PowerOfDixieland 3,226 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Don't kill me, but curiosity got the best of me. How can a 6' 200 lb kid from the island who runs a 4.9 be a 5 star dual threat? I'm no expert, but if they continue to evolve with the spread and this kid plays any meaningful downs, they could be in trouble. He will get beat up in the SEC and his throwing mechanics are every bit as bad as Tebow's. Just don't see how he's a 5 ... call me a (crimson) hater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cole256 17,084 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 What do the island have to do with anything? But maybe he had a couple of awesome games at the right time when evaluators were there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerOfDixieland 3,226 Posted February 1, 2017 Author Share Posted February 1, 2017 Seriously? How much overall football talent is there in Hawai'i? Same dilemma with a kid who comes from a smaller school in the south, say a Sammie Coates, and how difficult it is to assess the talent because of who they're going against. Maybe the evaluators just wanted to justify going to see him play in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle 9,064 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 46 minutes ago, PowerOfDixieland said: Don't kill me, but curiosity got the best of me. How can a 6' 200 lb kid from the island who runs a 4.9 be a 5 star dual threat? I'm no expert, but if they continue to evolve with the spread and this kid plays any meaningful downs, they could be in trouble. He will get beat up in the SEC and his throwing mechanics are every bit as bad as Tebow's. Just don't see how he's a 5 ... call me a (crimson) hater. Those mechanics really hurt Tim Tebow at Florida Also, since when is 6' 200 lb small for a true freshman? I'm not saying he deserves to be the #1 DT QB, I really don't know, but you are making a lot of assumptions. Tajh Boyd was 6'0" 205 coming out of H.S. and ran a 4.84 at the combine. He was an absolute nightmare to play against in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionheartkc 6,150 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Kid may be a non-factor anyway... we still don't know what Sark is going to do to the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle 9,064 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Comparing Alabama to Hawaii....man, never thought I'd hear someone make that comparison haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravejd 3,270 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 2 hours ago, PowerOfDixieland said: Don't kill me, but curiosity got the best of me. How can a 6' 200 lb kid from the island who runs a 4.9 be a 5 star dual threat? I'm no expert, but if they continue to evolve with the spread and this kid plays any meaningful downs, they could be in trouble. He will get beat up in the SEC and his throwing mechanics are every bit as bad as Tebow's. Just don't see how he's a 5 ... call me a (crimson) hater. If those stats are accurate then i would be curious as well as to what the hype is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keesler 5,924 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I don't know about the hype the recruiting sites are giving this guy and the 5* ratings, but talent evaluation is one of the strong points of uat's program. So, one would assume there's some substance to him. How good is Sark at developing QBs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metafour 4,969 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 He may challenge for the starting job next year. He's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augolf1716 21,202 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 15 minutes ago, metafour said: He may challenge for the starting job next year. He's good. yep kid is good enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDEKC 187 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 On 2/1/2017 at 1:20 PM, keesler said: I don't know about the hype the recruiting sites are giving this guy and the 5* ratings, but talent evaluation is one of the strong points of uat's program. So, one would assume there's some substance to him. How good is Sark at developing QBs? I'd say with their recent QB track record they aren't as good evaluating QB talent as the other positions. They've had 4-5* QBs every year and needed a true freshman to play average football this year as their best option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeslider 6 269 Posted February 2, 2017 Share Posted February 2, 2017 they do have a pretty lousy developmental record with Qbs recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auskip 196 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 On February 1, 2017 at 0:14 PM, Barnacle said: Comparing Alabama to Hawaii....man, never thought I'd hear someone make that comparison haha. You don't see how similar they are? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keesler 5,924 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 19 hours ago, WDEKC said: I'd say with their recent QB track record they aren't as good evaluating QB talent as the other positions. They've had 4-5* QBs every year and needed a true freshman to play average football this year as their best option. I guess what I was trying to say is that they've done alright evaluating talent, over all talent at every position. When your team has only lost 5 SEC games in 5 years with the likes of McELroy/McCarron/Blake Sims/Coker/Hurts, then your folks are doing a pretty good job of evaluating talent and putting a winning product on the field. Who knows how this highly rated QB from the islands will pan out? They still have Hurts to fall back on and he helped get them to 14 wins as a frosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meh130 1,043 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 I think Tua Tagovailoa was rated so high in part due to the fact the raters missed Marcus Mariota, in part because the raters don't put any effort into Hawaii, so they felt they needed to pay attention to Hawaii prospects. The raters get more grief for missing a prospect than overrating one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowebb11 9,328 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 On 2/3/2017 at 10:45 AM, keesler said: I guess what I was trying to say is that they've done alright evaluating talent, over all talent at every position. When your team has only lost 5 SEC games in 5 years with the likes of McELroy/McCarron/Blake Sims/Coker/Hurts, then your folks are doing a pretty good job of evaluating talent and putting a winning product on the field. Who knows how this highly rated QB from the islands will pan out? They still have Hurts to fall back on and he helped get them to 14 wins as a frosh. Exactly. First, Tua will play QB with a top defense that constantly creates turnovers and scores on a regular basis. Like other BAMA QBs, he will rarely play from behind. He will be protected by multiple future NFL linemen and hand off to future NFL tailbacks, while throwing to future NFL receivers. Jalen Hurts is a slightly better than average QB made into a Heisman contender for all the reasons above. I don't like it either, but it's the way things are right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlaskanFAN 1,666 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Just like Miami with Steve Walsh, Ken Dorsey, Craig Erikson and Gino Torreta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwillMac6 20,685 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 13 minutes ago, AlaskanFAN said: Just like Miami with Steve Walsh, Ken Dorsey, Craig Erikson and Gino Torreta great comp. About the same type of character on both teams as well...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarTim 3,456 Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Actually, The U has extremely high character in comparison...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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