SKIPPER_01 99 Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, Tiger said: We are melting really hard after a 1 point loss to a current top 10 team. It's never quite as bad as it seems nor is it quite as good as it seems under Gus. Even with all of Gus' weak points, and all the valid points of contention people have with him, barring Gus losing the team I think we have a shot to win 10 games still with some improvement/adjustments. That is the positive me. I'm trying not to think about how TAMU has a better coach than us for the forseeable future making our road to win the division that much harder. Or that we can't recruit OL. Or develop the studs we get at WR. Or teach a QB seemingly anything that they didn't already know before they got here. Or that we can't seem to beat Ed Orgeron due to him literally outcoaching Gus in the only times they've faced off. At this point Gus has a losing record against Saban, Smart, Ed O, and Jimbo. Those are the 4 teams I see giving us major fits moving forward unfortunately. I'm having a schitzo Friday, I know...I know... And players leaving. Don't forget about players leaving. And lack of focus. Gus's teams exhibit an unrivaled ability to blow double digit leads. 13 UGA/13 Natty/14 IB/LSU 17 & 18. Tega came out and said it in the press conference, "We relaxed when we got the lead." I mean what in the actual #&$*$¥@,@£#;#£$,@...? That attitude comes directly from coaching. I hope Gus can fix these issues. We have no killer instinct; I mean, when we play good teams that adjust and don't quit. It's almost like it surprises Gus and co. when this happens. Losing by one point to LSU is not a big deal at all in a vacuum. Auburn has real issues that they need to get a handle on. Only people that can do that is Gus/coaches/Jarret. We need a freaking leader on offense. We got nodda. Melt [ON] Off I'm sorry guys. I'm just pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredst 9,064 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 3 hours ago, aubaseball said: They were close in style but not in ability. Baker was quick on his feet and faster. He also , in my opinion, had way more arm strength SW bong skills off the charts though..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUgrad97 50 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 4 hours ago, DAG said: Petrino isn’t half the coach that Gus is, but he knows how to coach up QBs. I put Gus in this light. Wow. Interesting view. Can you expand on the coaching advantages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
around4ever 4,139 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 The answer is yes, Gus struggles with developing players. I have said that for years. Name a skill position player who was substantially better when he left than when he arrived. It's not all on Gus but he is ultimately responsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 33,997 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, AUgrad97 said: Wow. Interesting view. Can you expand on the coaching advantages? What do you mean? I don’t have the intricacies of why Petrino seems to be a better QB coach than Gus but if you look at Petrino track record , his QBs tend to produce at a much higher level : Jake Plummer Brian Brohm Ryan Mallet Tyler Wilson Lamar Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger 8,829 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, SKIPPER_01 said: And players leaving. Don't forget about players leaving. And lack of focus. Gus's teams exhibit an unrivaled ability to blow double digit leads. 13 UGA/13 Natty/14 IB/LSU 17 & 18. Tega came out and said it in the press conference, "We relaxed when we got the lead." I mean what in the actual #&$*$¥@,@£#;#£$,@...? That attitude comes directly from coaching. I hope Gus can fix these issues. We have no killer instinct; I mean, when we play good teams that adjust and don't quit. It's almost like it surprises Gus and co. when this happens. Losing by one point to LSU is not a big deal at all in a vacuum. Auburn has real issues that they need to get a handle on. Only people that can do that is Gus/coaches/Jarret. We need a freaking leader on offense. We got nodda. Melt [ON] Off I'm sorry guys. I'm just pissed. Well...You aren't wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger 8,829 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, DAG said: What do you mean? I don’t have the intricacies of why Petrino seems to be a better QB coach than Gus but if you look at Petrino track record , his QBs tend to produce at a much higher level : Jake Plummer Brian Brohm Ryan Mallet Tyler Wilson Lamar Jackson I don't even think its debatable on Petrino vs Gus in the QB coaching/development department. At all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUght2win 6,856 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 I hold out hope that Gus can bring in a quarterback developer as an OC or at least a position coach. Here's a bizarre stat that surely only Auburn can boast: the last QB AU signed out of high school that went on to be a legitimate, multi-year starter was Brandon Cox. It's been 11 years since he suited up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUgrad97 50 