SaltyTiger 7,908 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 2 hours ago, TexasTiger said: Not really. It’s a complex problem. You stay at the surface. I understand it is complex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,908 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 51 minutes ago, homersapien said: Netanyahu is squandering all of the good will and empathy Israel inherited from the Holocaust. Biden understands that. Guess you would say he is not squandering anything with Christians? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,513 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 Just now, SaltyTiger said: Guess you would say he is not squandering anything with Christians? Oh hell no. They think he's covered by the covenant with God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,908 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 2 hours ago, homersapien said: Oh hell no. They think he's covered by the covenant with God. Most Christians just pray for peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 13,136 Posted May 12 Author Share Posted May 12 30 minutes ago, SaltyTiger said: Most Christians just pray for peace. That’s what the real ones do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,908 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 17 minutes ago, TexasTiger said: That’s what the real ones do. I agree with you Tex. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnatl1 5,253 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 1 hour ago, SaltyTiger said: I agree with you Tex. Blessed are the peacemakers. We don’t appreciate that sentiment enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftfield 2,715 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 6 hours ago, I_M4_AU said: It’s the smart bombs that will be missed if the civilian casualties are to be kept to a minimum. Biden is stopping the shipment of 2,000 pound bombs. With a place as densely packed as Rafah, this is the equation that shows how much difference a "smart" bomb would make over a regular bomb: Joules of energy/Square meter of area......or J(ack)/S(**t) 6 hours ago, I_M4_AU said: Hamas numbers are not accurate, but go ahead spread that propaganda. https://time.com/6909636/gaza-death-toll/ https://www.aljazeera.com/news/longform/2023/10/9/israel-hamas-war-in-maps-and-charts-live-tracker https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-gaza-war-statistics-95a6407fac94e9d589be234708cd5005 https://www.usatoday.com/story/graphics/2024/04/05/israel-war-gaza-strip-human-toll-visualized/73130709007/ https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/29/world/middleeast/gaza-death-toll-war.html https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/32552-palestinians-killed-gaza-since-oct-7-health-ministry-says-2024-03-28/ I'm sure they're all lying, though. 7 hours ago, I_M4_AU said: Yes you can, but we are in the middle of it and Biden’s decisions are counter productive to long term peace. Good point...Netanyahu is clearly concerned about peace. Guy might as well be a dove. 7 hours ago, I_M4_AU said: This is such BS. Hamas teaches hate in their schools, loosing this war and eliminating Hamas maybe a start to a better future for Gazans. Not denying that Hamas is horrible. Is wiping out those children justified? Do you think flattening the place they live is going to change their minds, or reinforce that Israel is the enemy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasTiger 13,136 Posted May 12 Author Share Posted May 12 46 minutes ago, Leftfield said: Not denying that Hamas is horrible. Is wiping out those children justified? Do you think flattening the place they live is going to change their minds, or reinforce that Israel is the enemy? Israel is creating generations of folks committed to revenge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,513 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 15 hours ago, SaltyTiger said: Most Christians just pray for peace. You mean a cease fire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_M4_AU 8,056 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 There was a cease fire in place on Oct 7th of last year and peace was broken. True peace do not necessarily rely on a *cease fire*. You must not know too much about prayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,908 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 9 hours ago, homersapien said: You mean a cease fire? Whatever you care to think Brother Homer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersapien 11,513 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, SaltyTiger said: Whatever you care to think Brother Homer. Nice evasion. Why bother to respond? Edited May 13 by homersapien 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_M4_AU 8,056 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 On 5/11/2024 at 11:11 PM, Leftfield said: https://time.com/6909636/gaza-death-toll/ https://www.aljazeera.com/news/longform/2023/10/9/israel-hamas-war-in-maps-and-charts-live-tracker https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-gaza-war-statistics-95a6407fac94e9d589be234708cd5005 https://www.usatoday.com/story/graphics/2024/04/05/israel-war-gaza-strip-human-toll-visualized/73130709007/ https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/29/world/middleeast/gaza-death-toll-war.html https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/32552-palestinians-killed-gaza-since-oct-7-health-ministry-says-2024-03-28/ I'm sure they're all lying, though. Say it isn’t so, please: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftfield 2,715 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 9 hours ago, I_M4_AU said: Say it isn’t so, please: