Great Barrington Declaration

[SLAG-91 1,483]

Covid: Focused protection approach

This part stood out to me, and I agree with it 100%

"Those who are not vulnerable should immediately be allowed to resume life as normal. Simple hygiene measures, such as hand washing and staying home when sick should be practiced by everyone to reduce the herd immunity threshold. Schools and universities should be open for in-person teaching. Extracurricular activities, such as sports, should be resumed. Young low-risk adults should work normally, rather than from home. Restaurants and other businesses should open. Arts, music, sport and other cultural activities should resume. People who are more at risk may participate if they wish, while society as a whole enjoys the protection conferred upon the vulnerable by those who have built up herd immunity."

...and this member of the congregation said "Amen." 

I know better than to think anything like this will happen, because common sense doesn't pay the bills or get people elected, but it is a breath of fresh air.

[AUDub 11,182]

So Sweden's model.

Where it didn't work. 

OK.

[SLAG-91 1,483]

Since it's the day for thread bumps.

Sweden got unfairly maligned...

Don't dare go against the narrative...

Netherlands going full stupid with lockdowns again...🙄

[AU9377 5,035]

Most people's lives returned to normal or near normal long ago.  That doesn't mean that people should be stupid.

[I_M4_AU 7,987]

10 hours ago, AU9377 said:

Most people's lives returned to normal or near normal long ago.  That doesn't mean that people should be stupid.

Absolutely.  The New York Governor and the city mayor are absolutely stupid for the restrictions they have put on their subjects citizens.  Fauci recommends some stringent rules for Christmas gatherings:

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/06/fauci-how-to-decide-if-holiday-parties-are-covid-safe-with-omicron.html

This for the Omicron variant that has only one attributed death in the world as of yesterday.  Even Fauci admits this variant has mild symptoms, but be afraid, be very afraid and stupid.

[alexava 6,973]

It’s just going to do what it is going to do. Every state, city has had their spikes regardless of the mitigation efforts. That should be clear by now. 

[SaltyTiger 7,859]

15 hours ago, AU9377 said:

Most people's lives returned to normal or near normal long ago.  That doesn't mean that people should be stupid.

Yep, still gotta use caution around those dang chargers though.

[SLAG-91 1,483]

Doesn't wear a helmet while motorcycling, but he's got his mask on, so he's safe...🙄

There's just too much idiocy in this picture to fathom.

[CoffeeTiger 5,169]

14 hours ago, SLAG-91 said:

Doesn't wear a helmet while motorcycling, but he's got his mask on, so he's safe...🙄

There's just too much idiocy in this picture to fathom.

 

My interpretation would be he has the mask because he's wanting to go into a store or location that may require one, while no store would require a helmet. 

 

He's 100% stupid for not wearing a helmet though. 

[SaltyTiger 7,859]

9 minutes ago, CoffeeTiger said:

 

My interpretation would be he has the mask because he's wanting to go into a store or location that may require one, while no store would require a helmet. 

 

He's 100% stupid for not wearing a helmet though. 

Or in Florida maybe? 21 plus and insurance no helmet requirement. Guess your head gets harder with age in Florida.

[McLoofus 35,182]

1 hour ago, CoffeeTiger said:

 

My interpretation would be he has the mask because he's wanting to go into a store or location that may require one, while no store would require a helmet. 

 

He's 100% stupid for not wearing a helmet though. 

Or he just forgot to take it off.

It's a completely meaningless picture and it's absurd that someone would post it as if it makes some kind of point. It's even more absurd to see the support it received via reactions clicked.

Make no mistake about it, folks. Even if that dude on the motorcycle made a conscious decision to wear a mask but not a helmet while riding his motorcycle- which he isn't even doing in the picture!- he doesn't look nearly as stupid as you do with your crusade. Jesus Christ, the misplaced priorities with you people. 

[wdefromtx 3,159]

16 hours ago, SLAG-91 said:

Doesn't wear a helmet while motorcycling, but he's got his mask on, so he's safe...🙄

There's just too much idiocy in this picture to fathom.

So much idiocy defending this guy and making excuses for wearing a mask while riding a motorcycle. Clearly he isn’t about to go into a store, unless he’s trying to catch a sale on some laminate flooring next door. Which I doubt. The fact that some on here won’t call a spade a spade is laughable. This guy is an idiot, no helmet, wearing a mask while riding, and let’s not forget to mention the fact it is raining. That part isn’t his fault, it might have been sunny when he left home. But my guess is he got caught in the rain and was trying to get to somewhere covered…not about to go into a store. lol 

[wdefromtx 3,159]

@icanthearyou

[SLAG-91 1,483]

Anyone else surprised by this?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/fauci-collins-emails-great-barrington-declaration-covid-pandemic-lockdown-11640129116?mod=opinion_lead_pos3

Nah, me either.

