Could someone name the year Bear Bryant claimed the NC he didn't earn?

[Auburn Seer 0]

Tired, sorry no specifics.

I know yall know more about the legitmacy of Alabama's fake championships. Could you give me the quick rundown?

[Auburn Seer 0]

... Or just a link to a comprehensive look at their "12" NCs?

[TheDrewYouKnew 3]

http://www.geocities.com/bafflemaster/nc.htm

1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC? Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn't exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another incredible retroactive NC.

From College Football Data Warehouse

The Associated Press Poll has been active since 1936. The AP took their final poll prior to bowl games from 1936 - 1964 and in 1966 and 1967. They took their final poll after the bowl games in 1965 and from 1968 - Current.

Links:

History of Polls

Polling Systems

1926 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records! Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it!

1930 National Championship- The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre Dame for NC this year. This was the only one to award it to Bama. Notre Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system! He (an individual, not an organization) did his in 1933!

1934 National Championship- Alabama says they share this with two other teams. The awarders are Dunkel, Williamson, and Football Thesaurus. Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first appeared in 1946!

1941 National Championship- This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama finished 3rd in the SEC that year.

1961 National Championship- Finally a legitimate NC. One poll didn't give it to Bama though.

1964 National Championship- While the AP did award the NC to Bama (10-1-0), Arkansas had the better record, 11-0. Alabama played Texas in their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl.

1965 National Championship- The AP gave this to Bama. That year there were three teams with better records than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St 10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0.

1973 National Championship- AP puts Bama 4th after their bowl game loss. Bama claims a NC from the UPI poll that was taken before they met Notre Dame in the bowl game and lost. There were 3 teams with better records than Bama that year. The embarrassment of naming Alabama number one caused the UPI to name champions after bowl games.

1978 National Championship- AP gives this to Alabama(11-1-0) even though USC (12-1-0) had the better record Guess who Alabama lost to that year? USC!!!!!!!!!. UPI gave the NC to USC.

1979 National Championship- Their second legitimate NC. Their first Unanimous NC.

1992 National Championship- Their third legitimate NC. Their second Unanimous NC.

You can see why people ridicule Bama fans when they talk about 12 NCs. The early ones were awarded by individuals years after the games were played. These weren't consensus polls but NCs awarded by people that had their own formula for determining champions. Some NCs where given before bowl games that Bama lost. Using Alabama logic, Auburn could claim four national championships. But when Bammers brag they like to say they have twelve and Auburn has one. How silly. The NCAA recognizes 6 NCs for Bama and there are only two NCs that Bama has unanimously. You can't find an Auburn site claiming four national championships but there are plenty Bama sites claiming twelve.

Debunking the Alabama National Championship myths.

[DKW 86 7,441]

41, 73, and 78 are the most bogus of the claims. BTW, ESPN during the Indy Bowl recognized Bama with only 7.

[lca408 366]

Interesting that they claim a NC when they are ranked #1 in the nation while they still have games to play. How many times have we been ranked #1 during the season. I know at least twice, if not three times in the last 30 years. 1984, 1985 I believe. Maybe in 1971?

Absurd? Yes absolutely. But no more absurd than this bammer crap.

Ryan

[Auburn Seer 0]

Thanks much, Drew.

[Proud Tiger 4,261]

They like to jab us about rings for NCs we "claim." I wonder how many MNC rings they have?

[WeagleDMS 0]

Who cares?

[SouthLink02 8]

41, 73, and 78 are the most bogus of the claims. BTW, ESPN during the Indy Bowl recognized Bama with only 7.

78...eh...not too bad

But 1973? They lost to ND in their bowl and ND finished undefeated

Just don't understand WHY people even thought it was remotely a good idea to crown the champ BEFORE the game...and how polls these days that give championships in previous years would award the champ to someone who lost the bowl game to an undefeated team.

[DKW 86 7,441]

In 78, they got massacred in Bham by It was one of the most physical whippings I have ever seen put on Alabama. The score might have been 21-7, but Bama was totally pushed and shoved all over that field all day long. It was I believe 21-0 halftime.

To claim a MNC in 1978 means that you have to over look one of the worst beatings you ever took and drink the kool-aid too. Later on, lost to Arizona when they slept walked into a game they should have won by 20+.

That still does not mitigate getting hammered at home by though. Straight up NO ONE can say that Bama was even in the same class as the 1978 team that beat them senseless in Bham. So why even try to claim a MNC when you KNOW and had PROVEN there was indeed a better team.