https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/13/middleeast/death-toll-gaza-fatalities-un-intl-latam/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_M4_AU 8,056 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 53 minutes ago, Leftfield said: https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/13/middleeast/death-toll-gaza-fatalities-un-intl-latam/index.html From your article: Two officials from the Palestinian Ministry of Health have told CNN that although the ministry keeps a separate death toll for identified and unidentified individuals, the total number of people killed remains unchanged. You and CNN will believe numbers from the Palestinian Ministry of Health? Why would anybody believe them about anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMWATS 114 Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 (edited) In answer to the question posted in the subject line... Yes. Evangelicals could very well be the last Christians among us. Edited May 13 by JMWATS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftfield 2,715 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) 4 hours ago, I_M4_AU said: From your article: Two officials from the Palestinian Ministry of Health have told CNN that although the ministry keeps a separate death toll for identified and unidentified individuals, the total number of people killed remains unchanged. You and CNN will believe numbers from the Palestinian Ministry of Health? Why would anybody believe them about anything? So why post that the numbers changed when you don't believe them to begin with? Oh, I've got it....when the numbers changed you could use it as proof that the Palestinians were originally lying, so that must have meant the numbers are right. Now the Fox News article has been shown to be crap, so you're back to not believing the numbers at all. The world of subjective reality is fun, isn't it? Edited May 14 by Leftfield 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,908 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 33 minutes ago, Leftfield said: So why post that the numbers changed when you don't believe them to begin with? Think you started the “numbers” conversation. What did you expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftfield 2,715 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 hour ago, SaltyTiger said: Think you started the “numbers” conversation. What did you expect? You....read the rest of my post, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyTiger 7,908 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 8 hours ago, Leftfield said: You....read the rest of my post, right? Probably, thread has jumped around a bit. Plenty to discuss concerning least Christian evangelicals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_M4_AU 8,056 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 11 hours ago, Leftfield said: So why post that the numbers changed when you don't believe them to begin with? Oh, I've got it....when the numbers changed you could use it as proof that the Palestinians were originally lying, so that must have meant the numbers are right. Now the Fox News article has been shown to be crap, so you're back to not believing the numbers at all. The world of subjective reality is fun, isn't it? The numbers changed because the UN, a trusted source, said they changed. Under pressure from Hamas they retracted the change. There is no organization allowed to question the Health Ministry and it is pure propaganda. Here is another gem from the article: The ministry does not distinguish between casualties among fighters and civilians. If you are not told the truth to begin with you are left with subjective reality. You choose your truth, I choose not to believe terrorists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leftfield 2,715 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 hour ago, I_M4_AU said: The numbers changed because the UN, a trusted source, said they changed. Under pressure from Hamas they retracted the change. There is no organization allowed to question the Health Ministry and it is pure propaganda. Here is another gem from the article: The ministry does not distinguish between casualties among fighters and civilians. If you are not told the truth to begin with you are left with subjective reality. You choose your truth, I choose not to believe terrorists. They didn't retract the change. The interpretation of the data was wrong. The "reduction" in the estimate of women and children killed was simply the number of those identified, and it was roughly half of the total that had been identified. The total estimated killed (identified vs unidentified) did not change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I_M4_AU 8,056 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 On 5/10/2024 at 5:32 PM, creed said: The US doesn’t have enough workers to increase production unless we allow lots of migrants. This means 54% of illegal immigration is a drain on our bottom line. How is that going to get us out of the mess we are in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creed 1,666 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, I_M4_AU said: This means 54% of illegal immigration is a drain on our bottom line. How is that going to get us out of the mess we are in? I believe the US is gearing up to increase manufacturing of products that have been produced in China. This will require the need for employees in that sector. The timing may be off for these immagrant workers, but the eventual need is on point. These employees will pay taxes and buy goods. This along with increased taxes and reduce federal spending will help drive down our deficit. What is your plan? Edited May 14 by creed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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