Auburn2Eugene

Well said... especially the unlearn bad habits part I liked this post up until the last part, lol. At least you guys can see where I'm coming from.

Is anyone else worried about us signing these Nigerian kids who have played no more than 2 years of football? I mean even with how ultra talented these kids are, with only a couple years playing football, are they not project kids? I mean in Tega, we signed a 4* DE everyone wanted. It took a couple years for him to even get on the field and that was at an entirely different position. Kind of the same thing with Sammons. He was recruited by everyone and their brothers, but at DE. We recruited him as an OL. I get these kids have immense potential, but they are extremely inexperienced. I trust our coaching staff to coach them up, it took our coaches a minute (a few years) to get things going, but I now trust they can get them there. But to me it just seems risky putting so much recruitng time, effort, and resources into kids who have almost no experience, regardless of potential. Am I just crazy for thinking this way or do others share this concern?

Great pickup

So I take it his 4.52 speed listed in the OP is wrong? Reading through this thread seeing him being compared to Noel Devine. Devine has a reported 40 time of 4.26 seconds which is significantly faster than 4.52. But seeing as he is an amazing track runner, I have a hard time seeing him at 4.5. I know 40 times aren't a playing speed, and they don't matter that much, but they do give a good idea of playing speed. And if he is comparable to Devine, no way 4.5 is correct. 4.2 is Tim Carter fast. It's crazy those .3 seconds make up THAT big of a difference, but it does.

Best and favorite are two entirely different things. As far as best, I'd say Fullwood, Cribbs, Brooks, Rudi, and Bostic Favorites I'd say Cadillac, Stephen Davis, Ben Tate, Rudi, and Lectron Williams (simply because of his name.) Or if you don't count Lectron because I really only liked his name, #5 for me would be a tie between Bostic, Ronnie Brown, Mario Fannin, or Irons

@StatTiger, amazing breakdown as usual. I have a question. How did you get so good at breaking down film? Former player at the college level? Either way, wonderful work as always!

You DO realize Pat Dye did that once. One single time, and that coincidentally the only time Auburn has ever gotten back to back 10 win seasons. In all of our history of playing football, being the 12th winningest program in NCAA football history, 10 wins back to back has happened a grand total of 1 time. This is EXACTLY what I feel. If he can stop growing taller, we can have him as a possible 2k all purpose yard guy. It seems like he could easily put up 1300 yards on the ground and 700 through the air. I think this season with KJ can show Joiner a LOT. If we have KJ put up a bunch of receiving yards, Joiner will see what he could do in this offense. Even with KJ being RB2. E, are you saying you dont see Joiner helpingus win football games? You not see him as a gamer? He looks like he could be lethal in our offense.

Yeah, I get that. But at the same time don't a lot of 3* players commit early, so they are assured a spot in the class? I don't follow recruiting ultra heavily, so I don't know for sure. I don't understand how we can have guys like Payton Barber and Malik Miller and not want this guy. He looks like he could do some real damage in our offense. Especially since our new OC likes throwing to RBs

Boo. This kid deserves to be a 4*. That being said, I can't believe he is going to wait until signing day. That's pretty uncommon for 3*s isn't it?

Then I dunno. But comparing his film to KJ, KJ was slashing about out running everything on the field. Granted it's not the same level of competition, but watch his film. It's not uncommon for him to be caught from behind. Even on the very first run of his highlights... True its a long TD run, but if the play is 5 yards longer, he doesn't score. At least 2 DBs catch up to him. That my friend is not 4.4 game speed unless those DBs are playing with 4.20 game speed. Again, NOT knocking him. I want him. As much as anyone in the class. He could be GREAT here.

Maybe in shorts on artificial turf with hurricane force winds at his back. But he does not have THAT much game speed. Unless those DBs are Usain Bolt. I'm not knocking the kid... At all. Like I said in my original post, I hope we make this kid priority 1.

I really hope we can get this guy. His running style with those big long strides reminds me of Stephen Davis. He doesn't have break away speed. It's disappointing to see him get run down from behind a few times... Against highschool competition... But he has a natural running style and catches the ball apparently extremely well. I truly hope we make this kid priority 1

