More Arrests in T-Town?

[DKW 86 7,439]

http://forums.tidesports.com/eve/forums/a/...0736#4171060736

Posted July 15, 2007 12:05 PM

Roy Upchurch and Brandon Deaderick getting arrested Friday night at The Legacy? I was on the strip Friday and Upchurch and Deaderick, and three other assumed football players I didn't recognize, tried getting some underage girls into the Legacy. They got in an arguement and subsequent fight with the bouncers over it and UAPD and TPD responded. A big fight with the 5 players and the police went down. Upchurch and Deaderick got taken in by TPD and the other three were hauled in by UAPD. Deaderick head-butted the back window out of the patrol car and had to be maced by the cops to get him under control. Why isn't this on the news or in the papers?

[TigerMD 0]

It will be come tomorrow on the sportstalk shows in B'ham. They don't cover anything up for UAT around here. It'll be interesting to hear the callers reactions. Wait a second...what have I been drinking? Nevermind, we'll see if this is another cover it up at all costs. Maybe Saban will give them a "I Kreme Kone" and put their handprints in the sidewalk too.

[keoson7 28]

they aren't in class they have to do something for entertainment.

"We were going through spring practice,'' Saban said, "and we had some guys talking about winning the national championship. I said, 'You guys don't even go to class. What are you talking about? Until you learn to do it right and you're responsible for your own self-determination, you're not going to be successful in anything.'

"I told them, 'Those guys at LSU, those guys at Tennessee, those guys at Auburn, they're doing it right. And that's who you're competing against. Not yourself. You're competing against them.' "

[GalensGhost 0]

Why are we even talking about this?

Things in this situation aren't as they seem. The guys who were trying to get the girls into the club were doing it for their friends. It's a simple misunderstanding. There wasn't a fight, they were just congratulating each other on a great A-Day. They were hugging. And the police? They came to escort the players on an impromptou victory tour around the strip in practice for the upcoming SEC and national championship celebrations.

My sources on this are impeccable. Unimpeachable.

Do you really want to see some guys go to jail for having fun with their friends? Can't you put the bama hate aside for just one minute and remember that these are just kids?

[runswithscissors 33]

if it is legit, they need to be gone. period. but seeing as how that was posted by a guy with only 5 posts on the board, i don't know how much stock i would put into it until i saw the media pick it up and report it as fact, not rumor. not saying there's no way its true, simply saying that i would wait for a more credible source before jumping all over it.

[GalensGhost 0]

if it is legit, they need to be gone. period. but seeing as how that was posted by a guy with only 5 posts on the board, i don't know how much stock i would put into it until i saw the media pick it up and report it as fact, not rumor. not saying there's no way its true, simply saying that i would wait for a more credible source before jumping all over it.

I assume this is a spinoff thread from Tuscaloosa News site where this story is discussed. It's amusing to see Bama fans there discussing the probability that if there is a story it's being covered up in such a matter-of-fact manner. The idea that Saban would know before the press and quash it, the idea that tuscaloosa business owners would muscle the T-News to prevent the story from appearing as well as the notion that Cecil would do his best to bury the story to protect UA are all blithely offered and accepted as absolutes. Guess this sort of stuff just comes naturally to you guys.

http://forums.tuscaloosanews.com/eve/forum.../5811070736/p/1

And this comment from a separate thread in the Tusc News sports forum pretty much sums up what it means to be a bama fan:

First off I want to say that we are being our on worse enemy by posting this on the freakin internet. Even if it could be swept under the rug somehow, it wont be with everyone talking about it.

And this comment, from yet another thread on the Tusc News sports board adds insult to injury. The morning after the alleged fight, bama fans are already firmly in the "we don't need them anyway because we roll five deep" delusion:

Don't forget that, barring injuries, we still have Terry Grant, Jimmy Johns, and Glen Coffee in the backfield. Upchurch was #4 at best in the spring. Deaderick I have not heard anything really stellar about him either.

That right there is the disgrace you all share. It's why the sporting world thinks of you as inbred jackasses.

