SaltyTiger 7,837 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randman5000 4,229 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 And take Gus with you!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Eye 7 2,535 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 3 hours ago, GwillMac6 said: ughhhhhhhhhhhhh means he will still be involved. I think that means he will be able to keep his title till a new AD is hired but his job duties sop today. He will only be there for show. I am not happy he chose to push it as far as he did but in the end he saw there was no hope and ended it. So let’s all move on and leave JJ in peace. Hopefully he will have time to reflect on his mistakes and some day make an honest request for forgiveness from the AU family. For now we need to concentrate on moving forward and riding our school from other roadblocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,506 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 11 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said: care to share the wrangling and dragging of heels by Jay and his representatives with us Titan? Negotiating to the nth degree for all sorts of ongoing perks (tickets, lifetime skybox at JH, etc) and whatnot, making veiled threats if he didn't get it, working/leaning on/angling with "his" people trying to marshall support to retain his job. It has become readily apparent to many that Jay is all about doing what's right for Jay rather than what's right for Auburn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,837 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, TitanTiger said: Negotiating to the nth degree for all sorts of ongoing perks (tickets, lifetime skybox at JH, etc) and whatnot, making veiled threats if he didn't get it, working/leaning on/angling with "his" people trying to marshall support to retain his job. It has become readily apparent to many that Jay is all about doing what's right for Jay rather than what's right for Auburn. sounds like you have been in on the negotiations titan. sure you should be saying this on a message board. perhaps.. a link with all maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belmontmom09@yahoo.com 1 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Finally. I hate to see anyone lose their job but JJ's time at Auburn has played it's time out & then some. I wish him well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strychnine 1,803 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 28 minutes ago, TitanTiger said: Negotiating to the nth degree for all sorts of ongoing perks (tickets, lifetime skybox at JH, etc) and whatnot, making veiled threats if he didn't get it, working/leaning on/angling with "his" people trying to marshall support to retain his job. It has become readily apparent to many that Jay is all about doing what's right for Jay rather than what's right for Auburn. After making him a multi-millionaire, Auburn should have provided a lifetime skybox in his severance package. A skybox with windows blacked out, and signal jammers surrounding it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburn4ever 1,266 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I think UAT needs to hire Jay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strychnine 1,803 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 16 minutes ago, belmontmom09@yahoo.com said: Finally. I hate to see anyone lose their job but JJ's time at Auburn has played it's time out & then some. I wish him well... I have little sympathy. All it takes for me to lose my job is a database being down for a few hours, for reasons that can be completely unrelated to anything I did. My salary is not in excess of $500,000, and no one would mourn my departure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Eye 7 2,535 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Strychnine said: I have little sympathy. All it takes for me to lose my job is a database being down for a few hours, for reasons that can be completely unrelated to anything I did. My salary is not in excess of $500,000, and no one would mourn my departure. Yea you IT guys are at the mercy of the web. If it’s down for 30 minutes you don’t have to fear being terminated, you have to pray that the workers don’t show up to burn your office down while your still in it. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AU64 10,122 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, Strychnine said: I have little sympathy. All it takes for me to lose my job is a database being down for a few hours, for reasons that can be completely unrelated to anything I did. My salary is not in excess of $500,000, and no one would mourn my departure. Jealousy is an unattractive characteristic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belmontmom09@yahoo.com 1 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I'm not mourning his departure. I thought he should of been gone a long time ago. If he resigned or was relieved of his duties, he's still going to get paid. The university handled the situation as they saw fit. We as fans need to respect their decisions. It's time to move on & find a good AD who will recruit good players on & off the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAG 34,002 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, belmontmom09@yahoo.com said: I'm not mourning his departure. I thought he should of been gone a long time ago. If he resigned or was relieved of his duties, he's still going to get paid. The university handled the situation as they saw fit. We as fans need to respect their decisions. It's time to move on & find a good AD who will recruit good players on & off the field. That is the coaches job . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanTiger 20,506 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 11 minutes ago, AU64 said: Jealousy is an unattractive characteristic. You misspelled "disgust." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strychnine 1,803 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, AU64 said: Jealousy is an unattractive characteristic. All I said was that I have little sympathy, and qualified it with a reason why. Jealousy is your own interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR 2,446 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Has anyone linked Scarbinsky's article on JJ? Tried but I'm computer challenged. Some very eye opening info that a few on here will not like to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnacle 9,064 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, CR said: Has anyone linked Scarbinsky's article on JJ? Tried but I'm computer challenged. Some very eye opening info that a few on here will not like to read. http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2017/11/jay_jacobs_departure_as_auburn.