CCTAU 3,350 Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 That's right, punish the guy who worked hard and planned ahead. Chardon students refuse to trade dress blues for robesSchool district says they can't appear on stage unless they're in standard graduation gear. By Ken Robinson, Newsradio WTAM 1100 Check out Ken's personality page Thursday, May 29, 2008 PFC Will McDonnell talks with Bill Wills Dad Greg McDonnell talks with Bill Wills Guardsman Tony Workman with Bob Frantz (Chardon) - A high school east of Cleveland is saying “no†to two teens who want to wear their military uniforms on stage at their high school graduation. Will McDonnell, an active duty marine, and Tony Workman, an Army National Guardsman, are graduating from Chardon High School in Geauga County. McDonnell took extra classes and met his graduation requirements last fall so he could attend a 13-week Marine Boot Camp in February. Workman went through the Army's 10-week basic training last summer. McDonnell tells Newsradio WTAM 1100 he was stunned when his dad told him the news. He says he and Workman had previously been told they would be allowed to wear their uniforms. McDonnell says Principal Doug Delong did listen to their concerns, but says he doesn't want to open the door for similar requests from members of other organizations. The two will be allowed to lead in the Honor Guard in their uniforms. But Delong says if they don't wear the robe and cap for the ceremony, they can't walk on stage with the other students on Saturday. McDonnell tells our Bill Wills they will wear their uniforms, but will simply stand at their seats when their names are called. Should the 2 military-bound Chardon High School graduates be permitted to wear their uniforms at Commencement? From the school: We believe that wearing your school’s cap and gown to receive your diploma is a show of respect to your school, fellow classmates, and for the public education you have been privileged to receive. You mean the privilege provided to you through efforts of the US military by fighting for our freedoms? Link to idiocy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,717 Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Freakin IDIOTS!!!!! This is what more and more people want in this country, and I say GO THE H@#$ AWAY! I hope they go after these stupid socialists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 13,029 Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Having people wear the academic robes that one traditionally wears when graduating from an academic institution is not disrespectful. Insisting that a different set of rules apply to oneself is arrogant and disrespectful. Grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auburn85 432 Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 But Delong says if they don't wear the robe and cap for the ceremony, they can't walk on stage with the other students on Saturday. McDonnell tells our Bill Wills they will wear their uniforms, but will simply stand at their seats when their names are called. i know it varies from state to state and school district to school district, but what about the students that are allowed to walk, despite not passing everything required to graduate? Now, in some areas, students are allowed to wear the same robes in which students actually passed everything required to graduate. They walk, but do not get a diploma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin5 20 Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Having people wear the academic robes that one traditionally wears when graduating from an academic institution is not disrespectful. Insisting that a different set of rules apply to oneself is arrogant and disrespectful. Grow up. +1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUTiger1 0 Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 If they were told earlier, as the article stated, that were going to be able to wear them, then I can see the two students being upset. If they were not told this then they should wear the traditional cap and gown. Auburn85: There were some in my class that never passed the graduation exam that got to walk, instead of a blank diploma they received a "certificate of attendance". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCTAU 3,350 Posted May 31, 2008 Author Share Posted May 31, 2008 Having people wear the academic robes that one traditionally wears when graduating from an academic institution is not disrespectful. Insisting that a different set of rules apply to oneself is arrogant and disrespectful. Grow up. +1. That's bull****. When you have completed the training required to become a member of the united States military, you SHOULD be afforded a right that is above and beyond that which others have yet to achieve. You pissant liberals treat the military as thought it's your own personal bitch to spit on any time you like. The US military should be respected and promoted any chance we civilians get. Instead, you guys take every pot shot you can at them; have since Nam. Pathetic librul bull****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 13,029 Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Having people wear the academic robes that one traditionally wears when graduating from an academic institution is not disrespectful. Insisting that a different set of rules apply to oneself is arrogant and disrespectful. Grow up. +1. That's bull****. When you have completed the training required to become a member of the united States military, you SHOULD be afforded a right that is above and beyond that which others have yet to achieve. You pissant liberals treat the military as thought it's your own personal bitch to spit on any time you like. The US military should be respected and promoted any chance we civilians get. Instead, you guys take every pot shot you can at them; have since Nam. Pathetic librul bull****. I hate it when you are off your meds. You're barely tolerable fully medicated. You have a junta mentality. Good military men and women in this country don't think they have more rights than everyone else. They don't serve to be superior. That makes their service even more admirable. Those who serve do deserve to be respected and deserve every benefit they have been promised. They deserve to be paid enough to support a family, they deserve decent healthcare and they deserve educational opportunities to help them transition back to civilian life when they are ready to do so. And this scenario is no where near on par with schools that don't allow ROTC or military