[runswithscissors 33]

if it is legit, they need to be gone. period. but seeing as how that was posted by a guy with only 5 posts on the board, i don't know how much stock i would put into it until i saw the media pick it up and report it as fact, not rumor. not saying there's no way its true, simply saying that i would wait for a more credible source before jumping all over it.

I assume this is a spinoff thread from Tuscaloosa News site where this story is discussed. It's amusing to see Bama fans there discussing the probability that if there is a story it's being covered up in such a matter-of-fact manner. The idea that Saban would know before the press and quash it, the idea that tuscaloosa business owners would muscle the T-News to prevent the story from appearing as well as the notion that Cecil would do his best to bury the story to protect UA are all blithely offered and accepted as absolutes. Guess this sort of stuff just comes naturally to you guys.

http://forums.tuscaloosanews.com/eve/forum.../5811070736/p/1

its not a spinoff thread, look at the username of the person posting the story. it is the same username going site to site that has "forgotten" his username and had to make a new one on each board posting the story. its the same username every time. but then again, you're always all about a good cover up. you're telling me if i registered a new username and came here and started talking about how Tray Blackmon, Quentin Groves, and CTT went out last night and i saw them get arrested, etc, you would invest 100% belief in it?

[GalensGhost 0]

if it is legit, they need to be gone. period. but seeing as how that was posted by a guy with only 5 posts on the board, i don't know how much stock i would put into it until i saw the media pick it up and report it as fact, not rumor. not saying there's no way its true, simply saying that i would wait for a more credible source before jumping all over it.

I assume this is a spinoff thread from Tuscaloosa News site where this story is discussed. It's amusing to see Bama fans there discussing the probability that if there is a story it's being covered up in such a matter-of-fact manner. The idea that Saban would know before the press and quash it, the idea that tuscaloosa business owners would muscle the T-News to prevent the story from appearing as well as the notion that Cecil would do his best to bury the story to protect UA are all blithely offered and accepted as absolutes. Guess this sort of stuff just comes naturally to you guys.

http://forums.tuscaloosanews.com/eve/forum.../5811070736/p/1

its not a spinoff thread, look at the username of the person posting the story. it is the same username going site to site that has "forgotten" his username and had to make a new one on each board posting the story. its the same username every time. but then again, you're always all about a good cover up. you're telling me if i registered a new username and came here and started talking about how Tray Blackmon, Quentin Groves, and CTT went out last night and i saw them get arrested, etc, you would invest 100% belief in it?

I consider it to be a spinoff thread because it's posted in a different area of the forum and is eliciting responses from a different group. Call it what you want, anything beyond that is semantics.

The veracity of the story is of little consequence to me. Whether it's true or not, the thing that stands out to me is the reaction of your idiot fan base.

First, it's clearly obvious that most WANT it covered up if it turns out to be true.

Second, they have no qualms about assuming that Saban would bury it, Cecil would bury it or the T-News could be muscled by Tuscaloosa businesses to cover it up.

Third, there are already those who are blaming Auburn. Yeah, I guess some squirrels outfitted in Auburn espionage gear snuck over to Tuscaloosa and injected the Bama football team with crazy juice and then scampered back down highway 82.

I love how stereotypically stupid it makes all of you look.

[runswithscissors 33]

if it is legit, they need to be gone. period. but seeing as how that was posted by a guy with only 5 posts on the board, i don't know how much stock i would put into it until i saw the media pick it up and report it as fact, not rumor. not saying there's no way its true, simply saying that i would wait for a more credible source before jumping all over it.

I assume this is a spinoff thread from Tuscaloosa News site where this story is discussed. It's amusing to see Bama fans there discussing the probability that if there is a story it's being covered up in such a matter-of-fact manner. The idea that Saban would know before the press and quash it, the idea that tuscaloosa business owners would muscle the T-News to prevent the story from appearing as well as the notion that Cecil would do his best to bury the story to protect UA are all blithely offered and accepted as absolutes. Guess this sort of stuff just comes naturally to you guys.

http://forums.tuscaloosanews.com/eve/forum.../5811070736/p/1

its not a spinoff thread, look at the username of the person posting the story. it is the same username going site to site that has "forgotten" his username and had to make a new one on each board posting the story. its the same username every time. but then again, you're always all about a good cover up. you're telling me if i registered a new username and came here and started talking about how Tray Blackmon, Quentin Groves, and CTT went out last night and i saw them get arrested, etc, you would invest 100% belief in it?