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR 2,446 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Barnacle said: http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2017/11/jay_jacobs_departure_as_auburn.html Thanks Barnicle. I know Scarbinsky isn't loved here but his info is usually very solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,837 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 38 minutes ago, Strychnine said: I have little sympathy. All it takes for me to lose my job is a database being down for a few hours, for reasons that can be completely unrelated to anything I did. My salary is not in excess of $500,000, and no one would mourn my departure. rest assured. Jay, Angie or their family have no need for your sympathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr82be 14,452 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, CR said: Has anyone linked Scarbinsky's article on JJ? Tried but I'm computer challenged. Some very eye opening info that a few on here will not like to read. Search Here is the story without the link so those who wish to read it do not have to click on the link. AUBURN FOOTBALL Jay Jacobs' departure as Auburn AD is long overdue Updated 8:15 PM;Posted Today 4:11 PM Cole Cubelic and Kevin Scarbinsky discuss AD Jay Jacobs' legacy at Auburn 76 450shares By Kevin Scarbinsky kscarbinsky@al.com One of the most eagerly anticipated days in the recent history of Auburn Athletics finally came to pass Friday. The long reign of Jay Jacobs as athletics director has been given an expiration date. Based on the public and private feelings of so many people who care about the university, as well as many neutral observers, it's long overdue. Jacobs' released a statement couching the decision as his own, saying, "I have prayerfully decided the time has come for me to step aside" no later than June 1 of next year, "sooner if my successor is in place." Much sooner is the plan preferred by insiders, but in truth, Jacobs' didn't arrive at this decision voluntarily. Jay Jacobs stepping down as Auburn athletic director The misguided hires that looked good on the front end but eventually blew up in his face and the internal scandals gone public across multiple sports became too much for the AD with the second-longest tenure in the SEC to weather any longer. A little more than a month ago, a handful of power brokers decided enough is enough and communicated that message to new President Steven Leath. ADVERTISING It took them long enough. How will Jacobs the athletics director be remembered? As the smiling, backslapping, down-home, all-about-the-family former football walk-on who wore his faith on his sleeve? Or as a scheming, backstabbing, keep-it-down-home, all-about-himself manipulator whose public professions of faith masked his ability to throw people under the bus to consolidate his own power? There's a third option that may come closest to the truth, that Jacobs morphed from one extreme toward the other, from a well-meaning puppet installed in that position because he could be controlled to a mean-spirited wannabe puppet master who became too enamored of his own perceived power. A few weeks ago, according to someone familiar with the details, Jacobs showed up at the Birmingham office of a major Auburn donor unannounced. His message: I'm not going anywhere, brother. This despite the mountain of evidence that it was past time for him to step down for the good of the school, that a small group of decision-makers already had reached that conclusion and was trying to work out the details. It was more evidence that, as multiple sources described, at some point during his long tenure Jacobs changed and not for the better. Instead of being all about how to protect, defend and promote Auburn, his mission and his charge to his subordinates shifted. It became all about how to promote, protect and defend Jay Jacobs. A look back at Jay Jacobs' tenure as Auburn's AD The environment inside the athletics department had grown toxic. Current employees were telling former colleagues they didn't know whom to trust anymore and the supposed core values of "always tell the truth" and "if you see something, say something" didn't always apply. One key example of how the public portrait of the AD didn't match the private persona was the relationship between Jacobs and the last football coach he hired, Gus Malzahn. Perceived as allies, their relationship had deteriorated over time. ADVERTISING Jacobs made his displeasure with Malzahn known at a senior staff meeting after Auburn's dispiriting 2016 loss to Georgia. The AD ranted about the coaching staff's incompetence in that game and, in his eyes, its inability to grasp the importance of the Georgia rivalry. People in the room wondered. Why is he telling us? Shouldn't he be talking to the head coach? Those were good questions with a simple answer. The athletics director and the head coach were no longer speaking to each other much about anything. Auburn leadership moves toward ending AD Jay Jacobs' tenure One relatively new employee, who'd worked at other major programs, discovered that working for Auburn Athletics was like stepping into a time machine and setting the destination for the 1980s. The place resembled a mom-and-pop operation that never changed its old-fashioned way of doing things despite watching annual revenues climb north of $100 million. It was hard to get a specific answer to a specific question in a timely fashion. There were people in the department whose specific function was hard for anyone to identify. No one in the department, from the AD on down, seemed interested in asking the new employee how things worked at other schools where he'd been employed. Then came the bigger question that troubled some new and old employees alike. Were they supposed to be loyal to Auburn or to Jacobs? That's no longer a dilemma. Auburn's decision-makers now have arrived at a crossroads. Are they going to hire another familiar name who won't change the fundamental way Auburn Athletics operates? Or are they going to use the same wisdom Alabama did when it chose Greg Byrne to follow Bill Battle - hire a proven professional administrator even if he doesn't have family ties? By making it official that it's moving on from Jacobs, Auburn has resolved one major issue. It has many more left to address. 