Yesterday I was upset with this hire. I didn't like the fact that we hired someone who had already worked for Gus. I made a few comments immediately following the hire (knee jerk reaction to disappointment.) And then I left all things Auburn yesterday, and started looking how the national media and my local media reacted to the hire. Especially since I live in Pac12 land. Now my opinion on this hire has changed. I don't know that Lindsey will excel at Auburn, but of the people mentioned, there are only a couple others who I preferred more. But there could of been worse hires. The guy from NC State would of been a terrible hire. Helfrich also would of been a terrible hire. I didn't like the idea of a former Auburn OC returning, and I certainly didn't like the idea of our former RB coach either. So while isn't the hire I wanted, it's apparently the one Gus wanted all along. I had been saying we shouldn't hamstring our coach with the OC hire. We got who Gus wanted. Is it a good hire? Absolutely. Is it the wow hire many of us were looking for? No, but it certainly is better than some would of been. One thing is for certain, this hire will make or break Gus. I for one, hope it makes him. I hope he has learned and is actually handing over the reigns. We will see... Guys, we are stacked. We have the QB we need and an excellent backup now (whichever one wins the job.) We have a NFL RB, and the group of pure talent WRs. All we need is to revamp the offense, not start a new. We have everything we need next season. We have a real shot at a 10+ win season.

Yeah talent has nothing to do with that. It's all coaching... Seems legit.

Cool story bro. Keep on towing the company line and trying to convince everyone this is a great hire. It's all rainbows and unicorns huh

There is a difference in being upset with a lackluster hire when we were told by everyone to expect a wow hire. And there is no way we win 7 next season. We are LOADED. but please do continue towing the AUFamily line and try to morph this into an excellent hire.

Because he is. We can pretend he isn't all we want... And no DC isn't the same. Gus ran him off. This is another guy who Gus can control. I just don't see how Lindsey has sufficient experience but Kendall didn't. This guy is another high school coach. Or didn't you read his bio. Oh and another thing, this is a hire that keeps Kodi Burns. Being as Lindsey had hired Kodi to be his RB coach as ASU, there is no chance Kodi is left without a job.... Just the safe choice all the way around... Um... Putting those numbers up at Southern Mississippi is the the same as the SEC, but go ahead and pump that sunshine.

Alright... Who is going to start the coaching search thread? Gus probably just fired himself. I'm SO glad we were able to pull someone out of the CGM tree. Thank goodness it's not another yes man (I would be using yellow font but I don't know how...)

Let's hope so. Because if they do... This young man could be deadly... And be unlike any TE we have had in the modern era... Or he could not transition to the SEC... But i sure hope he does!

I really hope he is all he was sold to be. I think he starts from day 1, but even if he doesn't, we will be infinitely better at QB next season. Regardless of who is QB1 there won't be much drop off between he and QB2...unlike this season. This is great news. It seems like forever since we have been in that situation. I can name one time I've seen it happen. In 2012 Bryan Bennett was assumed to become the starter at Oregon. He was a fan favorite. Then there was some unknown kid named Marcus Mariota stepped up and looked like a man among boys. He made Bennett look like Jon Wallace going against Cam in the LSU game. It was a Spring performance unlike anything I've ever seen. Stidham could walk out there and just go nuts, and be heads and shoulders better than everyone else. Or not... It can happen...

Happy belated birthday! Because Sean and KJ are so much bigger? We look tiny compared to other teams... Like the other one in the state, LSU, Arkansas, Georgia... Most of our players are (or seem on tv) tiny compared to those other schools. Russell learned from Yox. We haven't had real change of our S&C program in over 2 decades.

That was a great read. Thanks.

Totally different skill sets. One is primarily a blocker. What makes this kid dangerous is his catching ability and the miss match he would create with LBs trying to cover him. That's why I said in one of my other posts that I hope we don't try to turn him into Jay Prosch. This kid isn't being recruited because of his elite blocking ability. If we are planning to use him as a FB/TE, I don't see him being much more than a contributer. If we properly utilize him, he COULD be a superstar. I am as excited about the possibility this guy presents as I am about JS. Your post with the original tweet did. But I don't see it posted on my quote to you. Is this a setting that I need to change?

Should of read through this before I commented Great call We really are. I've seen quite a few stadiums throughout the country. We had top notch facilities in the 90s, but haven't made much progress since. And with things like this, it's like walking up down going escalators. There is no standing still. You are either moving forward or falling behind. To most big time recruits, they HAVE to sell those extra things. Because 9 months of the year it's always raining and about 40°. Couldn't of said it better myself. Hopefully the new president will care about athletics a bit more than our outgoing president, and will want their own guy running that side of things. Too bad the image didn't post. How many guys will we have wanting #3 next season? SC posts a pic of him wearing #3. JS does the same. And NCM is currently wearing #3. That's gonna get interesting.

Awesome. If we take advantage of his skill set and don't try to transform him into Jay Prosch, he could be a monster mismatch against opposing LBs