Auburn Mediocrity

[Mikey 16,686]

9 hours ago, AURex said:

Problem is, although gymnastics might be 3rd in NIL overall, it sure is not getting much NIL at Auburn compared to schools like LSU, Utah. Florida and Oklahoma. In comparison, Auburn girls are getting naught.

Track and Field -- nuthin.
Swimming & Diving - nuthin
WBB - nuthin

How do you know what each sport gets at the various schools? If there's a list somewhere I'd like to look at it.

[peashooter 22]

Who cares about those sports. Football is what is important. The rest just suck money that could be used for football. 

[nthemix 89]

Haven’t watched much of the draft today … have we even had a player picked so far ?

[TeamZero77 1,785]

45 minutes ago, nthemix said:

Haven’t watched much of the draft today … have we even had a player picked so far ?

This was the first time in 21 years that Auburn didn't have a player selected in the first 4 rounds of the NFL Draft. 😥 

Nehemiah Pritchett is the only player we've had selected so far. He went in the 5th round today. We've got 5 total players that are projected to be drafted and they're all on the defensive side of the ball.

Somebody mentioned this recently but our last 3 head coaches have all been "offensive guru's" but we always struggle on the offensive side of the ball and our players that get drafted seem to mostly be defensive and special teams players. 

Weird huh?

[Muscle Shoals Tiger 144]

Last of the Gus era and Harsin catastrophe has made Auburn insignificant the last three drafts and maybe next year. 

Edited April 27 by Muscle Shoals Tiger

[autigeremt 6,660]

I’m only looking forward. Pining over Garsin era failure is so yesterday. Like truly….yesterday. 

[autigeremt 6,660]

4 hours ago, peashooter said:

Who cares about those sports. Football is what is important. The rest just suck money that could be used for football. 

Some of us Auburn folk have a different view (thank God). 

[Swamp Eagle 5,144]

On 4/5/2024 at 7:26 AM, AuCivilEng1 said:

What exactly is wrong with an alumni/fan being disappointed that the University they support both emotionally and financially is stuck in a rut of mediocrity?

Hell, man, the official Auburn sports site won’t even post losses on the front page, you have to dig to find a score, though you know by the absence it’s a loss. 
 

When the university caters to supporters who can only handle the good news…that’s a problem. Whoever is making those decisions needs a knot jerked in their…

Edited April 27 by Swamp Eagle

[AURex 2,025]

6 hours ago, Mikey said:

How do you know what each sport gets at the various schools? If there's a list somewhere I'd like to look at it.

NIL for college and Olympic gymnasts here --

https://www.on3.com/nil/rankings/player/college/gymnastics/

 

[aubaseball 2,647]

1 hour ago, AURex said:

NIL for college and Olympic gymnasts here --

https://www.on3.com/nil/rankings/player/college/gymnastics/

 

I stopped looking after scrolling through about three pages of undisclosed.   That was very informative.   And the first girl, she is on every commercial for whatever clothesline that she is promoting.   Don’t even think she is the best gymnasts on their team.  Point being, she is attractive and happens to be a gymnast.   
 

just curious, if you’re so hung up on Auburn being the best in every sport that they participate in, are you donating anything substantial to OTV? 

[CameronCrazy 1,075]

1 hour ago, aubaseball said:

I stopped looking after scrolling through about three pages of undisclosed.   That was very informative.   And the first girl, she is on every commercial for whatever clothesline that she is promoting.   Don’t even think she is the best gymnasts on their team.  Point being, she is attractive and happens to be a gymnast.   
 

just curious, if you’re so hung up on Auburn being the best in every sport that they participate in, are you donating anything substantial to OTV? 

Some of us aren’t in a position to donate anything “significant”. But I promise you that if I was… you better believe I would be pouring my money into OTV! And I would expect any hardcore Auburn fan to do the same. 

And that’s what I don’t understand. Your money goes further now more than ever! We are supposedly funded by 4-5 different billionaires (according to WDE). It’s now LEGAL to pay for players. If we truly have the money, we should be competitive in EVERY sport. 

There are sports that we’ve never been truly competitive in, but we should have an opportunity to change that now. I don’t expect the NIL “Wild West” to last forever…. But while it’s here, we should be getting the talent we need in EVERY sport. 