I consider it to be a spinoff thread because it's posted in a different area of the forum and is eliciting responses from a different group. Call it what you want, anything beyond that is semantics.

The veracity of the story is of little consequence to me. Whether it's true or not, the thing that stands out to me is the reaction of your idiot fan base.

First, it's clearly obvious that most WANT it covered up if it turns out to be true.

Second, they have no qualms about assuming that Saban would bury it, Cecil would bury it or the T-News could be muscled by Tuscaloosa businesses to cover it up.

Third, there are already those who are blaming Auburn. Yeah, I guess some squirrels outfitted in Auburn espionage gear snuck over to Tuscaloosa and injected the Bama football team with crazy juice and then scampered back down highway 82.

I love how stereotypically stupid it makes all of you look.

when its posted by the same person over and over on different sites, thats not a spinoff thread. a spinoff thread would be someone seeing something on this site and then going back to their's and saying "hey, AUNation is talking about this...what do you think?"

the reaction to the post so far range mostly from "is this still just a net rumor" to "the RB position is about to get thinner". there is one person on there that says that UA carries a big stick and would cover it up. you speak as if there is mass agreeance that something is going on, and that is not the case.

the only "blame" mentioning AU is one person replying to someone asking if it is a net rumor, and he states:

"Nothing showing up on T-town's police blotter about players being arrested. Rumor started by auburn fan probably.Here is a link to the blotter.

http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...ry=NEWS11"

when you have one person going around registering the same exact username on different sites just to post that story, what does it make you think? do you really think no national media will pick up on this? if it is true, its going to get out to the media and they will look at it and if it is the truth they will report it as such. if it is true, i hope they are both gone. stuff like that isn't tolerable.

[GalensGhost 0]

if it is legit, they need to be gone. period. but seeing as how that was posted by a guy with only 5 posts on the board, i don't know how much stock i would put into it until i saw the media pick it up and report it as fact, not rumor. not saying there's no way its true, simply saying that i would wait for a more credible source before jumping all over it.

I assume this is a spinoff thread from Tuscaloosa News site where this story is discussed. It's amusing to see Bama fans there discussing the probability that if there is a story it's being covered up in such a matter-of-fact manner. The idea that Saban would know before the press and quash it, the idea that tuscaloosa business owners would muscle the T-News to prevent the story from appearing as well as the notion that Cecil would do his best to bury the story to protect UA are all blithely offered and accepted as absolutes. Guess this sort of stuff just comes naturally to you guys.

http://forums.tuscaloosanews.com/eve/forum.../5811070736/p/1

its not a spinoff thread, look at the username of the person posting the story. it is the same username going site to site that has "forgotten" his username and had to make a new one on each board posting the story. its the same username every time. but then again, you're always all about a good cover up. you're telling me if i registered a new username and came here and started talking about how Tray Blackmon, Quentin Groves, and CTT went out last night and i saw them get arrested, etc, you would invest 100% belief in it?

I consider it to be a spinoff thread because it's posted in a different area of the forum and is eliciting responses from a different group. Call it what you want, anything beyond that is semantics.

The veracity of the story is of little consequence to me. Whether it's true or not, the thing that stands out to me is the reaction of your idiot fan base.

First, it's clearly obvious that most WANT it covered up if it turns out to be true.

Second, they have no qualms about assuming that Saban would bury it, Cecil would bury it or the T-News could be muscled by Tuscaloosa businesses to cover it up.

Third, there are already those who are blaming Auburn. Yeah, I guess some squirrels outfitted in Auburn espionage gear snuck over to Tuscaloosa and injected the Bama football team with crazy juice and then scampered back down highway 82.