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AUBURN FOOTBALL Jay Jacobs' departure as Auburn AD is long overdue Updated 8:15 PM;Posted Today 4:11 PM Cole Cubelic and Kevin Scarbinsky discuss AD Jay Jacobs' legacy at Auburn 76 450shares By Kevin Scarbinsky kscarbinsky@al.com One of the most eagerly anticipated days in the recent history of Auburn Athletics finally came to pass Friday. The long reign of Jay Jacobs as athletics director has been given an expiration date. Based on the public and private feelings of so many people who care about the university, as well as many neutral observers, it's long overdue. Jacobs' released a statement couching the decision as his own, saying, "I have prayerfully decided the time has come for me to step aside" no later than June 1 of next year, "sooner if my successor is in place." Much sooner is the plan preferred by insiders, but in truth, Jacobs' didn't arrive at this decision voluntarily. Jay Jacobs stepping down as Auburn athletic director The misguided hires that looked good on the front end but eventually blew up in his face and the internal scandals gone public across multiple sports became too much for the AD with the second-longest tenure in the SEC to weather any longer. A little more than a month ago, a handful of power brokers decided enough is enough and communicated that message to new President Steven Leath. ADVERTISING It took them long enough. How will Jacobs the athletics director be remembered? As the smiling, backslapping, down-home, all-about-the-family former football walk-on who wore his faith on his sleeve? Or as a scheming, backstabbing, keep-it-down-home, all-about-himself manipulator whose public professions of faith masked his ability to throw people under the bus to consolidate his own power? There's a third option that may come closest to the truth, that Jacobs morphed from one extreme toward the other, from a well-meaning puppet installed in that position because he could be controlled to a mean-spirited wannabe puppet master who became too enamored of his own perceived power. A few weeks ago, according to someone familiar with the details, Jacobs showed up at the Birmingham office of a major Auburn donor unannounced. His message: I'm not going anywhere, brother. This despite the mountain of evidence that it was past time for him to step down for the good of the school, that a small group of decision-makers already had reached that conclusion and was trying to work out the details. It was more evidence that, as multiple sources described, at some point during his long tenure Jacobs changed and not for the better. Instead of being all about how to protect, defend and promote Auburn, his mission and his charge to his subordinates shifted. It became all about how to promote, protect and defend Jay Jacobs. A look back at Jay Jacobs' tenure as Auburn's AD The environment inside the athletics department had grown toxic. Current employees were telling former colleagues they didn't know whom to trust anymore and the supposed core values of "always tell the truth" and "if you see something, say something" didn't always apply. One key example of how the public portrait of the AD didn't match the private persona was the relationship between Jacobs and the last football coach he hired, Gus Malzahn. Perceived as allies, their relationship had deteriorated over time. ADVERTISING Jacobs made his displeasure with Malzahn known at a senior staff meeting after Auburn's dispiriting 2016 loss to Georgia. The AD ranted about the coaching staff's incompetence in that game and, in his eyes, its inability to grasp the importance of the Georgia rivalry. People in the room wondered. Why is he telling us? Shouldn't he be talking to the head coach? Those were good questions with a simple answer. The athletics director and the head coach were no longer speaking to each other much about anything. Auburn leadership moves toward ending AD Jay Jacobs' tenure One relatively new employee, who'd worked at other major programs, discovered that working for Auburn Athletics was like stepping into a time machine and setting the destination for the 1980s. The place resembled a mom-and-pop operation that never changed its old-fashioned way of doing things despite watching annual revenues climb north of $100 million. It was hard to get a specific answer to a specific question in a timely fashion. There were people in the department whose specific function was hard for anyone to identify. No one in the department, from the AD on down, seemed interested in asking the new employee how things worked at other schools where he'd been employed. Then came the bigger question that troubled some new and old employees alike. Were they supposed to be loyal to Auburn or to Jacobs? That's no longer a dilemma. Auburn's decision-makers now have arrived at a crossroads. Are they going to hire another familiar name who won't change the fundamental way Auburn Athletics operates? Or are they going to use the same wisdom Alabama did when it chose Greg Byrne to follow Bill Battle - hire a proven professional administrator even if he doesn't have family ties? By making it official that it's moving on from Jacobs, Auburn has resolved one major issue. It has many more left to address.
Strychnine 1,803 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Just now, SaltyTiger said: rest assured. Jay, Angie or their family no need for your sympathy I have little doubt about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR 2,446 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 5 hours ago, ellitor said: I hate to break it to you but regardless if JJ were AD or not Gus is safe for now as long as he gets 1 of the last 3 conference games & isn't blown out in the losses. So Gus could go 0 and 8 vs 2 biggest rivals over 4 years and still keep his job if they're not blowouts? Am I reading that correctly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,837 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Strychnine said: I have little doubt about that. glad you understand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strychnine 1,803 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 1 minute ago, SaltyTiger said: glad you understand I doubt that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PowerOfDixieland 3,226 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 30 minutes ago, CR said: Has anyone linked Scarbinsky's article on JJ? Tried but I'm computer challenged. Some very eye opening info that a few on here will not like to read. Scarbinsky is only scratching the surface. The guy should be facing criminal charges...fraud, racketeering, theft by deception, you name it he's done it. All with a seemingly sincere "God Bless". Folks that guy has absolutely destroyed the Auburn athletic department and there are those who seem to want to shed a tear over today's announcement, and it makes me want to puke. He has been AU enemy number one for about a dozen years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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