[Swamp Eagle 5,144]

52 minutes ago, CameronCrazy said:

Some of us aren’t in a position to donate anything “significant”. But I promise you that if I was… you better believe I would be pouring my money into OTV! And I would expect any hardcore Auburn fan to do the same. 

And that’s what I don’t understand. Your money goes further now more than ever! We are supposedly funded by 4-5 different billionaires (according to WDE). It’s now LEGAL to pay for players. If we truly have the money, we should be competitive in EVERY sport. 

There are sports that we’ve never been truly competitive in, but we should have an opportunity to change that now. I don’t expect the NIL “Wild West” to last forever…. But while it’s here, we should be getting the talent we need in EVERY sport. 

This is where I am: I don't have to change just because the college landscape did. I'll bitch and moan about what I want to, whether I contribute or not. It won't make an ounce of difference,just like it never has, so I'm good...😎

Edited April 28 by Swamp Eagle

[aubaseball 2,647]

39 minutes ago, CameronCrazy said:

Some of us aren’t in a position to donate anything “significant”. But I promise you that if I was… you better believe I would be pouring my money into OTV! And I would expect any hardcore Auburn fan to do the same

I don’t know what you mean by hardcore fan.    Season ticket holder? Donator to the University?  Cheer for Auburn? Go to occasional games?   
I am a fan of Auburn, but I don’t believe that the “hardcore “ fan should be giving hard earned money to entice a player to come play for Auburn.    Just my opinion.  
The money for this “NIL” should be coming from some type of revenue sharing model.   

[JuscAUse! 1,442]

19 minutes ago, Swamp Eagle said:

This is where I am: I don't have to change just because the college landscape did. I'll bitch and moan about what I want to, whether I contribute or not. It won't make an ounce of difference,just like it never has, so I'm good...😎

The difference between you and others is that you know that it doesn't make a difference. 😄 Some "others" think that AU fans that try and think positively, at least before the *"&$#'"& start of the first game , are the REASON that AU is not better. In.... pick a sport. 

As the guys in the movie say,   "it just doesn't matter.….."

And I would remind all those like me that are not giving every last dime to NIL , that the money men are paying big money to coaches that are not coaching. At least for AU. And it's easy to spend money that's not yours. 

 

[TripleDegreeTiger 63]

2 hours ago, aubaseball said:

I stopped looking after scrolling through about three pages of undisclosed.   That was very informative.   And the first girl, she is on every commercial for whatever clothesline that she is promoting.   Don’t even think she is the best gymnasts on their team.  Point being, she is attractive and happens to be a gymnast.   
 

just curious, if you’re so hung up on Auburn being the best in every sport that they participate in, are you donating anything substantial to OTV? 

Here is how that list is generated and why you see undisclosed.

https://www.on3.com/nil/news/about-on3-nil-valuation-per-post-value/

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For each athlete, the On3 NIL Valuation algorithm takes into account four primary factors: Roster Value Performance, Influence, Exposure and Deal Data to create their individual Roster Value and NIL, which together combine to create the athlete’s On3 NIL Valuation.

• Performance: Performance is determined by how the athlete performs on the field. Big games against key opponents, becoming nationally ranked and winning national awards will have the most impact on an athlete’s valuation. Participation in college sports is weighted heavier in most cases than those that participate at the high school level.

• Influence: Influence is determined by the athlete’s own social media authority. Social media followers, reach and engagement are the primary factors that determine influence. 

• Exposure: Exposure is determined by several factors including whether the athlete is in high school or college, which school the athlete attends and their position. Athletes that attend universities with a larger fan base and media attention are likely to see a positive impact on valuation. Athletes who play a position with higher visibility (ie. quarterback vs. center) are likely to see a higher valuation.
• Deal Data: On3 collects and verifies athlete deal data from numerous sources, including athletes, coaches, collectives, agents, and player representatives as the foundation of Roster Value.

Check out number of LSU and Florida gymnast that have over 100k in followers and their Valuation rankings vs those of Auburn's.

[TigerOne 1,151]

2 hours ago, CameronCrazy said:

Some of us aren’t in a position to donate anything “significant”. But I promise you that if I was… you better believe I would be pouring my money into OTV! And I would expect any hardcore Auburn fan to do the same. 