I love how stereotypically stupid it makes all of you look.

when its posted by the same person over and over on different sites, thats not a spinoff thread. a spinoff thread would be someone seeing something on this site and then going back to their's and saying "hey, AUNation is talking about this...what do you think?"

the reaction to the post so far range mostly from "is this still just a net rumor" to "the RB position is about to get thinner". there is one person on there that says that UA carries a big stick and would cover it up. you speak as if there is mass agreeance that something is going on, and that is not the case.

the only "blame" mentioning AU is one person replying to someone asking if it is a net rumor, and he states:

"Nothing showing up on T-town's police blotter about players being arrested. Rumor started by auburn fan probably.Here is a link to the blotter.

http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...ry=NEWS11"

when you have one person going around registering the same exact username on different sites just to post that story, what does it make you think? do you really think no national media will pick up on this? if it is true, its going to get out to the media and they will look at it and if it is the truth they will report it as such. if it is true, i hope they are both gone. stuff like that isn't tolerable.

You don't understand the concept of spinoff. At all. But nice diversionary tactic. Get into a debate over the semantics of the word "spinoff" so as to obfuscate the point of the discussion. So far on that board there are four different topics that all relate to the first one posted. They are, by definition, spinoffs.

And I guess you missed the part where one goober said the "turds would stop at nothing to bring bama down" referring to AU fans.

You can read what you want into it. This, like most everything negative that's bama related, will be buried as quickly as they can possibly dig.

BTW, how often are you going to post there in hopes of countering the rampant idiocy of your fellow fans by injecting a semblance of rationality?

[bellefay1 1]

well....silly thread aside they did get arrested

http://tidesports.com/article/20070715/NEWS/70715003/1011

[keoson7 28]

No fights or injuries REPORTED. Lift rug, sweep pile under.

[WAR-MATT 2]

Bet they don't miss a game, that's the two weakest positions for lil Nicky.

[BamaGrad03 0]

They were charged with misdemeanors. I guess we should throw them in prison for the next 10 years.

[bellefay1 1]

They were charged with misdemeanors. I guess we should throw them in prison for the next 10 years.

I can't speak for dude with the David Caruso sunglasses/kiss signature...just giving the link. I thought someone on this side was supposed to suggest the over the top punishment before y'all responded anyway.

[tiger88 934]

They were charged with misdemeanors. I guess we should throw them in prison for the next 10 years.

You are always so quick to rationalize a defense for bama. Rationalizations are too easy. There is always one to be found.

Lets just be thankful these losers were stopped. If all they can score is underage girls someone might want to encourage them to whack off a little more when the hormones are raging.

[PChamp119 96]

well....silly thread aside they did get arrested

http://tidesports.com/article/20070715/NEWS/70715003/1011

Holy crap... he rushed for 37 years!! That's quite impressive

[BamaGrad03 0]

They were charged with misdemeanors. I guess we should throw them in prison for the next 10 years.

You are always so quick to rationalize a defense for bama. Rationalizations are too easy. There is always one to be found.

Lets just be thankful these losers were stopped. If all they can score is underage girls someone might want to encourage them to whack off a little more when the hormones are raging.

Underage meaning not 21. Roy Upchurch is 21, the girl he was trying to get in could have been 20. What's the problem?

I can't speak for dude with the David Caruso sunglasses/kiss signature...just giving the link. I thought someone on this side was supposed to suggest the over the top punishment before y'all responded anyway.

Quick...everybody duck...it's coming.

[AUdad4kicks 0]

Bet they don't miss a game, that's the two weakest positions for lil Nicky.

I guess we will find out how tough a disciplinarian $aban is.

Wasn't that one of the reasons uat would be back this year? I mean, if they had just been disciplined last year they would have won.

[GalensGhost 0]

I can't speak for dude with the David Caruso sunglasses/kiss signature...just giving the link. I thought someone on this side was supposed to suggest the over the top punishment before y'all responded anyway.

David !($@%&* Caruso? David %(@!#%$& Caruso? Are you !*%*#@( kidding me?

