I can't speak to other's experiences, YMMV. But speaking for me and my house, after 33 years living amongst Gumps and 3 years and counting living in leg humper country, Gumps are completely insufferable and the worst of the two by far and it's not really close. If Stalin, Lenin, Mao and Marx were reincarnated and chose to form a college football team with 81 of their fellow comrades I might root for spUAT against them. But beyond that I want them to lose every game they play.