And that’s what I don’t understand. Your money goes further now more than ever! We are supposedly funded by 4-5 different billionaires (according to WDE). It’s now LEGAL to pay for players. If we truly have the money, we should be competitive in EVERY sport. 

There are sports that we’ve never been truly competitive in, but we should have an opportunity to change that now. I don’t expect the NIL “Wild West” to last forever…. But while it’s here, we should be getting the talent we need in EVERY sport. 

What a sucker. You are the perfect type that they are looking for. Tie your Auburn “loyalty “ to how much money you can throw at it. Do you think any players have team loyalty or dedication? What about the purpose of the school..education? Freeze is right about one thing , the me first disease is rampant now in college sports.

oh by the way send in your monthly 500 dollar check otherwise you are not a real fan.

better go buy a lottery ticket, it’s a better investment.

[TigerOne 1,151]

1 hour ago, TripleDegreeTiger said:

Here is how that list is generated and why you see undisclosed.

https://www.on3.com/nil/news/about-on3-nil-valuation-per-post-value/

Check out number of LSU and Florida gymnast that have over 100k in followers and their Valuation rankings vs those of Auburn's.

In reality it’s which ones have porn star potential.

[Swamp Eagle 5,144]

1 hour ago, JuscAUse! said:

The difference between you and others is that you know that it doesn't make a difference. 😄 Some "others" think that AU fans that try and think positively, at least before the *"&$#'"& start of the first game , are the REASON that AU is not better. In.... pick a sport. 

As the guys in the movie say,   "it just doesn't matter.….."

And I would remind all those like me that are not giving every last dime to NIL , that the money men are paying big money to coaches that are not coaching. At least for AU. And it's easy to spend money that's not yours. 

 

And, wait for it....how true of a fan you are will be directly proportional to whether you Go-Fund-Me college athletes. 

Won't bother me one iota.  I refuse to contribute to the ri-FREAKING-diculous notion of paying towards NIL. It's their responsibility to market themselves. Not mine.

[AURex 2,025]

5 hours ago, aubaseball said:

I stopped looking after scrolling through about three pages of undisclosed.   That was very informative.   And the first girl, she is on every commercial for whatever clothesline that she is promoting.   Don’t even think she is the best gymnasts on their team.  Point being, she is attractive and happens to be a gymnast.   
 

just curious, if you’re so hung up on Auburn being the best in every sport that they participate in, are you donating anything substantial to OTV? 

I'm not "HUNG UP" on Auburn being "THE BEST" in every sport. I am disappointed that, with all the mega-dollars flowing into Auburn athletic programs, most sports are mediocre at best.

As for gymnastics, sorry you were unable to process the data. But reality is, based on those numbers, LSU, Florida, Utah and Oklahoma gymnasts receive notable amounts of NIL (as do Olympic gymnasts like Suni Lee who are not currently on a university team).

In that long list, only one Auburn gymnast was included, whereas most all of the gymnasts on the top university teams receive NIL support. Did you not see the list? Or did you just choose to mind-block what you did not want to see?

Sorry if it was too complicated for you to interpret. You asked for evidence, I provided it, you couldn't figure it out.

 

 

 

 

Edited April 28 by AURex

[TripleDegreeTiger 63]

2 hours ago, TigerOne said:

In reality it’s which ones have porn star potential.

These girls are going out and getting followers. They are using these followers to build relationships/get noticed and receive deals from Doordash, HR Block, Cheetos, Levi's, Amazon and the list goes on. Some have their own products and businesses that they have started. This is how gymnast got paid long before NIL(same for track and field).

Olivia Dunn started her own NIL fund for LSU women's athletes.

They are not sitting around and waiting on their universities NIL collective to get them deals. Probably why they are national champions and Olympic hopefuls/team, members.

And yes, in American marketing sex sells.

[aucom96 1,627]

12 hours ago, CameronCrazy said:

Some of us aren’t in a position to donate anything “significant”. But I promise you that if I was… you better believe I would be pouring my money into OTV! And I would expect any hardcore Auburn fan to do the same. 

And that’s what I don’t understand. Your money goes further now more than ever! We are supposedly funded by 4-5 different billionaires (according to WDE). It’s now LEGAL to pay for players. If we truly have the money, we should be competitive in EVERY sport. 