[CoffeeTiger 5,169]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-dr-johnny-bananas-and-dr-person-fakename-among-medical-signatories-on-herd-immunity-open-letter-12099947 

[SLAG-91 1,483]

31 minutes ago, CoffeeTiger said:

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-dr-johnny-bananas-and-dr-person-fakename-among-medical-signatories-on-herd-immunity-open-letter-12099947 

Irrelevant and not germane to the gist of the GBD itself. Care to try to defend the attacks against it on your own?

[CoffeeTiger 5,169]

38 minutes ago, SLAG-91 said:

Irrelevant and not germane to the gist of the GBD itself. Care to try to defend the attacks against it on your own?

The GBR is just a publicity stunt. It's supported by the American Institute for Economic Research which is a wacky Libertarian outfit that's never done any kind of worthwhile research or contributions and who primarily focuses on Climate Change denialism until it decided to jump into the covid business. 

 

Other than that, its just typical libertarian s*** that's not backed up by science or studies. 

-hands off government cause that's libertarians answer to everything no matter what. 

-spread it to all the young for  mass immunity (which studies show covid immunity from infections isn't necessarily long lasting and you'll still be susceptible to future strains). 

- just ensure special protection for the vulnerable (which we're already trying to do now and it doesn't work like that. We couldn't keep covid out of the damn white house even with masks and lockdowns, we sure wont keep it from the vulnerable population by living life as normal and getting "herd immunity" 

- Other than the million online public signatures it claims to have and a handful of doctors who support it, the broad, worldwide, scientific community seems to think it's a rubbish proposal. 

 

 

Edited December 22, 2021 by CoffeeTiger

[SLAG-91 1,483]

On 10/5/2020 at 11:46 PM, AUDub said:

So Sweden's model.

Where it didn't work. 

OK.

https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/sweden-has-the-lowest-excess-mortality-rate-after-the-pandemic-despite-refusing-to-lock-down/news-story/df50001366bb09b6a20421520cbfbf53

[AUDub 11,182]

13 hours ago, SLAG-91 said:

https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/sweden-has-the-lowest-excess-mortality-rate-after-the-pandemic-despite-refusing-to-lock-down/news-story/df50001366bb09b6a20421520cbfbf53

Looks like a cherry picked study that will get massively promoted by the Murdoch media while ignoring the vast majority of other studies that indicate the exact opposite.

Compare Sweden to other Scandinavian countries that did lock down. 

[AUDub 11,182]

It should also be noted that the source for that article was not a study. It was a blog post. This one. 

https://metatron.substack.com/p/another-definitive-guide-to-excess

and he fudged the numbers. 

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Oh no! It looks like I got it wrong!! Sweden is not the best performer in Europe in terms of overall excess deaths (this time up to 28-Aug-22).

 

[CoffeeTiger 5,169]

13 hours ago, SLAG-91 said:

https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/sweden-has-the-lowest-excess-mortality-rate-after-the-pandemic-despite-refusing-to-lock-down/news-story/df50001366bb09b6a20421520cbfbf53

https://jogh.org/2022/jogh-12-05017  From Aug. 2022

 

Conclusions

There was no trade-off between public health policy and economy during the COVID-19 pandemic in the Nordic region. Sweden’s relaxed and delayed COVID-19 health policy response did not benefit the economy in the short term, while leading to disproportionate COVID-19 hospitalizations and mortality.

Edited December 28, 2022 by CoffeeTiger

[homersapien 11,440]

On 12/28/2022 at 10:16 AM, CoffeeTiger said:

https://jogh.org/2022/jogh-12-05017  From Aug. 2022

 

Conclusions

There was no trade-off between public health policy and economy during the COVID-19 pandemic in the Nordic region. Sweden’s relaxed and delayed COVID-19 health policy response did not benefit the economy in the short term, while leading to disproportionate COVID-19 hospitalizations and mortality.

Data?   We don't need no stinkin data!  (Especially if the actual statistics are included!)

We live in a political, fact-free world.  To hell with science, we've got the internet. 

 

Edited December 29, 2022 by homersapien