Tony Soprano. James Gandolfini. Tony Soprano. James Gandolfini

Have you lost your mind? It's Tony Soprano. David Caruso should hope to ever, ever be half the actor James Gandolfini was as Tony Soprano. He should hope to ever be on a show with 1/10th the gravitas of The Sopranos.

Back on topic. They should be thrown in prison, sure. Check my first sarcastic post. It didn't take long for the gist of it to be trotted out.

[Tiger in Spain 0]

Underage meaning not 21. Roy Upchurch is 21, the girl he was trying to get in could have been 20. What's the problem?

Technically, it's against the law. He should have known this and not acted like a savage when confronted by the hired goon at the door.

[runswithscissors 33]

Underage meaning not 21. Roy Upchurch is 21, the girl he was trying to get in could have been 20. What's the problem?

Technically, it's against the law. He should have known this and not acted like a savage when confronted by the hired goon at the door.

it sounds like Deaderick was probably the one mostly acting like a savage, hence the $1500 bond. resisting arrest is a huge no-no in my book. i'm also a reserve with our local police, and i've had to "ASP" some folks a few questions when they want to resist. when you resist arrest that shows a certain mentality, and my opinion is that sort of mentality does not need to be on a football team. as for Upchurch, it doesn't seem all that clear exactly what he is charged with. with only a $300 bond and considering the circumstances, it sounds like criminal mischief/tresspass, but i don't know that for a fact. if all he did was argue with the bouncer or refuse to leave, whatever, he needs to be disciplined yes. kicked off the team, probably not. but it wouldn't break my heard to see Deaderick go.

[sntemp 0]

From the article....

"The owner was having problems with a group of men outside of a business,” Kosloff said. “The group refused to leave. The gentleman who was arrested would not leave when he was asked to do so.”"

What was this fool thinking, I fear for this owners establishment.

[GalensGhost 0]

RWS -

Here's the mentality of some of the folks in the Tusc News forum (typical Bama fans)

Maybe they didn't deserve to be peppersprayed and the TPD is being cautious about charging them because they don't want to face an excessive brutality suit.

I'm absolutely on the player's side on this one. If they were in a fight with peaceful bystanders, they'd be facing felony assault charges. If they'd injured police officers while resisting arrest, they'd be facing felony charges. So what if they damaged a police car. As long as they pay for the damage and didn't injure anyone, what's the big deal? I've got to assume that there was a good reason for them to be fighting.

I don't think they should be punished at all by the football program. Whatever happens to them in court should be punishment enough. If they satisfy the judge, why would they need more punishment than that?

-- broctune

let's just throw out the criminal justice system and allow you to be the judge, jury and executioner because you "witnessed the whole thing." I've been around the block a time or two and have seen how inaccurate "eyewitness reports" can be.

if i have a legal right to be in a public place, i would resist being told to leave. just because a guy wears a uniform and a badge doesn't always make him (or her) right.

what kind of fan are you to come on here and blast the issue to the world? of course it's eventually going to come out. but, why do you want to be the one to do it?

-- tiderise

JPW or Joe Willie, the snake, Palmer, Linnie, Boyd, Simone... etc. All got second chances and moved on.

-- DrKnow

Both of these guys are expendable...If Saban gets rid of them then we win two ways...1) Saban sets a good discipline tone 2) We are getting stronger interest by top recruits by the day...We would have two more scholarships to go after some really strong talent

-- Mahout

As long as Upchurch and Deaderick didn't break training rules, then they shouldn't be kicked off of the team..

If Coach Bryant didn't dismiss Ken Simon from the team for firing a shotgun at the two university law school students because it wasn't against team rules, then there is certainly no reason for Saban to dismiss Upchurch or Deaderick.. If it's good enough for Coach Bryant, then it's good enough for me.

-- Dixie H

I'm embarassed for you.

[sntemp 0]

Well as long as they didn't break training rules then I guess let them play.

Good thing Osama Bin Laden isn't a halfback for Bama because he'd be playing on Saturdays in T-Town. I'm assuming he hasn't violated any of Bama's training rules yet.