There are sports that we’ve never been truly competitive in, but we should have an opportunity to change that now. I don’t expect the NIL “Wild West” to last forever…. But while it’s here, we should be getting the talent we need in EVERY sport. 

Double edge to that. 

Those with the biggest money will have the best results. That isn't going to be fan collectives. That's Jimmy Rane or Harbert. And if our success is now tied primarily to booster money, I don't think that's going to work out well for us. It's not going to work out well for a lot of schools who are used to more success in their sports programs. 

NIL is garbage. The portal rules are garbage. Both will eventually kill the golden goose both for fans and the players. The boosters will still be rich. 

[jluvah 668]

21 hours ago, TeamZero77 said:

This was the first time in 21 years that Auburn didn't have a player selected in the first 4 rounds of the NFL Draft. 😥 

Nehemiah Pritchett is the only player we've had selected so far. He went in the 5th round today. We've got 5 total players that are projected to be drafted and they're all on the defensive side of the ball.

Somebody mentioned this recently but our last 3 head coaches have all been "offensive guru's" but we always struggle on the offensive side of the ball and our players that get drafted seem to mostly be defensive and special teams players. 

Weird huh?

I don’t know whether to laugh or cry about this. 

[SCTiger2011 1,282]

Hey, Men's Golf just won a team and individual SEC Championship and is the number 1 team in the nation.  If your opinion of Auburn sports mediocrity is truly rooted in wanting to see all sports succeed and not just frustration that the football team sucks, this should be a good morning for you.  

If your immediate reaction is "who cares, it's only golf," please refer to paragraph one to further instill the fact you're just upset football sucks and use those frustrations to bash the other sports programs as a collective.  Also, updates for only fans of the Big 3 sports (this isn't necessarily a jab, there are so many athletics teams and we all have our preferences), our men's and women's tennis teams both enter their NCAA tournaments as Top 25 teams.  Men 24th. Women 17th.

Happy Sunday!

[WarTiger 3,915]

On 4/27/2024 at 9:32 AM, peashooter said:

Who cares about those sports. Football is what is important. The rest just suck money that could be used for football. 

I do. Im certain there are tons of others here that care as well.    I, as a fan of Auburn, want them to be successful in EVERY SPORT.  I may not watch every sport or game but I damn sure want Auburn to be successful in those sports.   Most of us arent just Auburn football fans, we are Auburn SPORTS ( as in all sports) fans. Sorry (not really) if that bothers you.

[JerryAU 1,681]

On 4/27/2024 at 2:02 PM, Swamp Eagle said:

Hell, man, the official Auburn sports site won’t even post losses on the front page, you have to dig to find a score, though you know by the absence it’s a loss. 
 

When the university caters to supporters who can only handle the good news…that’s a problem. Whoever is making those decisions needs a knot jerked in their…

AMEN!

The Administration is scared to shine light on anything negative, like they choose to shield the Family from just how crappy some of the athletic teams have become.  

On 4/27/2024 at 6:37 PM, CameronCrazy said:

Some of us aren’t in a position to donate anything “significant”. But I promise you that if I was… you better believe I would be pouring my money into OTV! And I would expect any hardcore Auburn fan to do the same. 

And that’s what I don’t understand. Your money goes further now more than ever! We are supposedly funded by 4-5 different billionaires (according to WDE). It’s now LEGAL to pay for players. If we truly have the money, we should be competitive in EVERY sport. 

There are sports that we’ve never been truly competitive in, but we should have an opportunity to change that now. I don’t expect the NIL “Wild West” to last forever…. But while it’s here, we should be getting the talent we need in EVERY sport. 

My response to your above post is in no way negatively directed at you Cameron. 

I informed my kids early on that I would pay 100% of their education but I would NOT subsidize stupidity.  I feel exactly the same way about Auburn Athletics. 

We've all watched the Auburn Administration make one stupid decision after another and they've systematically wasted well over $100million in just 3 yrs buying out football staffers year after year after year.  Firing head coaches, coordinators, position coaches, support staff while we alum and fans all watched the 3-peat losing seasons circle the drain.   Auburn Athletics are not good stewards of the finances and the BOT have been enablers to the administrators who have made one poor choice after another.    

We as a family, choose to financially support AU Academics and it will stay that way.