recruiters. No one is being spit on. It's an academic ceremony, not a military one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aumd03 2 Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Having people wear the academic robes that one traditionally wears when graduating from an academic institution is not disrespectful. Insisting that a different set of rules apply to oneself is arrogant and disrespectful. Grow up. +1. Is this the same tradition in which military people have traditionally worn military uniforms??? I say -2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCTAU 3,350 Posted May 31, 2008 Author Share Posted May 31, 2008 Having people wear the academic robes that one traditionally wears when graduating from an academic institution is not disrespectful. Insisting that a different set of rules apply to oneself is arrogant and disrespectful. Grow up. +1. That's bull****. When you have completed the training required to become a member of the united States military, you SHOULD be afforded a right that is above and beyond that which others have yet to achieve. You pissant liberals treat the military as thought it's your own personal bitch to spit on any time you like. The US military should be respected and promoted any chance we civilians get. Instead, you guys take every pot shot you can at them; have since Nam. Pathetic librul bull****. I hate it when you are off your meds. You're barely tolerable fully medicated. You have a junta mentality. Good military men and women in this country don't think they have more rights than everyone else. They don't serve to be superior. That makes their service even more admirable. Those who serve do deserve to be respected and deserve every benefit they have been promised. They deserve to be paid enough to support a family, they deserve decent healthcare and they deserve educational opportunities to help them transition back to civilian life when they are ready to do so. And this scenario is no where near on par with schools that don't allow ROTC or military recruiters. No one is being spit on. It's an academic ceremony, not a military one. It's so wonderful to have open-minded libruls like yourself teach all the rest of us how we should just treat the kids who go above and beyond just like they are average. that's why your kind is creating an average nation. It used ot be that this country applauded and respected any military accomplishment a young person made. Now we are being run by the same people that spit on veterans when they returned from Nam. We salute you, oh wise one. <insert middle finger emoticon here> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autiger4life 3 Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 When you have completed the training required to become a member of the united States military, you SHOULD be afforded a right that is above and beyond that which others have yet to achieve. Yea, I actually agree with that. These kids did volunteer for it, and that does make it outstanding, but I also think they deserve to be recognized at every chance. When we say they deserve decent healthcare and a good education then it seems as if they are just another worker who deserves a fair shot. When someone is risking you life, they deserve more than what everyone else does. Its not why the signed up, but for a kid willing to give his life for a country, I don't see it as that big of a deal that he be allowed to wear a military uniform. I think its a poor argument to say if we let one do it we have to let all the others. You are allowed to have case by case scenarios. It's not like he is wearing his glee-club uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnaldoabru 11 Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Having people wear the academic robes that one traditionally wears when graduating from an academic institution is not disrespectful. Insisting that a different set of rules apply to oneself is arrogant and disrespectful. Grow up. +1. That's bull****. When you have completed the training required to become a member of the united States military, you SHOULD be afforded a right that is above and beyond that which others have yet to achieve. You pissant liberals treat the military as thought it's your own personal bitch to spit on any time you like. The US military should be respected and promoted any chance we civilians get. Instead, you guys take every pot shot you can at them; have since Nam. Pathetic librul bull****. Nam- there was another good war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaGrad03 0 Posted June 1, 2008 Share Posted June 1, 2008 Having people wear the academic robes that one traditionally wears when graduating from an academic institution is not disrespectful. Insisting that a different set of rules apply to oneself is arrogant and disrespectful. Grow up. Regardless of what the position is...you will take it EVERY TIME without fail...if it is a liberal one. Without fail. The fact that you are unable to think outside of the walls of overt liberalism is dissapointing. You don't look at the position at face value...you just look at "well whats the liberal side...I'll take it"... Sad sad sad. To this story, I think it's quite dissapointing that a military uniform can't be celebrated at a graduation. It's common practice for military uniforms to be accepted and embraced in formal settings. Hell if it works in a wedding, why can't it work in a graduation? We should be celebrating and recognizing young people's decision to defend their country. Not hiding their decision under a robe...just because the Academic community looks down it's nose at a military post high school decision. To be honest, they only care about patting themselves on the back at these things by mentioning all the people who have gotten scholarships. It's a sad day when a school's educators feel that someone chosing the military as their post graduate path reflects a failure on the school/educators' part somehow. But I think that's where we are as a society today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autigeremt 6,717 Posted June 2, 2008 Share Posted June 2, 2008 I sent the principal an email on Friday. He sent me a reply yesterday stating that they agreed to allow them to wear the uniform up to the part where they received their diploma. The young men led the pledge and wore their class A until just before their receiving of the diploma, where they put the cap and gown on for the walk. Just an FYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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