Son of A Tiger 561 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 I'm a Navy guy and I'm sure there is a reason but I don't understand why the Navy waited until today to say they knew a few days ago the Ocean Gate sub had failed. I recognize it's a secret capability but it isn't any more. What difference does a few days make when all the drama and rescue efforts/assets could have been avoided. https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-navy-detected-titan-sub-implosion-top-secret-acoustic-system-day-vessel-went-missing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUDub 11,158 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 27 minutes ago, Son of A Tiger said: I'm a Navy guy and I'm sure there is a reason but I don't understand why the Navy waited until today to say they knew a few days ago the Ocean Gate sub had failed. I recognize it's a secret capability but it isn't any more. What difference does a few days make when all the drama and rescue efforts/assets could have been avoided. https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-navy-detected-titan-sub-implosion-top-secret-acoustic-system-day-vessel-went-missing That's not SOP for SAR. You hope for the best. Even if you pick up a “crushing” sound in roughly the right location, that doesn’t mean you just call off the search and say they’re dead. Could have been plenty of other stuff like ships in the area, anomalies, sensor malfunctions. Again, hope for the best. It's useful, but it’s just not enough to stop the effort until they’re confirmed lost or too much time has passed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftfield 2,617 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Son of A Tiger said: I'm a Navy guy and I'm sure there is a reason but I don't understand why the Navy waited until today to say they knew a few days ago the Ocean Gate sub had failed. I recognize it's a secret capability but it isn't any more. What difference does a few days make when all the drama and rescue efforts/assets could have been avoided. https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-navy-detected-titan-sub-implosion-top-secret-acoustic-system-day-vessel-went-missing There was no way to immediately verify that the sound came from the sub. Certainly it was a valuable data point, but as Dub said, search until you know for sure. As for keeping it quiet - announcing to the world that you think they're probably dead would not be a great decision. It would be irresponsible, and cruel to the friends/families (who would still have hope), particularly if you end up being wrong. It would also cause much of the public to criticize the time, effort, and money spent to try rescue them, as you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKW 86 7,431 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 depending on thermal layers the Navy may or may not have heard much. I guarantee that the signature of the event was known almost immediately if they heard it. With Sossuss, they likely heard it. Only thermal layers stood in the way. We can clearly hear biologics underwater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of A Tiger 561 Posted June 23, 2023 Author Share Posted June 23, 2023 It turns out that the Navy did notify the Coast Guard of their findings. That's good. and I agree there was no point in making it public at that time since they decided to continue the search and rescue operation. My only question now is why did the Navy elect to expose a secret capability after it was over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of A Tiger 561 Posted June 23, 2023 Author Share Posted June 23, 2023 Leave it Obama to make a racial thing out of it. Disgusting. Obama calls out ‘obscene inequality’ in news coverage of OceanGate sub tragedy and sinking of migrant ship | Fox News 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftfield 2,617 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 32 minutes ago, Son of A Tiger said: Leave it Obama to make a racial thing out of it. Disgusting. Obama calls out ‘obscene inequality’ in news coverage of OceanGate sub tragedy and sinking of migrant ship | Fox News Just read it. Where did he mention race? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShocksMyBrain 9,368 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Mental deficients at work are blaming Biden. Because why the **** not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUDub 11,158 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Leftfield said: Just read it. Where did he mention race? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,393 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, Son of A Tiger said: Leave it Obama to make a racial thing out of it. Disgusting. Obama calls out ‘obscene inequality’ in news coverage of OceanGate sub tragedy and sinking of migrant ship | Fox News He's right. Edited June 24, 2023 by homersapien 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,393 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 17 hours ago, Leftfield said: Just read it. Where did he mention race? Well, Obama's black! And he said it. (Gotta love the irony though.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPTiger 5,167 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 20 hours ago, Son of A Tiger said: Leave it Obama to make a racial thing out of it. Disgusting. Obama calls out ‘obscene inequality’ in news coverage of OceanGate sub tragedy and sinking of migrant ship | Fox News I agree with him that the media is a threat to democracy but not for the reason he mentions. It is rich that Barack is speaking out about inequality while traveling in Greece. Lastly, maybe the disparity in media coverage is because ships sink much more frequently than subs implode and folks have a natural curiosity about events that happen literally once every 30-50 years. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUApostle 7,651 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Distraction 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexava 6,973 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 I’m not sure many people would have believed it or relied on it enough to call off the search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icanthearyou 4,463 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 2 hours ago, AUDevil said: Distraction From what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoAU 1,600 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Perhaps it was just an interesting story? It was far from the norm and a mystery at the time. Not really anything nefarious. MH370 was all over the news for weeks and was quite ethnically diverse - also a mystery. Don't think this was anything but that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuCivilEng1 11,012 Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 On 6/23/2023 at 5:45 PM, Son of A Tiger said: Leave it Obama to make a racial thing out of it. Disgusting. Obama calls out ‘obscene inequality’ in news coverage of OceanGate sub tragedy and sinking of migrant ship | Fox News HA! Oh look! Son of A Grand Wizard is here, everyone. You're one to talk, Mr. "This report isn't credible because a foreigner wrote it". 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuCivilEng1 11,012 Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 On 6/25/2023 at 11:34 AM, AUDevil said: Distraction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUApostle 7,651 Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 2 hours ago, AuCivilEng1 said: This gif is losing its influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuCivilEng1 11,012 Posted June 26, 2023 Share Posted June 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, AUDevil said: This gif is losing its influence. Hilarious show. I’ll use this gif until the day I die. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubiefifty 16,823 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 On 6/23/2023 at 10:04 AM, Son of A Tiger said: It turns out that the Navy did notify the Coast Guard of their findings. That's good. and I agree there was no point in making it public at that time since they decided to continue the search and rescue operation. My only question now is why did the Navy elect to expose a secret capability after it was over. hey man as an aside i worked for the chief of naval operations. he had a personal briefing room and he came in most times about once a week or more often if something was going on. no kidding. we were right around the corner from hi personal office. but of course we never spoke. he might nod his head but i thought you might find that cool. op64 ncsc.pentagon. i was a high school drop out too. i did get my ged and almost two years of community college. anyway we both are squids huh? grins 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aubiefifty 16,823 Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 On 6/23/2023 at 6:43 PM, AUDub said: ok i gots to know so i am asking. what is the top speed on your corndog? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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