 hours ago, aubaseball said: Says the guy on an Internet forum board. Lol. He kills me with all this capitalism nonsense. He literally doesn’t understand without it, he wouldn’t be able to write his drivel every day. So be it, on with it itchy. We no longer have a capitalist economy. The capitalists do not compete. We compete for the capitalists. Therefore, the accelerating rate at which wealth and power are concentrating will continue. Eventually, enough people will understand. But first, more will have to suffer. This is precisely what led to the Great Depression. The economic strength of this country is the middle class, the worker/consumer class. Nearly one third has been eliminated over the past few decades. Extreme inequality erodes society. It is not sustainable. History. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 13,285 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 18 hours ago, aubaseball said: Says the guy on an Internet forum board. Lol. He kills me with all this capitalism nonsense. He literally doesn’t understand without it, he wouldn’t be able to write his drivel every day. So be it, on with it itchy. Do you think Denmark is capitalist? Socialist? Something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,633 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, Mikey said: I have confidence that no politician or political party will risk the fallout that would result should Social Security fail to deliver the monthly payments on time. Probably so. But the Republicans would cut benefits. Democrats would raise the FICA income cut-off. Edited June 29, 2023 by homersapien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,633 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 19 hours ago, aubaseball said: Says the guy on an Internet forum board. Lol. He kills me with all this capitalism nonsense. He literally doesn’t understand without it, he wouldn’t be able to write his drivel every day. So be it, on with it itchy. So, can I take it you support "trickle down" economics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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