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 31 minutes ago, DAG said: What do you mean? I don’t have the intricacies of why Petrino seems to be a better QB coach than Gus but if you look at Petrino track record , his QBs tend to produce at a much higher level : Jake Plummer Brian Brohm Ryan Mallet Tyler Wilson Lamar Jackson My comment was centered on the notion that CGM was twice the coach CBP is. I found that observation to be curious and was interested in why you felt Gus was overall a much better coach. I have always felt Petrino was a very good coach but made poor moral and ethical decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 33,997 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 minute ago, AUgrad97 said: My comment was centered on the notion that CGM was twice the coach CBP is. I found that observation to be curious and was interested in why you felt Gus was overall a much better coach. I have always felt Petrino was a very good coach but made poor moral and ethical decisions. Petrino is not a very good recruiter for one. He tends to prioritize on one aspect and not another. For example, he is part of the reason Arkansas was devoid of talent in his absence. He highlighted skill players, but was abysmal in identifying needs such as on the defensive side and between the trenches. We are seeing this once again in UL right now. Also, the couple of years Arkansas offense went off..those players were home grown Arkansas boys. Ryan Mallett , the warren 5 , joe Adams..all studs who fell in his lap. I also think he does a bad job in finding quality assistants. Also like you said, he seemed devoid of character. It is hard to lead and build a foundation when you don’t have an infustructure to stand on. For example, he was known as a flight risk coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenlee36 1,654 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 What happened to SW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keesler 5,926 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, AUght2win said: I hold out hope that Gus can bring in a quarterback developer as an OC or at least a position coach. Here's a bizarre stat that surely only Auburn can boast: the last QB AU signed out of high school that went on to be a legitimate, multi-year starter was Brandon Cox. It's been 11 years since he suited up. Hold out hope? Every NCAA program just added a coach to their staff this year, Gus had a prime opportunity to add a QB position coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keesler 5,926 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 29 minutes ago, sevenlee36 said: What happened to SW? He loved the "college" life and live it to it's fullest. Lawd how I miss it! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUght2win 6,856 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 42 minutes ago, keesler said: Hold out hope? Every NCAA program just added a coach to their staff this year, Gus had a prime opportunity to add a QB position coach. Well what else can I do? I'm not a donor so I can't lobby to see him fired. But even if I was, I wouldn't. I don't want to see Gus gone because I think, despite his obvious shortcomings, he's inarguably a top 10 head coach (currently). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_M4_AU 7,874 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 18 hours ago, keesler said: Hold out hope? Every NCAA program just added a coach to their staff this year, Gus had a prime opportunity to add a QB position coach. Remember it was just last year Gus “allowed” the QBs to have a personal coach. Gus has wanted to have complete control of his QBs which might be the reason he hasn’t been able to get quality QBs on campus straight out of HS. Baby steps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburn4ever 1,266 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 Is Malzahn going to play Malik Willis anymore? How is Joey Gatewood's thumb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cole256 17,084 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 On 9/21/2018 at 9:53 AM, Win4AU said: People forget how fast Sean was. He broke off a couple of 40+ yard runs in his time. ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cole256 17,084 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 The fact someone said the NFL loves our wr blocking ability just about sums up how good we've been developing skill positions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randman5000 4,229 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 1 hour ago, cole256 said: The fact someone said the NFL loves our wr blocking ability just about sums up how good we've been developing skill positions I know. How ironic is that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auburn Kev 1,653 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 1 hour ago, cole256 said: The fact someone said the NFL loves our wr blocking ability just about sums up how good we've been developing skill positions Yes, Auburn wide receivers are so loved by the NFL, for their blocking ability, that we have one on an active roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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