TitanTiger 20,708 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Official Doc: Winston Mortgage Paid Off In 2009 On April 7, Auburn Rivals website (AuburnSports.com) Publisher Jeffrey Lee reported allegations that suggested NCAA violations may have occurred during the recruitment of University of Alabama football signee Brent Calloway... ...On April 12, Jonathan Willis of the FRANKLIN (AL) COUNTY TIMES reported comments made by Winston in response to Lee's allegations: Winston and Woodruff denied all allegations that anything improper took place during Calloway's recruitment. "My mortgage has been paid off for 15 years," said Winston. An official Franklin County, Alabama, Probate Office public document may suggest otherwise... http://www.sportsbyb...f-in-2009-29634 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunInRed 16,996 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 And so it (re) begins. Let the truth prevail. Calloway first committed June 20, 2009. Peaches' mortgage was payed off September 4, 2009.@JHokanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNewby 27 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Winston obviously got his dates confused.... 15 years vs 17 months.... who is counting anyway??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunInRed 16,996 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 BTW only one piece of the puzzle is now missing before some one is potentially in some serious s***. Question becomes, who "financed" the payoff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUtiger98 24 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 So, here are the lies I have so far. Peaches says mortgage was paid off 15 years ago, but it was more like 17 months ago. Woodruff said Brent never saw the car. Cecil Hurt said Brent had the car for 3 days. Brent said Auburn sign three runningbacks, but they only signed 1. Did I miss anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 9,419 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Bad liars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunInRed 16,996 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 So, here are the lies I have so far. Peaches says mortgage was paid off 15 years ago, but it was more like 17 months ago. Woodruff said Brent never saw the car. Cecil Hurt said Brent had the car for 3 days. Brent said Auburn sign three runningbacks, but they only signed 1. Did I miss anything? That's got it ... so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUn Collierville 1 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Winston obviously got his dates confused.... 15 years vs 17 months.... who is counting anyway??? I guess months feel like years if you're living in lies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietfan 233 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 A smoking gun??? ...but can the NCAA connect it to a trigger man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creed 1,728 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Could it be a second mortgage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenEyedGirl 6 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Could it be a second mortgage? Could be. Anyone know how long Peaches has lived in this home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,708 Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 Peaches also owns 4 or 5 rental houses. Maybe someone paid off one of those he got behind on? I find it hard to believe that with an accusation of a mortgage payoff hanging out there that Peaches would pipe up to say he paid his mortgage off 15 years ago and fail to mention this one that was paid off about 18 months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietfan 233 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Could it be a second mortgage? Could be. Anyone know how long Peaches has lived in this home? Does it matter? The original Peaches quote in the SBB link is: “My mortgage has been paid off for 15 years,” said Winston. Not "My house", not "My residence". The comments posted after the SBB article are fixated on the question of whther it's his residence or his rental property. So is it okay to pay off a rental house to entice a player to your school, just not okay to pay off a residence? All he said was "mortgage"--that could include a 2nd mortgage, an office, a rental, a residence, or a vacant lot. Even if he did pay off some mortgage 15 years ago, it seems at least a little disengenious/deceptive to refer to a 15-year-old mortgage payoff but conveniently fail to mention one paid off less than two months after your son committed, particularly when it's obvious the more recent one is the one in controversy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenEyedGirl 6 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Could it be a second mortgage? Could be. Anyone know how long Peaches has lived in this home? Does it matter? The original Peaches quote in the SBB link is: “My mortgage has been paid off for 15 years,” said Winston. Not "My house", not "My residence". The comments posted after the SBB article are fixated on the question of whther it's his residence or his rental property. So is it okay to pay off a rental house to entice a player to your school, just not okay to pay off a residence? All he said was "mortgage"--that could include a 2nd mortgage, an office, a rental, a residence, or a vacant lot. Even if he did pay off some mortgage 15 years ago, it seems at least a little disengenious/deceptive to refer to a 15-year-old mortgage payoff but conveniently fail to mention one paid off less than two months after your son committed, particularly when it's obvious the more recent one is the one in controversy. I guess what I was thinking is that it appears that mortgage was only for about 9 years and would have been a pretty good chunk of change depending on how much the original mortgage was. I suppose it really doesn't matter and you are right. 15 years isn't even close to 17 months and it doesn't matter what house it was for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNewby 27 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Bad liars. They're slipping.... after all don't they have 13 Tall Tale Trophies at last count??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgr4lfe 220 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Oh, it would be sweet revenge for all of their crap over the past 8 months, to see them get toasted by the NCAA over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunInRed 16,996 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 JHMO but this "existing relationship" nonsense stuff is going to come back to bite them. Isn't it essentially already admitting guilt? The NCAA is hot on the trail of 'handlers' - if that's not what Woodruff is, please give me a better example. And if so, it may just be a matter of connecting a few remaining dots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 9,419 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 It's just an old dude who befriends high school boys. That's all. Nothing weird or sketchy about that at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AURaptor 1,137 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 It's just an old dude who befriends high school boys. That's all. Nothing weird or sketchy about that at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,708 Posted April 18, 2011 Author Share Posted April 18, 2011 JHMO but this "existing relationship" nonsense stuff is going to come back to bite them. Isn't it essentially already admitting guilt? The NCAA is hot on the trail of 'handlers' - if that's not what Woodruff is, please give me a better example. And if so, it may just be a matter of connecting a few remaining dots. If Mark Komara can be shoehorned into being considered an Auburn booster/athletics representative, then Woodruff is overqualified for the slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoic-one 1,557 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 It's just an old dude who befriends high school boys. That's all. Nothing weird or sketchy about that at all... Michael Jackson would have liked your perspective on this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtftiger 40 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 JHMO but this "existing relationship" nonsense stuff is going to come back to bite them. Isn't it essentially already admitting guilt? The NCAA is hot on the trail of 'handlers' - if that's not what Woodruff is, please give me a better example. And if so, it may just be a matter of connecting a few remaining dots. If Mark Komara can be shoehorned into being considered an Auburn booster/athletics representative, then Woodruff is overqualified for the slot. That is brilliant, Titan. Really. What if the Komara relationship was the litmus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey 16,781 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 JHMO but this "existing relationship" nonsense stuff is going to come back to bite them. Isn't it essentially already admitting guilt? The NCAA is hot on the trail of 'handlers' - if that's not what Woodruff is, please give me a better example. And if so, it may just be a matter of connecting a few remaining dots. My thinking here is that Peaches is the "handler". Brent is the fourth promising athlete that Peaches has fostered or adopted, whichever it is. The fostered/adopted distinction has been hard to verify. Admittedly, becoming a foster or adoptive parent is an innovative way of of becoming someone's handler, but there's a first for everything. You gotta' admit that Peaches has an eye for talent. Of course, if a kid is like Brent Calloway and is starting for his high school team while an 8th grader it's a rather safe bet that he'll be a prospect in four years. Woodruff, to invoke the existing relationship thing would have to have known Calloway before he became a prospect. A kid starting in the 8th grade, which is before Woodruff met Calloway, is certainly a prospect. At least that's how I rule on it. Once again, UAT is staring down the barrel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cptau 169 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I understand that "Peaches' has adopted other kids who got athletic scholarships? Who are the other kids and where did they go to school. Knowing that might uncover an interesting pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenEyedGirl 6 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Who is paying for all the legal work for these adoptions? Is Peaches wealthy enough to pay for these on his own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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